How to kill Palestinians

[Carey]

Their not? Occupation 101

This film spins the anarchist Palestinians into martyrs just like they want ....LOL

It shows them running around in the streets rioting and it tries to make them look like victims ...LOL

They are rioting lawless riots.

If they don't like Israels laws they should move to Iraq or Iran or Egypt or....etc.

 

[gwynedd1]

Christian Zionists of the Dispensationalist variety tend to make absolute claims for their interpretation of key biblical texts. What serious students of the Bible have long known, however, is that there are different ways of reading the same texts. This is particularly true of the more difficult passages of scripture related to the Second Coming of Christ.

Christian Zionism "weds religion with politics and interprets biblical faithfulness in terms of fidelity to Israel's future", now really be honest, where is Christ's teaching in this?

ALSO, where is it located, in the NEW TESTEMENT, that a MODERN DAY SECULAR STATE is ELEVATED above CHRIST?

In watching Hagee, I truly find it hard to believe that people actually buy this baloney.

>Watch an extended version of Hagee's keynote address at A Night to Remember Israel, 2007 if link does not work go here http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/profile.html

These people are NOT worshipping God but an idol.

Ah yes Mr Hagee. I recall is quotation of John 4 "salvation is of the Jews" with no context but to add that the New Testament made such proclamations. This was not doubt to deflect that most of his time is spent in the OT. Apparently Jesus does not have much important to say or to reveal to us. In john 4 the context was that God's people will no longer worship God in Jerusalem but in faith and spirit and thus is the complete opposite of Israel/Jerusalem centricity which he promotes. Its kind of like reading a select portion of a sign at the zoo and saying out loud "feed the animals". Let me read a section of that sign that was left out when asked should we believe Mr Hagee? Do not.

 

[Tanakh]

Why does Israel get to dictate to the rest of the middle east what happens and how?

Who made Israel the one who gets to call the shots?

.

Deuteronomy 26:18-19 "And HASHEM has distinguished you today to be for Him a treasured people, as He spoke to you, and to observe all His commandments, and to make you supreme over all the nations that He made, for praise, for renown, and for splendor, and so that you will be a holy people to HASHEM, your G-d, as He spoke."

 

[Carey]

Tanahk my young zealot friend you never stop making me smile.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thereselittleflower

Why does Israel get to dictate to the rest of the middle east what happens and how?

Who made Israel the one who gets to call the shots?

.

Deuteronomy 26:18-19 "And HASHEM has distinguished you today to be for Him a treasured people, as He spoke to you, and to observe all His commandments, and to make you supreme over all the nations that He made, for praise, for renown, and for splendor, and so that you will be a holy people to HASHEM, your G-d, as He spoke

Lets add this to bring it up to todays time.
This has all came to pass since 1948...

Isaiah 60 : 5 Then you will look and be radiant,
your heart will throb and swell with joy;
the wealth on the seas will be brought to you,
to you the riches of the nations will come

10 "Foreigners will rebuild your walls,
and their kings will serve you.
Though in anger I struck you,
in favor I will show you compassion

 

[EternallyPierced]

Well, if someone is hard of hearing then yelling is the only way to get ones attention, IMO this is not rude.

I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Let me say it clearly:

Typing in all caps is rude, whether it is just a word or a whole sentence.

See Netiquette (Internet Etiquette)

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Christian Zionism "weds religion with politics and interprets biblical faithfulness in terms of fidelity to Israel's future", now really be honest, where is Christ's teaching in this?

ALSO, where is it located, in the NEW TESTEMENT, that a MODERN DAY SECULAR STATE is ELEVATED above CHRIST?

Excellent point! No state, whether secular or religious, should ever be held in such high regard that it is an exception to the message of Christ.

 

[Micah68]

I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Let me say it clearly:

Typing in all caps is rude, whether it is just a word or a whole sentence.

See Netiquette (Internet Etiquette)

My sincere apologies. It was not my intention to be rude only emphasizing a point. I WILL include a statement with my posts to prevent the misunderstanding.

 

[Carey]

I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Let me say it clearly:

Typing in all caps is rude, whether it is just a word or a whole sentence.

See Netiquette (Internet Etiquette)

Emphasis is rude??

