How does one correctly keep the Sabbath according to SDA doctrine?

[YeshuaFan]

a distinction without a difference

BIG difference, as Prophets spoke and wrote inspired scripture, something EW could not do!

 

[YeshuaFan]

Here again you simply post your own feelings then claim I believe it to be true .. why keep doing that? What purpose does that tactic serve?

You are not responding to any such statement by me on that point - you are just "reaching" and then claiming I think whatever you post is true.

Who is that supposed to be convinced by that sort of tactic?

You deny that Sda must heed and accept what EW stated scriptures meant?

 

[BobRyan]

We are free to have our own understandings on what the Bible teaches, !

As are we all --- but try joining the baptist church by some means other than baptism by immersion and let me know how that goes for you. Then come back and we will speak more on that point.

 

[BobRyan]

You deny that Sda must heed and accept what EW stated scriptures meant?

Do you claim to be quoting me or making things up? Do you claim to find that in one of our statements of belief? Why keep doing that??

 

[mmksparbud]

Sda holds that EW was the Prophetess, just as inspired as Ot prophets and NT Apostles, and you hold to one MUT keep the Sabbath , or else get mark of the beast!

I do believe she was a prophetess---does not mean that she must be accepted. I do believe in the biblical Sabbath, there is not one verse that states we are to worship on the 1st day of the week instead of the 7th day---if you have one, please quote it. One the Sabbath becomes a law that we must keep Sunday -- then and only then--does that become the sign of the beast. Sunday is the sign of the RCC authority and they claim that themselves. When it is a decision between following the laws of man or of God, I will choose God. State it correctly or do not state it at all! It's what is the truth that matters, in everything, including stating what we believe, not what people think we believe.

 

[BobRyan]

This is where someone was offered the chance to have a Bible discussion on a topic they brought up -- but then apparently they declined

And we believe 1 Cor 14:1 "Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy"
And we believe 1 Cor 14:26 How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.

And we believe 1 Thess 5:19-22
19 Do not quench the Spirit; 20 do not despise prophetic utterances. 21 But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; 22 abstain from every form of evil.

And we believe 1 Cor 12:28 And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. 29 All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they?

And we believe Numbers 12:6 6 He said,“Hear now My words:
If there is a prophet among you,
I, the Lord, shall make Myself known to him in a vision.
I shall speak with him in a dream.

And we believe 1 John 4: Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world

And we believe that Agabus in the book of Acts was a prophet
And we believe that Nathan was a prophet who spoke to king David
And we believe that Anna in the temple at the time of the birth of Christ was a prophet.
And we believe the Deborah at the time of the judges was a prophet.
...

 

[mmksparbud]

Jesus had His own Apostles "break it" and said they were not guilty of anything!

Jesus never broke the Sabbath of God---for He was the one that instituted it at Creation, He is the Creator! He broke the Jewish rabbis traditions of what the Sabbath was---never what the Sabbath actually was about!

 

[YeshuaFan]

Here again you simply post your own feelings then claim I believe it to be true .. why keep doing that? What purpose does that tactic serve?

You are not responding to any such statement by me on that point - you are just "reaching" and then claiming I think whatever you post is true.

Who is supposed to be convinced by that sort of tactic?

That is what Sda teaches concerning EW, correct?

 

[BobRyan]

I do believe she was a prophetess---does not mean that she must be accepted. .

true.

And there are many variations of that,

But "The point" is that there is a published statement of SDA beliefs that everyone can see on the internet - yet instead of going there and asking about this-or-that statement what we often see is people just tossing out some ideas to see if they fly as "I sure think SDAs believe this or that thing I just said" - as that sort of thing then becomes an official statement of our beliefs.

 

[BobRyan]

Jesus had His own Apostles "break it" and said they were not guilty of anything!

No he did not

 

[YeshuaFan]

true.

And there are many variations of that,

But "The point" is that there is a published statement of SDA beliefs that everyone can see on the internet - yet instead of going there and asking about this-or-that statement what we often see is people just tossing out some ideas to see if they fly as "I sure think SDAs believe this or that thing I just said" - as that sort of thing then becomes an official statement of our beliefs.

You have the stated doctrines, but then turn right around and gold to "as EW teaches them"

 

[BobRyan]

That is what Sda teaches concerning EW, correct?

You and I can both go and post the "real" statement from the SDA doctrinal statement of beliefs and then add "That's what Adventist teach". We won't find your statements there - but at least that is a start.

 

[YeshuaFan]

No he did not

Apostles changed worship day to the Lords day Sunday!

 

[mmksparbud]

BIG difference, as Prophets spoke and wrote inspired scripture, something EW could not do!

LOL!! All you have to do it quote what she said that is contrary to the bible!! Many have tried, failed. You are just parroting what others say, not what she herself has said. Quote her, not what other people say she said!!

 

[BobRyan]

You have the stated doctrines, but then turn right around and gold to "as EW teaches them"

I could argue that every Baptist only believes as they are told to believe by their pastor - but that does not make it true. Try something else.

 

[YeshuaFan]

You and I can both go and post the "real" statement from the SDA doctrinal statement of beliefs and then add "That's what Adventist teach". We won't find your statements there - but at least that is a start.

You have your statements, and then have EW teach you what they really mean!

 

[BobRyan]

Apostles changed worship day to the Lords day Sunday!

And I assume that as a Baptist who affirms the "sola scriptura" principle of testing doctrine -- you have an actual Bible text for that one.

 

[YeshuaFan]

LOL!! All you have to do it quote what she said that is contrary to the bible!! Many have tried, failed. You are just parroting what others say, not what she herself has said. Quote her, not what other people say she said!!

her mark of the beast is NOT in the Bible!

 

[mmksparbud]

You have the stated doctrines, but then turn right around and gold to "as EW teaches them"

Please quote where we say that, you keep parroting stuff without quoting her or us directly.

 

[BobRyan]

I could argue that every Baptist only believes as they are told to believe by their pastor - but that does not make it true. Try something else.

You have your statements, and then have EW teach you what they really mean!

try something other than claiming you know what I am thinking at each moment and why

Be at least a little objective, make a compelling argument for your POV