How does one correctly keep the Sabbath according to SDA doctrine?

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So much controversy about Sabbath keeping, so please explain;
Exactly when does the Sabbath start?
Exactly when does the Sabbath end?
What is allowable to do on the Sabbath that was forbidden in the OT? (Kindling a fire etc.)
What is forbidden to do on the Sabbath?
What is the Mark of the Beast?
Please quote chapter and verse in the answer.
Please quote EG White's writings where relevant.
Thank you.
 

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So much controversy about Sabbath keeping, so please explain;
Exactly when does the Sabbath start?
Exactly when does the Sabbath end?
What is allowable to do on the Sabbath that was forbidden in the OT? (Kindling a fire etc.)
What is forbidden to do on the Sabbath?
Ellen G. White Writings - Search Sabbath
 
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Unimaginably voluminous, This search results in 56,025 references.
Surely a SDA has compiled a list of do's and don'ts based on EGW's writings.

Please post that.
You have all the information and tools that you need.
The Mark of the Beast
 
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So much controversy about Sabbath keeping, so please explain;
Exactly when does the Sabbath start?
Exactly when does the Sabbath end?
What is allowable to do on the Sabbath that was forbidden in the OT? (Kindling a fire etc.)
What is forbidden to do on the Sabbath?
What is the Mark of the Beast?
Please quote chapter and verse in the answer.
Please quote EG White's writings where relevant.
Thank you.
I very much doubt ANY of them have been keeping it as God described under the old covenant!
And the mark of the Beast per Ellen White was still future, when one doing Sunday worship was now doing that!
 
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This is what the bible says and what we go by:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Isa_58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:


It is not a day of mournful doing nothing--it is to be a delight, a joy, a day of not doing our "own thing"--a day to spend with God completely. To take our minds totally away from the things of the world and think only on the sacred. We think of God every day--this is to be totally immersed in Him. However much people say they worship every day-- it is not possible. We are to cease from work--you can't cease from work every day. We can't turn our minds to thinking only of Jesus if you are doing a delicate surgery ---we must concentrate on our jobs also in order to them do well, which we are supposed on the other 6 days. It is a day to rest our bodies and minds. A change from the ordinary ways of spending our days.

We do not go by what the rabbi's added. The days in the bible--from Genesis on--are from sundown to sundown--a day to the Jews began on the evening -- not at midnight nor at sunrise. It is how God set it up at creation. And the Sabbath is a day to celebrate God as the Creator. It is kept from sundown Friday night to sundown Saturday night.
Kindling a fire is not stated in the 4th commandment. No one has kindled a fire in several hundred years--and flipping a switch is not kindling a fire. Jews consider anything that creates a spark as creating fire and would rather walk up 5 flights of stairs than to use an elevator. We go up the elevator as we consider going up 5 flights of stairs work and harder on the body than pushing a button. The concept is rest. It used to take quite a bit to kindle a fire. As for the fact that others are working to keep the electricity going---"nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:" We are to control what happens in our home, not outside of it. We are, of course, to continue to take care of the sick, the elderly, and animals--those who can not take care of themselves. SDA doctors and medical workers are on as needed biases, if medical appointments and surgeries and such can be cone on another day, then that is what we do, For those who have to work on Sabbath taking care of the sick usually donate what they make on that day to the church, or they are usually paid a salary instead of by the hour. I usually was able to trade days --worked Sundays for those who wanted Sundays off and they worked my Sabbaths.

The Mark of the beast is not explained in 30 words or less. It is based on biblical definitions of what the words beasts represent in other parts of the bible, which is political powers--Daniel and Revelation are usually taken together. It tells you in Daniel what the animals represent. We believe in letting the bible interpret itself. It is best to go to where they go into this in-depth, as given above-- in order to understand the meanings of everything. Just a few thigs to consider.

Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
Dan 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
Dan 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

When dealing with prophecy we go by 1 day as a year.

Num_14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.
Eze_4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

Throughout the bible, a chaste woman is often portrayed as the people of God--an erring woman as one that has committed adultery, a harlot. They have left Him for others. A good woman in prophecy is the church of God, an evil one, a harlot--would be a church who has left Him.

Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

In other words, this beast comes out of a heavily populated area. Conversely when a beast arises out of dry land--it would be in an unpopulated or very sparsely populated area.

The whole thing over the mark of the beast centers on one thing---worship.

Rev_14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Rev_14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev_14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev_15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

It is a matter of choosing to whom we will worship as our creator God. Either God or an image, a man, and then what it is that each has as a mark--their signature--of who they are and the power they have.
 
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HEY! GREAT! WONDERFUL ! GOD'S WORD !

I fully believe JESUS perfectly did also, and we are supposed to follow JESUS ! RIGHT? :) HALLELUYAH!

(not regarding SDA teaching or doctrine - I do not know those well; but what is posted here is BIBLE; THAT IS GOOD and TRUTH ! )
 
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This is what the bible says and what we go by:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Isa_58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:


It is not a day of mournful doing nothing--it is to be a delight, a joy, a day of not doing our "own thing"--a day to spend with God completely. To take our minds totally away from the things of the world and think only on the sacred. We think of God every day--this is to be totally immersed in Him. However much people say they worship every day-- it is not possible. We are to cease from work--you can't cease from work every day. We can't turn our minds to thinking only of Jesus if you are doing a delicate surgery ---we must concentrate on our jobs also in order to them do well, which we are supposed on the other 6 days. It is a day to rest our bodies and minds. A change from the ordinary ways of spending our days.

We do not go by what the rabbi's added. The days in the bible--from Genesis on--are from sundown to sundown--a day to the Jews began on the evening -- not at midnight nor at sunrise. It is how God set it up at creation. And the Sabbath is a day to celebrate God as the Creator. It is kept from sundown Friday night to sundown Saturday night.
Kindling a fire is not stated in the 4th commandment. No one has kindled a fire in several hundred years--and flipping a switch is not kindling a fire. Jews consider anything that creates a spark as creating fire and would rather walk up 5 flights of stairs than to use an elevator. We go up the elevator as we consider going up 5 flights of stairs work and harder on the body than pushing a button. The concept is rest. It used to take quite a bit to kindle a fire. As for the fact that others are working to keep the electricity going---"nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:" We are to control what happens in our home, not outside of it. We are, of course, to continue to take care of the sick, the elderly, and animals--those who can not take care of themselves. SDA doctors and medical workers are on as needed biases, if medical appointments and surgeries and such can be cone on another day, then that is what we do, For those who have to work on Sabbath taking care of the sick usually donate what they make on that day to the church, or they are usually paid a salary instead of by the hour. I usually was able to trade days --worked Sundays for those who wanted Sundays off and they worked my Sabbaths.

The Mark of the beast is not explained in 30 words or less. It is based on biblical definitions of what the words beasts represent in other parts of the bible, which is political powers--Daniel and Revelation are usually taken together. It tells you in Daniel what the animals represent. We believe in letting the bible interpret itself. It is best to go to where they go into this in-depth, as given above-- in order to understand the meanings of everything. Just a few thigs to consider.

Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
Dan 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
Dan 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

When dealing with prophecy we go by 1 day as a year.

Num_14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.
Eze_4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

Throughout the bible, a chaste woman is often portrayed as the people of God--an erring woman as one that has committed adultery, a harlot. They have left Him for others. A good woman in prophecy is the church of God, an evil one, a harlot--would be a church who has left Him.

Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

In other words, this beast comes out of a heavily populated area. Conversely when a beast arises out of dry land--it would be in an unpopulated or very sparsely populated area.

The whole thing over the mark of the beast centers on one thing---worship.

Rev_14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Rev_14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev_14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev_15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

It is a matter of choosing to whom we will worship as our creator God. Either God or an image, a man, and then what it is that each has as a mark--their signature--of who they are and the power they have.
Thank you very much.
 
