House floor erupts after GOP lawmaker shouts 'Go back to Puerto Rico'

[SummerMadness]

House floor erupts after GOP lawmaker shouts 'Go back to Puerto Rico'

The House floor erupted Thursday shortly before Congress adjourned for the week when Republican Rep. Jason Smith yelled a potentially racially charged remark across the aisle as Democratic Rep. Tony Cárdenas was at the podium.

“Go back to Puerto Rico!” the Missouri congressman shouted, punctuating a stream of Republican whooping and hollering at the Democratic majority for initially rejecting their request to redo a vote on a continuing resolution to reopen shuttered agencies through Feb. 28.

 

[W2L]

I was watching a UFC fight and they had Snoop Dogg as a commentator. He said some pretty bad stuff that seemed very racist against whites. It never made the news that i know of. No one cried out for justice.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

I was watching a UFC fight and they had Snoop Dogg as a commentator. He said some pretty bad stuff that seemed very racist against whites. It never made the news that i know of. No one cried out for justice.

It's mostly a one-sided affair we all know that.
M-Bob

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I was watching a UFC fight and they had Snoop Dogg as a commentator. He said some pretty bad stuff that seemed very racist against whites. It never made the news that i know of. No one cried out for justice.

I must have missed Snoop Dogg's election to a public office.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

It's mostly a one-sided affair we all know that.
M-Bob

Yes, where one side is holding elected representatives to a higher standard and the other complains about mean comments celebrities have made.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I was watching a UFC fight and they had Snoop Dogg as a commentator. He said some pretty bad stuff that seemed very racist against whites. It never made the news that i know of. No one cried out for justice.

Let American blacks rule society and oppress whites for a few hundred years, then I'll get on board with complaining about Snoop Dogg's racism.

 

[W2L]

Let American blacks rule society and oppress whites for a few hundred years, then I'll get on board with complaining about Snoop Dogg's racism.

In other words its ok to hate whites.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Let American blacks rule society and oppress whites for a few hundred years, then I'll get on board with complaining about Snoop Dogg's racism.

Just goes to show what's down deep.

M-Bob

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I was watching a UFC fight and they had Snoop Dogg as a commentator. He said some pretty bad stuff that seemed very racist against whites. It never made the news that i know of. No one cried out for justice.

It's mostly a one-sided affair we all know that.
M-Bob

What does this Whataboutism have to do with an elected white Republican shouting the racist remark "Go back to Puerto Rico!" to a fellow Congressman on the floor of this country's Congress?

 

[W2L]

What does this Whataboutism have to do with an elected white Republican shouting the racist remark "Go back to Puerto Rico!" to a fellow Congressman on the floor of this country's Congress?

It has to do with how news is reported and about racism in general. The OP is news and about racism.

 

[Bobber]

Let American blacks rule society and oppress whites for a few hundred years, then I'll get on board with complaining about Snoop Dogg's racism.

Two wrongs don't make a right period!

 

[GlabrousDory4]

I was watching a UFC fight and they had Snoop Dogg as a commentator. He said some pretty bad stuff that seemed very racist against whites. It never made the news that i know of. No one cried out for justice.

Here's the key: racism is NEVER OK, but when you have an historically repressed group who still have, as a group, a significant lack of control in society then it is pretty meaningless for them to be "racist" against the folks who are actually in control.

It's a relative power dynamic. If a toddler you didn't know came up to you in the store and said horrible things about your mother, would you be within your right to punch the toddler in the face? Or would you simply suggest, mildly, that said toddler should not say horrible things like that?

The toddler represents NO THREAT to you. None whatsoever. You are an adult with literally all the power in the world, compared to the toddler.

This is not to infantilize the black community but rather to show the difference in group power and the relative dynamics. As white people we enjoy a lot of things that most black people will never know. (Not all individuals, mind you, just as groups). So how threatening is it to you that they might say things that are unpleasant for you to hear?

The real threat is what happens when whites are no longer in the majority or in control?

as they say: be nice to people on your way up because you'll see them on your way down.

 

[iluvatar5150]

In other words its ok to hate whites.