How does one show emphasis with proper netiquette??

 

[EternallyPierced]

My sincere apologies. It was not my intention to be rude only emphasizing a point. I WILL include a statement with my posts to prevent the misunderstanding.

Oh my friend, you make me laugh If it is not your intention to be rude then why is "will" in alls caps?

Be blessed my friend

 

[EternallyPierced]

Emphasis is rude??

How does one show emphasis with proper netiquette??

Ah, Excellent point!

I think emphasis has to be shown in the words you choose and how you choose to say them, not in the way you make them look.

Back when I took Speech (Public Speaking), we had to write persuasive essays. I have never once wrote anything in all caps to get my point across yet accomplished my objective everytime.

 

[Micah68]

Excellent point! No state, whether secular or religious, should ever be held in such high regard that it is an exception to the message of Christ.

And Jesus Christ IS what is totally MISSING from this falsehood. CZ has put limits and restirictions on God with a MAN MADE script and creating events (through political means) to suit their purpose. I choose to believe that God is so much bigger. For GOD so Loved the WORLD........

Interesting no one, of this endtime belief, has yet to answer or prove any of my questions.....Yes interesting indeed.


My statement is NOT ment to be rude. But if I were verbally speaking these words, they would be in a strong, determined and confident voice, raising (CAPS) in volume to emphasize a particular point. -Micah 6:8

 

[gwynedd1]

Ah, Excellent point!

I think emphasis has to be shown in the words you choose and how you choose to say them, not in the way you make them look.

Back when I took Speech (Public Speaking), we had to write persuasive essays. I have never once wrote anything in all caps to get my point across yet accomplished my objective everytime.

i think perhaps you could also say that large caps are rude a little more nicely. imho
that would also accomplish your objective.

 

[Carey]

And Jesus Christ IS what is totally MISSING from this falsehood. CZ has put limits and restirictions on God with a MAN MADE script and creating events (through political means) to suit their purpose. I choose to believe that God is so much bigger. For GOD so Loved the WORLD........

Interesting no one, of this endtime belief, has yet to answer or prove any of my questions.....Yes interesting indeed.


My statement is NOT ment to be rude. But if I were verbally speaking these words, they would be in a strong, determined and confident voice, raising (CAPS) in volume to emphasize a particular point. -Micah 6:8

I assume political means did this too??

Isaiah 62 : 4 No longer will they call you Deserted,
or name your land Desolate.


Since 1960, the Israeli coastal dunes have undergone a stabilization process that is manifested in the increase of vegetation cover and in a decrease in the abundance of sand-living flora and fauna species. The objective of the study was to quantify, using remote sensing and GIS, the rate and extent of vegetation expansion and their resultant temporal changes on Israel’s southern coastal dunes between the years 1965 and 1999.
The results indicate that during the entire study period, the vegetation-covered area grew by 82% at an annual average growth rate of 1.75%. Concurrently, the bare shifting dune area decreased by 37% at an annual average growth rate of 1.34%.
The conspicuous trend over the period studied, despite regressive processes, is a transition from bare shifting dunes to stabilized, vegetation-covered dunes. The extrapolation of the results, assuming continuation of processes and no destruction effects, indicates that with the decrease in the bare shifting dunes, the ratio of bare shifting dunes and sparse vegetation coverage landscape will equalize by between 2007 and 2010. According to this extrapolation, between 2012 and 2015, no bare shifting dune landscape will remain, and the study area will be covered with sparse- and dense-level vegetation cover. Beginning in 2035, the entire study area will be covered in vegetation whose density will be between 60 and 100%. Meso-climate and land use changes are among the factors that might explain this phenomenon.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...0b88b1a4166159

 

[Micah68]

I assume political means did this too??

Isaiah 62 : 4 No longer will they call you Deserted,
or name your land Desolate.