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So much controversy about Sabbath keeping, so please explain;
Exactly when does the Sabbath start?
Exactly when does the Sabbath end?
What is allowable to do on the Sabbath that was forbidden in the OT? (Kindling a fire etc.)
What is forbidden to do on the Sabbath?
What is the Mark of the Beast?
Please quote chapter and verse in the answer.
Please quote EG White's writings where relevant.
Thank you.
I will try my best to give you the answers you seek.

The Sabbath starts at sunset on Friday and ends at Sunset on Saturday. Biblically, the day goes from evening to morning. In Genesis 1 you find many repeated verses that say that the evening and the morning were the *** day. Also, there are quite a few verses that also state specifically that the Sabbath is always from evening to evening. Here is one:
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.

Alright so in terms of what is allowable there is not a list of do's and dont's, but there are principles. Isaiah 58:13,14 is one such principle, that states you are not to do your own pleasure. So your own pleasure constitutes of whatever you normally do for your own pleasure and enjoyment that has nothing to do with God or your spiritual communion with him and is also not necessary for you to do (as when Jesus said if your donkey is in a ditch, won't you pick it up on the Sabbath?). Jesus also demonstrates another principle when he states and showed that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath and we see he healed the sick on the Sabbath (Mark 3:4). The Sabbath commandment states it is a day of rest so you are to cease from your regular work that you have six days to do. So you have to ask yourself if what you do violates the principles or not. In OT times, kindling a fire at that time required a lot of work and preparations could be made so avoid having to do it so it would fall within the principle. We can't just look at the rules because times changes and situations change but we have to look at the principle.

In terms of what is the Mark of the Beast, its a big study. I will explain the belief briefly. Firstly, you have to properly identify the beast. According to Daniel 2 and Daniel 7, when you look at the succession of the kingdoms represented in the visions, the 4th Kingdom is Rome which came after Greece. In Daniel 2 it is represented by the Legs of Iron and in Daniel 7 it is represented by the dreadful beast with teeth of Iron. These both represent the Iron Monarchy of Rome and the iron is significant because it is said that Rome was able to defeat Greece because of the superior weapons which were made of iron. In Daniel 7, this 4th Kingdom is divided and from it comes a little horn which does some very significant things. We believe this little horn to represent Papal Rome or the Papacy as the division of Pagan Rome took place somewhere at 476AD and in 538AD Emperor Justinian gave over his power and authority to the Bishop of Rome making him the most powerful and we believe this is when Papal Rome really began its reign as the little horn of Daniel 7. Now even before that in 321AD the first Roman Pope Constantine the Great legislated Sunday as the day of rest and worship. This was the first Sunday law. Daniel 7 says that this power will continue for a time, times and the dividing of times which is 3 1/2 prophetic years which is 1260 prophetic days. Papal Rome rules for much much longer than just 1260 days so this is not literal. If we try the day for a year principle (Num_14:34, Eze_4:6), we come up with 1260 years. So is there anything significant that happened 1260 years after 538AD? Yes! Napoleon Bonaparte had his general go to Rome and take the Pope prisoner and declare the Papacy to be basically dead. Now Revelation 13 picks up from Daniel 7 because it says after the 42 months= 1260 days =1260 years, the Beast would receive a deadly wound, but eventually the deadly wound will be healed. I think I am beginning to make this too long but the point is that we believe the Roman Church State will be restored and exercise the power it had in times past where she can make laws . The Papacy claims according to their own sources that the change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday is a MARK of their authority. We believe that when they rise to full power again they shall enforce a Sunday Law forcing all to worship on Sunday or face penalties. Since this is their mark, and they are the beast, anyone who complies will be accepting the mark of the beast. I know I have gone on long but I have to also show you this scripture as it just came to me. Now in Deut 5 the giving of the 10 commandments happened again. Notice these verses in chapter 6.

Deu 6:1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
Deu 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

So here God is saying that his commandments will be like a sign on the hand and on the forehead. The beast also has his sign/mark and it comes from obeying his laws.
 
