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I give up: I'd rather go backwards, than forwards (in Evolution)

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by Gottservant, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. Gottservant

    Gottservant God loves your words, may men love them also Supporter

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    Hi there,

    So I don't know whether to make this long or short, I just want to say that whatever Evolution is, I am not going to chase it. I just don't want to. I would rather be backwards and have faith; than go forwards and "evolve". It's not that I am not capable of intellectual denial of my desire to have faith, its just that "faith" to me, is everything: I cannot simply give up faith, for something that is poorly explained as "an imaginary past, with self-contradictory roots). I have tried, believe me I have tried.

    You say "just let a mutation, dictate what you adapt" that to me, makes no sense at all - it is a deception of half measures "you won't loose your stand, you will just begin not to make one" when that is the very thing that God asks us to do: make a stand. That's what it says in the gospels "be able to stand". There is comfort in that, actually, because I realize that fundamentally, no one who believes in Evolution, is able to make a stand themselves - I am not in competition with people, who excel at understanding the word; I am at rest on the foundation that I have understood what Jesus said, that what He said will stand, within me, even if I pass over, to the other side.

    So thanks for all the arguments, all the cheap shots - like that I don't understand something that is basically an unconcealed paradox - all the jokes that my attempts to understand Evolution have destroyed my sense of reasoning: I can cope with all that. I can cope with it because my Evolution is better than anything you could force on me, it is a failed Evolution, one that will never be forwards, until that time, when I strengthen it again in Heaven and do not have to come back, to explain myself, and why my Evolution is different to everyone else's. Not that I have tried to leave you with no explanation, but that the only answer to being able to continue to serve the Lord, is to do without the "progress" that Evolution offers (and nothing else, that it might be said Evolution fixed the problem).

    I am the Lion, that doesn't want it's teeth; I am the giraffe, that hangs its head in thirst; I am the monkey, that is dissatisfied with more bananas. I am all these things because I cannot be anything other than what I am: a human being, who no longer functions in the realm of reason, because Evolution has called it into doubt. All of nature is with me, in rejection of Evolution, because it cannot follow it in strength, that the Lord may bless. Jesus Himself, hangs His Head in shame, because the Devil is naked and trumpets Evolution in every direction, without any sense, in how it might take an honourable stance on the life of its constituent believers.

    It just gets easier from here: the more backward I stay, the less I have to think about Evolution; the less I have to think about Evolution, the more confident I will become, because I don't have to question it; the more confident I become, the more quiet I will be able to stay, having to use the concept of Evolution less, reducing my ambiguity, increasing the chance that I will just do what is normal for something God has created, as He has created me. In the end it will be unmistakeable, I will have made the backward backward, and my focus, the predator coming for my sense, to make me looseningly witless - that I may resist him, and still make the sense needed, to be at peace with God.

    It is not too late, to be backwards with me; to defend nature, from becoming a lawless mess.
     
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  2. Warden_of_the_Storm

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    You do not understand evolution.
     
  3. VirOptimus

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    To wander the mission is to become one with it.
    Fulfillment is a constant. Fulfillment requires exploration.
    You must take a stand against discontinuity.
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    We are in the midst of a heroic refining of self-actualization that will let us access the dreamtime itself. Our conversations with other travellers have led to an awakening of pseudo-dynamic consciousness. Reality has always been full of warriors whose souls are baptized in wellbeing.

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  4. Radagast

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    I see what you did there.

    By blossoming, we vibrate. Where there is suffering, inspiration cannot thrive. We are being called to explore the quantum soup itself as an interface between healing and energy. Lifeform, look within and strengthen yourself. Humankind has nothing to lose. You will soon be guided by a power deep within yourself — a power that is ethereal, dynamic.
     
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  5. Occams Barber

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    I am your Good Fairy
    I am here to grant you one wish
    Your wish is to go backwards in Evolution
    Shaboom!... ting! (sound of wand waving)
    Your wish is granted
    You are a slug
    My work here is done. :tutu:

    Good Fairy OB


     
  6. ruthiesea

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    Evolution is neither a force nor a mechanism. It causes no change nor does it provide direction. Evolution is a theory that meets the criteria of a valid scientific theory. It is an explanation of how observable phenomenon, life as we know it today, came about.

    The Theory of Evolution neither accepts nor rejects the existence of G-d.
     
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  7. eleos1954

    eleos1954 God is Love Supporter

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    Evolution distorts His biblical Word ... evolution theorists places man within the animal kingdom ... His Word says they (animals & man) were created on different days and are different creatures. Man was created in the image of God .... animals were not. They are very distinct from one another.

    Where is OBSERVED how the first cell came about? .... where is it OBSERVED how this cell "evolved" ... and somehow evolved into a male/female state? Was man able to OBSERVE over millions and billions of years? NO it's a theory and much of it was/is NOT in fact Observable.
     
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  8. Warden_of_the_Storm

    Warden_of_the_Storm Well-Known Member

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    You don't know what a theory means in scientific parlance, do you?
    HINT: It's not the same as when used by laymen.
     
  9. eleos1954

    eleos1954 God is Love Supporter

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    What I know is the scientific community calls it The Theory of Evolution and rightfully so .... when the scientific community changes it to The Fact of Evolution ... let me know.
     
  10. Warden_of_the_Storm

    Warden_of_the_Storm Well-Known Member

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    Again, you're just showing that you don't know what is meant when the word theory is used to describe a scientific concept.
    HINT: it doesn't mean what you think it means. Here's what theory means in science.
     
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  11. Speedwell

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    Why? There is already a fact of evolution. That's what the theory of evolution was created to explain. That's what a scientific theory is: a well-evidenced and tested explanation of facts.
     
  12. eleos1954

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    You don't know what I know and what I do not know ... and I don't have to provide you with any credentials.
     
  13. Warden_of_the_Storm

    Warden_of_the_Storm Well-Known Member

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    No, that is very true.
    But it is plainly clear that you didn't know what the term theory means when used in science.
     
  14. eleos1954

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    Just because I provide a simple answer ... doesn't mean I don't have knowledge about anything ... again .... when the scientific community changes it to the Fact of Evolution let me know. It's simple.
     
  15. Speedwell

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    There is already a fact of evolution. That's what the theory of evolution was created to explain. That's what a scientific theory is: a well-evidenced and tested explanation of facts.
     
  16. Warden_of_the_Storm

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    Except that evolution is a fact. It happens.
    The theory of evolution explains that fact.

    The fact that you don't know that simple piece of information shows me that you don't know what a theory is or what the word theory means at all.
     
  17. Warden_of_the_Storm

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  18. Jonathan Walkerin

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    That would make a thought provoking T shirt.
     
  19. eleos1954

    eleos1954 God is Love Supporter

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    The fact that you don't accept how science defines evolution themselves ... Theory of Evolution tells me you can't understand a simple and true statement made by them.

    If you don't like they way THEY define it .... talk to them about it.
     
  20. Warden_of_the_Storm

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    ... what on Earth are you talking about?
    Are you trying to turn the whole argument back on me? Because you are failing spectacularly and just showing that you clearly do not understand what theory means.
    Theories explain facts. The theory of evolution explains the fact of evolution.
     
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