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I give up: I'd rather go backwards, than forwards (in Evolution)

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It's not that I don't want to help Evolutionists, but their theory on its own, is too hard.

If you come to me saying "help me Evolve" I'm going to say "go back the way you came, your Evolution has nothing to do with me; if you call it Evolution and there is no point, your heart is deceived".

Not to put a spin on it, but there really is no reason to believe anything other than the words of Jesus - for Wisdom's sake. You putting on a parade, that you have somehow found words for life that are not His, only shows that you are more gullible for the works of the Devil, than is good for you.

If you loved the Word, you would remember Jesus' words - that's all I'm saying.

Jesus' words keep change in context, without which it is not possible to 'evolve' anything.

Respectfully over 17 pages all you've demonstrated is a colossal misunderstanding of evolution and the scientific process.

Many of your posts make absolutely no sense and it comes across as attempting to be intentionally disingenuous by making such ridiculous, ill-informed and flimsy statements you pass off as arguments.

Evolution isn't a conscious pursuit, it happens whether we want it to or not, whether we realise or not. Just like breathing, typing a reply on here you won't be consciously breathing or even think about it, it's an autonomous function that will happen whether you think about it or not.
 
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Respectfully over 17 pages all you've demonstrated is a colossal misunderstanding of evolution and the scientific process.

Many of your posts make absolutely no sense and it comes across as attempting to be intentionally disingenuous by making such ridiculous, ill-informed and flimsy statements you pass off as arguments.

Evolution isn't a conscious pursuit, it happens whether we want it to or not, whether we realise or not. Just like breathing, typing a reply on here you won't be consciously breathing or even think about it, it's an autonomous function that will happen whether you think about it or not.

So you are going to get to Heaven, and the only thing that will change is that you expect it to keep happening?

That has the distinct odour of incredulity.

No offence, but I will be objecting to sharing Heaven with you, if all you do is take it for granted.
 
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Heaven is not subject to the laws of nature.

Jesus said "I did not come to destroy the law or the prophets, I did not come to destroy but fulfil" (Matthew 5:17).

You are therefore, contradicting God.

If there is no law in Heaven, how did God create Earth? By covering Earth up, or adding to Earth that was already there?
 
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It's not that I don't want to help Evolutionists, but their theory on its own, is too hard.

If you come to me saying "help me Evolve" I'm going to say "go back the way you came, your Evolution has nothing to do with me; if you call it Evolution and there is no point, your heart is deceived".

Not to put a spin on it, but there really is no reason to believe anything other than the words of Jesus - for Wisdom's sake. You putting on a parade, that you have somehow found words for life that are not His, only shows that you are more gullible for the works of the Devil, than is good for you.

If you loved the Word, you would remember Jesus' words - that's all I'm saying.

Jesus' words keep change in context, without which it is not possible to 'evolve' anything.

Gott, please actually go and make an attempt to actually learn about evolution and the theory of evolution. It will make any problems you have with it go away.
 
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Gott, please actually go and make an attempt to actually learn about evolution and the theory of evolution. It will make any problems you have with it go away.

It's just a simple equation: you see value in the word you have, I believing the words of Jesus think that it will likely mean you will have interest in Jesus's words - at some point.

I would say words that never change, would evolve faster than words that do not - wouldn't you?

Well? That is a feature of what Jesus said: changing the date they have been said, does not change their truth value.

You can understand that, can't you?
 
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It's just a simple equation: you see value in the word you have, I believing the words of Jesus think that it will likely mean you will have interest in Jesus's words - at some point.

I would say words that never change, would evolve faster than words that do not - wouldn't you?

Well? That is a feature of what Jesus said: changing the date they have been said, does not change their truth value.

You can understand that, can't you?

No, I don't understand what you're saying because you're clearly not talking about evolution or biology or even science at all.
 
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No, I don't understand what you're saying because you're clearly not talking about evolution or biology or even science at all.

You are wilfully invoking ignorance, as though wisdom has no relationship of importance to what you say - but the Holy Spirit is not asking you to add to Jesus' words, without first attempting to understand them.

Surely you see this?

The longer you go without understanding the words of Jesus, the closer your soul gets to dying once and for all.

I will tell you you are on the Titanic, but it is up to you whether you take your chances with the life-rafts it has got.

Just think a little more seriously, about the fact that I am telling you about Heaven and Hell, not because I have forgotten sense or got it confused, but because how you interpret them, really will affect which one you will end up in - Evolution in Hell, is not a pretty conclusion to a long story about escaping the need to exercise sensible judgment...
 
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You are wilfully invoking ignorance, as though wisdom has no relationship of importance to what you say - but the Holy Spirit is not asking you to add to Jesus' words, without first attempting to understand them.