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This is what the bible says and what we go by:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Isa_58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:


It is not a day of mournful doing nothing--it is to be a delight, a joy, a day of not doing our "own thing"--a day to spend with God completely. To take our minds totally away from the things of the world and think only on the sacred. We think of God every day--this is to be totally immersed in Him. However much people say they worship every day-- it is not possible. We are to cease from work--you can't cease from work every day. We can't turn our minds to thinking only of Jesus if you are doing a delicate surgery ---we must concentrate on our jobs also in order to them do well, which we are supposed on the other 6 days. It is a day to rest our bodies and minds. A change from the ordinary ways of spending our days.

We do not go by what the rabbi's added. The days in the bible--from Genesis on--are from sundown to sundown--a day to the Jews began on the evening -- not at midnight nor at sunrise. It is how God set it up at creation. And the Sabbath is a day to celebrate God as the Creator. It is kept from sundown Friday night to sundown Saturday night.
Kindling a fire is not stated in the 4th commandment. No one has kindled a fire in several hundred years--and flipping a switch is not kindling a fire. Jews consider anything that creates a spark as creating fire and would rather walk up 5 flights of stairs than to use an elevator. We go up the elevator as we consider going up 5 flights of stairs work and harder on the body than pushing a button. The concept is rest. It used to take quite a bit to kindle a fire. As for the fact that others are working to keep the electricity going---"nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:" We are to control what happens in our home, not outside of it. We are, of course, to continue to take care of the sick, the elderly, and animals--those who can not take care of themselves. SDA doctors and medical workers are on as needed biases, if medical appointments and surgeries and such can be cone on another day, then that is what we do, For those who have to work on Sabbath taking care of the sick usually donate what they make on that day to the church, or they are usually paid a salary instead of by the hour. I usually was able to trade days --worked Sundays for those who wanted Sundays off and they worked my Sabbaths.

The Mark of the beast is not explained in 30 words or less. It is based on biblical definitions of what the words beasts represent in other parts of the bible, which is political powers--Daniel and Revelation are usually taken together. It tells you in Daniel what the animals represent. We believe in letting the bible interpret itself. It is best to go to where they go into this in-depth, as given above-- in order to understand the meanings of everything. Just a few thigs to consider.

Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
Dan 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
Dan 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

When dealing with prophecy we go by 1 day as a year.

Num_14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.
Eze_4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

Throughout the bible, a chaste woman is often portrayed as the people of God--an erring woman as one that has committed adultery, a harlot. They have left Him for others. A good woman in prophecy is the church of God, an evil one, a harlot--would be a church who has left Him.

Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

In other words, this beast comes out of a heavily populated area. Conversely when a beast arises out of dry land--it would be in an unpopulated or very sparsely populated area.

The whole thing over the mark of the beast centers on one thing---worship.

Rev_14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Rev_14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev_14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev_15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

It is a matter of choosing to whom we will worship as our creator God. Either God or an image, a man, and then what it is that each has as a mark--their signature--of who they are and the power they have.

Had I seen this I probably would not have said anything but I am happy I did because you included some things that I left out and I included some things that you left out.
 
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I will try my best to give you the answers you seek.

The Sabbath starts at sunset on Friday and ends at Sunset on Saturday. Biblically, the day goes from evening to morning. In Genesis 1 you find many repeated verses that say that the evening and the morning were the *** day. Also, there are quite a few verses that also state specifically that the Sabbath is always from evening to evening. Here is one:
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.

Alright so in terms of what is allowable there is not a list of do's and dont's, but there are principles. Isaiah 58:13,14 is one such principle, that states you are not to do your own pleasure. So your own pleasure constitutes of whatever you normally do for your own pleasure and enjoyment that has nothing to do with God or your spiritual communion with him and is also not necessary for you to do (as when Jesus said if your donkey is in a ditch, won't you pick it up on the Sabbath?). Jesus also demonstrates another principle when he states and showed that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath and we see he healed the sick on the Sabbath (Mark 3:4). The Sabbath commandment states it is a day of rest so you are to cease from your regular work that you have six days to do. So you have to ask yourself if what you do violates the principles or not. In OT times, kindling a fire at that time required a lot of work and preparations could be made so avoid having to do it so it would fall within the principle. We can't just look at the rules because times changes and situations change but we have to look at the principle.

