How much of Matthew 24 is fulfilled

[he-man]

Any other views? I would like to hear from some RCs if possible. Thanks

[I myself believe all of Matt 24 and Daniel are fulfilled]

Oh really?
39And knew not until and the flood came, and destroyed them all; and so shall the coming of the Son of man be.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Oh really?
39And knew not until and the flood came, and destroyed them all; and so shall the coming of the Son of man be.

Tho art yet still carnal me thinks

We do know these enemies of Jesus and Paul disappeared off the face of the earth in AD 70 and I am sure the Christians Jews were glad to see that, tho till today, they do miss that Temple

Matthew 3:7 Seeing yet many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming upon the baptism he said to them, prodigy of vipers! who intimates to ye to be fleeing from being about wrath?

The Sadducees | Bible.org - Worlds Largest Bible Study Site

Being closely associated with the Temple, the Sadducees disappeared from history when the Temple was destroyed in 70.

I recommend gandering at this site. I can practically harmonize the whole Olivet Discourse to this:

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

..............The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover.............
　
.......The Temple now presented little more than a heap of ruins............

 

[he-man]

Tho art yet still carnal me thinks

and so shall the coming of the Son of man be.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

and so shall the coming of the Son of man be.

Weren't the OC 1st century Jews a little perplexed about the "Son of man" [as they still are to this very day]?

Young) John 12:34 the multitude answered him "we heard out of the law that the Christ doth remain--to the age; and how dost Thou say 'that it behoveth the Son of Man to be lifted up'? Who is this--the Son of Man?

Matt 10:23 "Whenever yet they may be chasing/persecuting ye in the city, this, be fleeing into the other.
For Amen I am saying to ye, not no ye should be finishing the cities of the Israel till ever may be coming/elqh <2064> (5632) the Son of Man".
[Revelation 19:11]

Reve 14:14 And I saw and behold! a white cloud and upon the cloud one sitting like-as Son of Man having upon the head of him a crown of gold and in the hand of him a sickle, keen.
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[he-man]

Weren't the OC 1st century Jews a little perplexed about the "Son of man" [as they still are to this very day]?
Reve 14:14 And I saw and behold! a white cloud and upon the cloud one sitting like-as Son of Man having upon the head of him a crown of gold and in the hand of him a sickle, keen.

Exactly, that is why it says 27 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.&#8221;
Luke 21:27-28 (ESV)

The Harvest of the Earth
Rev 14:14 (ESV)​

15 And another angel came out of the temple, calling with a loud voice to him who sat on the cloud, &#8220;Put in your sickle, and reap, for the hour to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is fully ripe.&#8221; 16 So he who sat on the cloud swung his sickle across the earth, and the earth was reaped.
Rev 14:15-16 (ESV)

29 But when the grain is ripe, at once he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come.&#8221;
Mark 4:29 (ESV)

1 &#8220;For behold, in those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, 2] I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat.
Joel 3:1-2 (ESV)

Jehovah-judged; Jehoshaphat&#8212;Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary

12] Let the nations stir themselves up and come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; for there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations. 13] Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Go in, tread, for the winepress is full. The vats overflow, for their evil is great.
Joel 3:12-13 (ESV)

And he who is left in Zion and remains in Jerusalem will be called holy, everyone who has been recorded for life in Jerusalem,4 when the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion and cleansed the bloodstains of Jerusalem from its midst by a spirit of judgment and by a spirit of burning. 5 Then the Lord will create over the whole site of Mount Zion and over her assemblies a cloud by day, and smoke and the shining of a flaming fire by night; for over all the glory there will be a canopy.
Isaiah 4:3-5 (ESV)

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

okie dokie he-man

 

[he-man]

okie dokie he-man

Where is the ark of God?