Since 1960, the Israeli coastal dunes have undergone a stabilization process that is manifested in the increase of vegetation cover and in a decrease in the abundance of sand-living flora and fauna species. The objective of the study was to quantify, using remote sensing and GIS, the rate and extent of vegetation expansion and their resultant temporal changes on Israel’s southern coastal dunes between the years 1965 and 1999.
The results indicate that during the entire study period, the vegetation-covered area grew by 82% at an annual average growth rate of 1.75%. Concurrently, the bare shifting dune area decreased by 37% at an annual average growth rate of 1.34%.
The conspicuous trend over the period studied, despite regressive processes, is a transition from bare shifting dunes to stabilized, vegetation-covered dunes. The extrapolation of the results, assuming continuation of processes and no destruction effects, indicates that with the decrease in the bare shifting dunes, the ratio of bare shifting dunes and sparse vegetation coverage landscape will equalize by between 2007 and 2010. According to this extrapolation, between 2012 and 2015, no bare shifting dune landscape will remain, and the study area will be covered with sparse- and dense-level vegetation cover. Beginning in 2035, the entire study area will be covered in vegetation whose density will be between 60 and 100%. Meso-climate and land use changes are among the factors that might explain this phenomenon.


[URL]http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...0b88b1a4166159[/URL]

I am curious, what point are you trying to make? That Science justifies stealing peoples homes and lands? That agriculture knowledge justifies heinous crimes against humanity? How does this justify killing and displacing the Palestinian people? Your brothers and sisters in Christ are suffering.......oh you say this is proof of prophecy forget that so called prophecy can almost be applied to any time in history and fit as man is good at such manipulations.

“If one part [of Christ’s Church] suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.” (I Corinthians 12:26

 

[Servant222]

Your brothers and sisters in Christ are suffering.......

First, are not over 90% of Palestinians Muslims? Not that that ever justifies anything.

But more to the point, here is a typical situation that will likely all be blamed on Israel. From Aljazeera, October 24, 2007

Israel set to sever power to Gaza

Ehud Barak, the Israeli defence minister, is expected to approve this week a gradual severance of the supply of electricity and fuel to the Gaza Strip, military officials have said.

The plan, formulated by a team lead by Matan Vilnai, the deputy defence minister, is expected to be approved by Barak on Thursday.

Speaking to Army Radio on Wednesday, Vilnai said: "It's clear that we have to cut off ... the supply of electricity and the supply of fuel.

"We will dramatically reduce the flow of electricity from Israel over several weeks."

Israel currently supplies about 60 per cent of Gaza's electricity needs, but it was not immediately clear when the decision would take effect.

The military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said electricity would initially be cut for 15 minutes, then by half an hour, and then by an increase in time each day as long as rocket attacks against Israel continued.

Vilnai said the proposal calls for Israel not to cut off the power supply to hospitals and other vital installations in an effort to avoid a humanitarian crisis.

Rocket attacks on southern Israel have killed 12 people in the past six years.

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So the Israelis are making it very clear: You have fired over 500 rockets at us over the past few months, and that has got to stop.

If you don't stop firing rockets, we will slowly cut off the electricity, which we so generously supply to you.

Why is this unfair?

 

[Micah68]

First, are not over 90% of Palestinians Muslims? Not that that ever justifies anything.

But more to the point, here is a typical situation that will likely all be blamed on Israel. From

So the Israelis are making it very clear: You have fired over 500 rockets at us over the past few months, and that has got to stop.

If you don't stop firing rockets, we will slowly cut off the electricity, which we so generously supply to you.

Why is this unfair?

So you are saying Israel, with their military superiority, is justified in the collective punishment of an entire population? Do you understand the population of Gaza and that this populations' every source for sustaining life, food, water, and yes electricity is controlled by Israel? People are staving, parents can not feed their children, the children watch their parents humiliated at the check points nine times out of ten not being allowed to pass through. Babies are born and die at these same checks points. These people are not treated as human. Even a dog, if beaten long enough will bite back.