In other words, you're moving the goalposts.

You said, "No one cried out for justice." The reason nobody cried out about Snoop Dogg's remarks (assuming they're even as bad as you suggest) is because there hasn't been a history of anti-white injustice in this country. His comments aren't the continuation of a larger movement to oppress an entire people group; they're just a dude cracking jokes. If that dynamic changes, then my response will change.

 

[W2L]

Here's the key: racism is NEVER OK, but when you have an historically repressed group who still have, as a group, a significant lack of control in society then it is pretty meaningless for them to be "racist" against the folks who are actually in control.

It's a relative power dynamic. If a toddler you didn't know came up to you in the store and said horrible things about your mother, would you be within your right to punch the toddler in the face? Or would you simply suggest, mildly, that said toddler should not say horrible things like that?

The toddler represents NO THREAT to you. None whatsoever. You are an adult with literally all the power in the world, compared to the toddler.

This is not to infantilize the black community but rather to show the difference in group power and the relative dynamics. As white people we enjoy a lot of things that most black people will never know. (Not all individuals, mind you, just as groups). So how threatening is it to you that they might say things that are unpleasant for you to hear?

The real threat is what happens when whites are no longer in the majority or in control?

as they say: be nice to people on your way up because you'll see them on your way down.

Blacks have held every position of power in american government. Look at it from my perspective, many of them are rich but im poor. They have things i dont have but im not complaining. So how is it that they have a lack of control?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Blacks have held every position of power in american government. Look at it from my perspective, many of them are rich but im poor. They have things i dont have but im not complaining. So how is it that they have a lack of control?

Because you're bad at math? There are more rich whites than there are rich blacks in the US, both in terms of raw numbers and in terms of percentages of the population. That you aren't among either group doesn't negate their relative numbers.

To date, Americans have held every position of power on the moon. How much control do we have there?

Making it to some place a few times doesn't necessarily mean you control it.

 

[W2L]

Because you're bad at math? There are more rich whites than there are rich blacks in the US, both in terms of raw numbers and in terms of percentages of the population. That you aren't among either group doesn't negate their relative numbers.

To date, Americans have held every position of power on the moon. How much control do we have there?

Making it to some place a few times doesn't necessarily mean you control it.

I disagree with your interpretation of current events.

 

[GlabrousDory4]

Blacks have held every position of power in american government. Look at it from my perspective, many of them are rich but im poor. They have things i dont have but im not complaining. So how is it that they have a lack of control?

This is where statistics comes in handy.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I disagree with your interpretation of current events.

Speaking of current events, not for Black people but for Native Americans.

To begin with, there is the continuous of the government breaking treaties to encroach upon what scraps of tribal lands are left like in Standing Rock and with Keystone XL or the late Sentator John McCain attempting to sell Oak Flats San Carlos Apache land to a foreign mining company or Trump's advisors wanting to privatize NDN reservations or Trump wanting to built his border wall on Tohono O’odham Nation tribal land or the attempted tribal land grabs by Republican senators or the water crisis in the Navajo Nation where 40% of the Navajo don't have clean water.

Police brutality against Native Americans is the highest in the country according to the data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (source), but it is the least talked about when police brutality against black people and other minorities is being addressed. And for the record, the suicide rate among native youth is the highest in the country. There are also the psychological studies of Historical Trauma and Intergenerational Trauma among Native Americans as well. I posted a few articles on some of the psychological studies in my previous post here: trauma, PTSD and the high suicide rate among native youth. And finally, for the sake of argument, the current Native American population is only 2.9 million or about 0.9 percent of the United States' total population (source).

These are some of the current events of Native Americans.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I disagree with your interpretation of current events.

What do you disagree with? The data on wealth and poverty by race is pretty easy to come by (and jives with what I said) You might have to dig a little more for statistical breakdowns of the demographics of elected officials, but a quick glance suggests they've been underrepresented there as well.

Or is it my characterization of our standing on the moon with which you disagree?

 

[Ringo84]

Only in 2019 would a thread about a racist comment apparently directed at a minority Congresswoman would be spun as "hating whites".

White fragility is alive and well.
Ringo