6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen
Rev 1:6-7 (ESV)

10 and you have made them a kingdom and priests to our God,

and they shall reign on the earth.&#8221;
Rev 5:10 (ESV)

22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering,
Heb 12:22 (ESV)

30 But what does the Scripture say? &#8220;Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.&#8221;
Gal 4:30 (ESV)

So David went and brought up the ark of God from the house of Obed-edom to the city of David with rejoicing
2 Sam 6:12 (ESV)

19 The singers, Heman, Asaph, and Ethan, were to sound bronze cymbals;
1 Chron 15:19 (ESV)


29 So Zadok and Abiathar carried the ark of God back to Jerusalem, and they remained there.

30 But David went up the ascent of the Mount of Olives, weeping as he went, barefoot and with his head covered. And all the people who were with him covered their heads, and they went up, weeping as they went

2 Sam 15:29-30 (ESV)

 

[he-man]

New thread here, for discussion of this subject he-man;

No need, we already have one!
SEE HERE>http://www.christianforums.com/t7591863/#post58616373

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering,
Heb 12:22 (ESV)

30 But what does the Scripture say? &#8220;Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.&#8221;
Gal 4:30 (ESV)

2 mountains enter [OC/NC....]1 mountain leaves [OC]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7463574-13/#post54613209
2 Mountains
&#12288;
Young) Hebrews 12:22 But ye came to Mount Zion, and to a city of the living God, to the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of messengers,
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Gala 4:25 For the Hagar is mount Sinai in the Arabia is together-elemental yet to the now Jerusalem slaving with the offspring of Her.

Reve 8:8 And the second Messenger trumpets and as-like a great Mountain to fire burning was cast into the Sea
and became the third of the Sea blood
[Matthew 21:21/Hebrew 12:18]

 

[he-man]

2 mountains enter [OC/NC....]1 mountain leaves [OC]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7463574-13/#post54613209
2 Mountains
&#12288;
Young) Hebrews 12:22 But ye came to Mount Zion, and to a city of the living God, to the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of messengers,&#12288;

SEE HERE> http://www.christianforums.com/t7591863/#post58616373

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

SEE HERE> [URL]http://www.christianforums.com/t7591863/#post58616373[/URL]

I already posted twice on it
But I prefer to stick with Matt 24 for now if ya don't mind

Who Posted? - Christian Forums

 

[he-man]

I already posted twice on it
But I prefer to stick with Matt 24 for now if ya don't mind

Great, however for those like
Originally Posted by Zeena

New thread here, for discussion of this subject he-man;[/quote]
​

No need, we already have one!
SEE HERE>http://www.christianforums.com/t7591863/#post58616373

Joh 3:8 The wind <G4151> blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit <G4151>."

Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind
<H7307>, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind <H7307>, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds <H7307>, O breath <H7307>, and breathe <H5301> upon these slain, that they may live.

Job 27:3 All the while my breath <H5397> is in me, and the spirit <H7307> of God is in my nostrils;

Job 33:4 The Spirit <H7307> of God hath made me, and the breath <H5397> of the Almighty hath given me life.

Eze 37:13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit <H7307> in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

For those interested, I started a thread on GT concerning Josephus and the destruction of Jerusalem.
I will be devoting much of my time posting on that thread and hope others here find it edifying.
God bless

http://www.christianforums.com/t7593926/#post58625222
Josephus's sights and signs 1st century...did these really occur?

 

[he-man]

For those interested, I started a thread on GT concerning Josephus and the destruction of Jerusalem.
I will be devoting much of my time posting on that thread and hope others here find it edifying.
God bless sights and signs 1st century...did these really occur?

Exactly, not NOW but shalll be,

Mat 5:5 Blessed the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Psa 37:11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Psa 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.


1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

At his coming, for he must reign on earth, otherwise what kingdom can be delivered up to God, even the Father; until all enemies are destroyed or placed under his authority.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

According to your philosophy, there is no longer any death or dying in this world, even for murderers, liars, and etc.

What, then does it mean "through death he might destroy him that had the power of death", when it is stated that God alone has the power of death? Deut. 32:39-42

Also what did the immolation of flesh and blood have to do with him dying? Was it not a very weak way to attempt to ward off a supernatural devil, by simply dying?

Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
Joshua, the high priest; and Zerubbabel the governor. These are anointed - appointed by the Lord; and stand by him, the one to minister in the ecclesiastical, the other in the civil state.[JFB]

God is governor of all and Christ is the anointed Priest

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

Gen 13:15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

22:14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh:[Jehovah to see to it] as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.

28:15 And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of.

Gen 35:12 And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.

Amen Amen, even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

For those interested, I started a thread on GT concerning Josephus and the destruction of Jerusalem.
I will be devoting much of my time posting on that thread and hope others here find it edifying.
God bless

http://www.christianforums.com/t7593926/#post58625222
Josephus's sights and signs 1st century...did these really occur?