Closed borders, closed future in Gaza
Sami Abu Salem, Live from Palestine, Oct 22, 2007

Nine-year-old Najla Rajab, with her two brothers and mother, was among tens of Palestinians demonstrating today in Gaza City, calling for permission to leave Gaza. Najla said that she wants to travel to Saudi Arabia to see her father and to re-enroll in her school in Jeddah, but she has not been able to since Israel has closed Gaza's borders for months. "We came to Gaza to spend the summer vacation. Now we are stranded here; I cannot go back to my school in Saudi Arabia," said Najla. Sami Abu Salem reports from Gaza. [MORE]

From 1949
For the next 18 years — with the brief exception of Israeli occupation during the Suez Crisis — the Gaza Strip was run by Egypt, with which it shares an 11km (6.8 mile) border and the Rafah border crossing. But in 1967, it fell to Israel during the Six Day War, which took control of its internal and external security and started to build Jewish settlements within its borders. The economy of the strip became more and more interlinked with Israel, with as much as 40 per cent of the adult population crossing the border each day to work there, but poverty festered in the refugee camps and violence sparked the first intifada in 1987. In 1993, self-rule was handed back to the Palestinians but from 2000 and the start of the second intifada, the border has been ever more tightly patrolled. In 2005, Israel unilaterally removed 5,000 Jewish settlers from the strip.
Population
More than 1.4 million people live in the 360 square kilometres of the Gaza Strip, making it one of the most crowded places on earth. In 1948, just 80,000 people lived in the same area. According to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), 993,818 of the residents of the strip are refugees and 75 per cent of them live in eight camps, where the population density can reach over 75,000 people per square kilometre. Twenty-per cent of homes are not connected to the sewage system, making sanitation a major problem. The population is 99 per cent Palestinian and most are Sunni Muslims. The majority of the population is not originally from Gaza and also young: the median age of men in the Gaza Strip is 15.9, women 16.2.
Economy
According to 2003 estimates, GDP per head in the Gaza Strip was $1,500, the same as Chad and Mozambique and less than Rwanda. Conditions have worsened since then, with near-constant border closures making trade and employment in Israel, which used to provide a third of income in Gaza, nearly impossible. More than 60 per cent of Gazans live beneath the poverty line and many rely on food aid to survive. Construction, light industry, fishing and agriculture — mostly citrus fruit farms — provide what little employment there is. Very few women work outside cottage industries, such as textile making, and the home. It has no independent currency, and uses the Israeli shekel.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article1949775.ece

 

[Servant222]

The Wall stopped the suicide bombings in Jerusalem.

The shut-down of electricity and fuel will hopefully stop the rocket attacks.

The Palestinians have no one but themselves to blame for their plight- they totally control whether the switch is up or down.

 

[Micah68]

The Wall stopped the suicide bombings in Jerusalem.

The shut-down of electricity and fuel will hopefully stop the rocket attacks.

The Palestinians have no one but themselves to blame for their plight- they totally control whether the switch is up or down.

Your ignorance knows no bounds if you truly believe this. Educate thy self.

 

[Micah68]

When approached to sign a petition to condemn the Arab revolt in Palestine and to support the settlement of Jews Sigmund Freud wrote in response:

"I cannot do as you wish. I am unable to overcome my aversion to burdening the public with my name, and even the present critical time does not seem to me to warrant it. Whoever wants to influence the masses must give them something rousing and inflammatory and my sober judgment of Zionism
does not permit this....I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives. Now judge for yourself whether I, with such a critical point of view, am the right person to come forward as the solace of a people deluded by unjustified hope."

Freud's Letter to Dr. Chaim Koffler Keren HaYassod, Vienna: 26 February 1930; posted at the Freud Institute in UK website: http://www.freud.org.uk./arab-israeli.html

 

[Rion]

I think it's obvious we're not going to change each other's minds.

While I do not see the Israelites as "innocents" I cannot emotionally discard any people, even if many of them hate us, to torture and death.

Do innocent Palestinians die? Yes, everyday.

Does Israel cause most of the issues? Most certainly not.

Is it a complex issue with both sides having points to their arguments? Yes.

Does this mean that the Israelites should abandon their land, given to their Forefathers from old by God (even if you believe they no longer have any right to it)? Not at all. Nor should they give pieces of land to the Palestinians if it will threaten their security.

I find it sad about the whole affair, but most of all, I find it sad that many Israelites will go to their grave hating Christianity because some of us suggest they are not really Hebrews and that they not only do not deserve the land of their fathers, but that are evil warmongers who are the cause of all this problem... Meanwhile, the Palestinians make kids shows encouraging killing of Israelites, and specifically target children. No wonder some sneer at us.