Surely you see this?

The longer you go without understanding the words of Jesus, the closer your soul gets to dying once and for all.

I will tell you you are on the Titanic, but it is up to you whether you take your chances with the life-rafts it has got.

Just think a little more seriously, about the fact that I am telling you about Heaven and Hell, not because I have forgotten sense or got it confused, but because how you interpret them, really will affect which one you will end up in - Evolution in Hell, is not a pretty conclusion to a long story about escaping the need to exercise sensible judgment...

I'm invoking ignorance because you are not making a single lick of sense to me. You are not talking about evolution, the very subject of your own original post. You are just talking random nonsense.

And please, stop trying to tie in evolution, a biological science, with theology and religion. They are not two things that can be meshed together in a way that works.
 
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Jesus said "I did not come to destroy the law or the prophets, I did not come to destroy but fulfil" (Matthew 5:17).

You are therefore, contradicting God.

If there is no law in Heaven, how did God create Earth? By covering Earth up, or adding to Earth that was already there?

If you can't understand the difference between the laws of nature and the law of the old testament then I don't know what to suggest other than speaking with your pastor and maybe going to a bible study group.
 
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It's not that I don't want to help Evolutionists, but their theory on its own, is too hard.

If you come to me saying "help me Evolve" I'm going to say "go back the way you came, your Evolution has nothing to do with me; if you call it Evolution and there is no point, your heart is deceived".

Not to put a spin on it, but there really is no reason to believe anything other than the words of Jesus - for Wisdom's sake. You putting on a parade, that you have somehow found words for life that are not His, only shows that you are more gullible for the works of the Devil, than is good for you.

If you loved the Word, you would remember Jesus' words - that's all I'm saying.

Jesus' words keep change in context, without which it is not possible to 'evolve' anything.
Jesus's words have nothing to do with the theory of evolution.
 
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It's not that I don't want to help Evolutionists, but their theory on its own, is too hard.

The theory of evolution is quite simple. The problem is you bring so many preconceived notions to it that are all wrong, and you are struggling to find some way to join what people are telling you to your idea of what evolution should be.

You need to forget all your preconceived notions of what evolution is and start fresh, without those preconceived notions.
 
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You are wilfully invoking ignorance, as though wisdom has no relationship of importance to what you say - but the Holy Spirit is not asking you to add to Jesus' words, without first attempting to understand them.

Surely you see this?

The longer you go without understanding the words of Jesus, the closer your soul gets to dying once and for all.

I will tell you you are on the Titanic, but it is up to you whether you take your chances with the life-rafts it has got.

Just think a little more seriously, about the fact that I am telling you about Heaven and Hell, not because I have forgotten sense or got it confused, but because how you interpret them, really will affect which one you will end up in - Evolution in Hell, is not a pretty conclusion to a long story about escaping the need to exercise sensible judgment...
Please take your medication, or seek help; your posts are becoming increasingly confused and irrelevant .
 
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It's not that I don't want to help Evolutionists, but their theory on its own, is too hard.

If you come to me saying "help me Evolve" I'm going to say "go back the way you came, your Evolution has nothing to do with me; if you call it Evolution and there is no point, your heart is deceived".

Not to put a spin on it, but there really is no reason to believe anything other than the words of Jesus - for Wisdom's sake. You putting on a parade, that you have somehow found words for life that are not His, only shows that you are more gullible for the works of the Devil, than is good for you.

If you loved the Word, you would remember Jesus' words - that's all I'm saying.

Jesus' words keep change in context, without which it is not possible to 'evolve' anything.
Here is a deal: I will not ask for your help to evolve back; and you don't tell me to evolve back. Deal? Deal!
 
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Did your evolution teacher teach you that?

If I remember rightly from my time in high school, evolution (as a whole) wasn't really touched on in biology. When we talked about genes and such, it was mentioned but we never had a full on lesson on evolution.

But, no-one taught me that. That's just an observation from my own understanding of evolution and reading Gottservant's posts. He really does not understand evolution, or even science.
 
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Did your evolution teacher teach you that?
Even if you disagree with a theory, you can still understand what it proposes.

Gottservant demonstrates over and over and over again that he doesn't understand, and regardless of his limitations, doesn't want to understand.
 
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Even if you disagree with a theory, you can still understand what it proposes.

Gottservant demonstrates over and over and over again that he doesn't understand, and regardless of his limitations, doesn't want to understand.
I guess you do not understand how to educate. It's your failing, not his.
 
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I guess you do not understand how to educate. It's your failing, not his.

You obviously haven't been paying attention to this thread or any thread that Gottservant has started.
 
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