In terms of what is the Mark of the Beast, its a big study. I will explain the belief briefly. Firstly, you have to properly identify the beast. According to Daniel 2 and Daniel 7, when you look at the succession of the kingdoms represented in the visions, the 4th Kingdom is Rome which came after Greece. In Daniel 2 it is represented by the Legs of Iron and in Daniel 7 it is represented by the dreadful beast with teeth of Iron. These both represent the Iron Monarchy of Rome and the iron is significant because it is said that Rome was able to defeat Greece because of the superior weapons which were made of iron. In Daniel 7, this 4th Kingdom is divided and from it comes a little horn which does some very significant things. We believe this little horn to represent Papal Rome or the Papacy as the division of Pagan Rome took place somewhere at 476AD and in 538AD Emperor Justinian gave over his power and authority to the Bishop of Rome making him the most powerful and we believe this is when Papal Rome really began its reign as the little horn of Daniel 7. Now even before that in 321AD the first Roman Pope Constantine the Great legislated Sunday as the day of rest and worship. This was the first Sunday law. Daniel 7 says that this power will continue for a time, times and the dividing of times which is 3 1/2 prophetic years which is 1260 prophetic days. Papal Rome rules for much much longer than just 1260 days so this is not literal. If we try the day for a year principle (Num_14:34, Eze_4:6), we come up with 1260 years. So is there anything significant that happened 1260 years after 538AD? Yes! Napoleon Bonaparte had his general go to Rome and take the Pope prisoner and declare the Papacy to be basically dead. Now Revelation 13 picks up from Daniel 7 because it says after the 42 months= 1260 days =1260 years, the Beast would receive a deadly wound, but eventually the deadly wound will be healed. I think I am beginning to make this too long but the point is that we believe the Roman Church State will be restored and exercise the power it had in times past where she can make laws . The Papacy claims according to their own sources that the change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday is a MARK of their authority. We believe that when they rise to full power again they shall enforce a Sunday Law forcing all to worship on Sunday or face penalties. Since this is their mark, and they are the beast, anyone who complies will be accepting the mark of the beast. I know I have gone on long but I have to also show you this scripture as it just came to me. Now in Deut 5 the giving of the 10 commandments happened again. Notice these verses in chapter 6.

Deu 6:1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
Deu 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

So here God is saying that his commandments will be like a sign on the hand and on the forehead. The beast also has his sign/mark and it comes from obeying his laws.
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To answer the OP in a direct fashion, the SDA "keeps" the Sabbath in essentially the same manner as those Protestants who "keep" Sunday. Where they actually keep these days seems to be a secret.

Seriously, though, the SDAs observance of the Sabbath is only remotely related to the Old Testament and it is closely related to standard church-going activities found in other churches on Sundays.
 
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To answer the OP in a direct fashion, the SDA "keeps" the Sabbath in essentially the same manner as those Protestants who "keep" Sunday. Where they actually keep these days seems to be a secret.

Seriously, though, the SDAs observance of the Sabbath is only remotely related to the Old Testament and it is closely related to standard church-going activities found in other churches on Sundays.

True...…..but, they are so unscripturally obsessed with the Saturday Sabbath, they have dreamed up a new way to oppose the worship of God on Sunday.

They think the mark of the beast is Sunday worship!
 
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True...…..but, they are so unscripturally obsessed with the Saturday Sabbath, they have dreamed up a new way to oppose the worship of God on Sunday.

They think the mark of the beast is Sunday worship!

Yes, it seems to be the classic case of swallowing the camel while straining out the gnat.
 
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True...…..but, they are so unscripturally obsessed with the Saturday Sabbath, they have dreamed up a new way to oppose the worship of God on Sunday.

They think the mark of the beast is Sunday worship!
Yes, it seems to be the classic case of swallowing the camel while straining out the gnat.



Do either of you know what the mark of the beast is?
 
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