Exactly, not NOW but shalll be,

Amen Amen, even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!

The 1st century Jews were also looking forward to that.
Did you gander at the thread at the link I gave by any chance?

 

[he-man]

The 1st century Jews were also looking forward to that.
Did you gander at the thread at the link I gave by any chance?

Did you gander at what I quoted?
Mat 5:5 Blessed the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Psa 37:11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Psa 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.


1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

At his coming, for he must reign on earth, otherwise what kingdom can be delivered up to God, even the Father; until all enemies are destroyed or placed under his authority.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

According to your philosophy, there is no longer any death or dying in this world, even for murderers, liars, and etc.

What, then does it mean "through death he might destroy him that had the power of death", when it is stated that God alone has the power of death? Deut. 32:39-42

Also what did the immolation of flesh and blood have to do with him dying? Was it not a very weak way to attempt to ward off a supernatural devil, by simply dying?

Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
Joshua, the high priest; and Zerubbabel the governor. These are anointed - appointed by the Lord; and stand by him, the one to minister in the ecclesiastical, the other in the civil state.[JFB]

God is governor of all and Christ is the anointed Priest

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

Gen 13:15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

22:14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh:[Jehovah to see to it] as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.

28:15 And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of.

Gen 35:12 And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.

Amen Amen, even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Did you gander at what I quoted?

Nope.
I already know your stand on Matt 24 and so far, yer in the minority on your view
I will wait for others to respond if you don't mind

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I will not be changing the view I have held to for almost 8 yrs now, that Revelation is symbolizing the fall of Jerusalem and it Temple in ad70 and the fulfillment of Daniel and the Olivet Discourse, and more are beginning to start viewing it that way.

Matthew 24:1 And coming-out, the Jesus, He went from the Temple, and toward-came the disciples of Him to show to Him the buildings of the Temple 2 and Jesus is saying to them "Not ye see all these? Amen I am saying to ye, not no be being left here stone upon stone which not shall be being thrown down"
[Mark 21:5/Luke 19:41/Revelation 14:8]

Luke 19:41 And as He nears, beholding the City and He laments on Her,
42 saying, "That if thou-knew, and thou, even indeed in the day, this, the toward Peace of thee, now yet it was Hid from thy eyes.
43 That shall be arriving days upon thee, and thy enemies shall be casting up a rampart/siege-work to thee, and shall be encompassing thee, and pressing thee every which place.
44 And they shall be leveling thee and thy offspring in thee, and not they shall be leaving stone upon stone in thee,......
[Revelation 14:8]

Reve 14:8 And another Messenger, second-one follows saying "She falls, She falls, Babylon the Great, the out of the wine of the fury of the fornication of her she has given to drink all the nations".

 

[stelow]

I voted fulfilled.

Hebrews 10:27 - 31

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the For it is another matter to sin through the frailty of man's nature, and another thing to proclaim war on God as on an enemy. adversaries.
28 If the breach of the law of Moses was punished by death, how much more worthy of death is it to fall away from Christ? He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment suppose ye shall he be worthy, which treadeth under foot the Son of God, and counteth the blood of the Testament as an unholy thing, wherewith he was sanctified, and doeth despite the Spirit of grace?
30 The reason of all these things is, because God is a revenger of those who despise him: otherwise he could not rightly govern his Church. Now there is nothing more horrible then the wrath of the living God. For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall Rule or govern. judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[he-man]

I voted fulfilled.

Hebrews 10:27 - 31

Sorry dude but ....
Hab 2:10 Thou hast consulted shame to thy house by cutting off many people, and hast sinned against thy soul.

Heb 10:27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries.

29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has spurned the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?

30 The reason of all these things is, because God is a revenger of those who despise him: otherwise he could not rightly govern his Church. Now there is nothing more horrible then the wrath of the living God. For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall Rule or govern. judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Yes, but only if you are not among the Saints!

Psa 149:9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

Heb 10:36 For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God you might receive what is promised.

37 For, "Yet a little while, and the coming one will come and will not delay;

Rom 4:21 And that being fully persuaded, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

Gen 13:15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

22:14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh:[Jehovah to see to it] as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.

28:15 And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of.

Gen 35:12 And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.