helping others by getting vaccine

[classical5]

& my relative, a nurse, got the vaccine



Do I still need to get vaccinated if I’ve already had COVID-19?


"Andrew Badley, M.D., COVID-19 Research Task Force Chair, Mayo Clinic: If you've already had COVID-19, should you still get vaccinated? The answer is yes. Several reasons for that. One is that the duration of immunity that you receive after having COVID-19 disease is variable. Our current estimates are that that goes away over about three months. The vaccine protection can augment that. So our current recommendations are, if you've had COVID-19, wait until you're better and up to about 90 days or three months and then receive the vaccine when you're able to."

It’s way too early to tell how long immunity lasts.

In general natural immunity is better. Tetanus immunity from vax lasts 8-10 years, if you get tetanus and survive you have lifetime immunity. Whooping cough immunity from vax lasts maybe 8-10 years (they think maybe 5), natural is lifetime.

Some vaccines are lifetime like polio vax, but so is natural immunity to polio.

Same with flu, natural immunity is life long for that particular strain. There is every reason to expect covid natural immunity is life long or at least longer than vax immunity.

 

[KCfromNC]

CDC said Zostovax shingles vax was safe, big tv promo and everything, until years later people started going blind. Zostovax has an unprecedented 2 black box warnings from the FDA and had to be quietly replaced with Shingrix vax.

That's nice. What about all the treatments approved by the CDC which didn't have this problem?

And even after all their lies on covid you trust them?

What lies?

 

[KCfromNC]

It’s way too early to tell how long immunity lasts.

In general natural immunity is better.

Except for the death rate from the disease required to acquire natural immunity to covid.

 

[mama2one]

'Exhaustion,' 'frustration': Why some vaccinated people are losing motivation to stay safe


"If people aren't going to put in the effort to end this pandemic, why am I putting my needs of... a good mental state (aside)... for others who just clearly don't care," Sowa adds."


"The frustration also has been illustrated as a group project, where everyone has to participate to get a good grade (have the pandemic end). But, if part of the group isn't participating (the unvaccinated), the others (vaccinated) start to see their efforts as pointless."

 

[KCfromNC]

"The frustration also has been illustrated as a group project, where everyone has to participate to get a good grade (have the pandemic end). But, if part of the group isn't participating (the unvaccinated), the others (vaccinated) start to see their efforts as pointless."

Another option is to give a heads up to the teacher that some are trying to freeload on the work of others. In this case, replace teachers with employers and insurance companies.

 

[classical5]

That's nice. What about all the treatments approved by the CDC which didn't have this problem?


What lies?

Zostovax is one example of a vaccine passing all trials, being approved by the FDA, being heavily marketed by the CDC, and after millions of people took funding out it causes shingles and worse it causes an eye condition which causes blindness.

Mistakes are made in the normal unpoliticized process. How much riskier is a process that is rushed, highly political, $billions to pharma and the govt, new untested tech, and the people running the process have a conflict of interest?

 

[classical5]

That's nice. What about all the treatments approved by the CDC which didn't have this problem?


What lies?

Lies- everything Fauci says. The CDC telling docs to make covid the primary cause of death if it’s even a possibility the deceased had covid. Denial of the effectiveness of hydroxy and ivermectin and the unwillingness to even consider alternatives to the vax. Approval of the vax before any of the approval studies are completed.

 

[classical5]

Except for the death rate from the disease required to acquire natural immunity to covid.

True, but the covid death rate is over 99% for the general population. Those at high risk - the same group that’s at high risk from influenza - should take precautions.

if this were a truly serious disease like small pox or yellow fever where the consequences of getting the disease are severe for all, then there is no doubt a vaccine is the way to go.

None of that changes the fact natural immunity is better than vax immunity.

 

[classical5]

'Exhaustion,' 'frustration': Why some vaccinated people are losing motivation to stay safe


"If people aren't going to put in the effort to end this pandemic, why am I putting my needs of... a good mental state (aside)... for others who just clearly don't care," Sowa adds."


"The frustration also has been illustrated as a group project, where everyone has to participate to get a good grade (have the pandemic end). But, if part of the group isn't participating (the unvaccinated), the others (vaccinated) start to see their efforts as pointless."

A USA Today / yahoo article? The same people who censor everyone they don’t like? The same people who are little more than a propaganda tool of the socialists?

That’s your source? LOL. Rejected!

 

[classical5]

Another option is to give a heads up to the teacher that some are trying to freeload on the work of others. In this case, replace teachers with employers and insurance companies.

Yes, have the govt use force to get employers and insurance companies and businesses and banks to ostracize people that don’t obey.

Set it up so you will have to show papers - maybe something like a passport - in order to get a job and buy and sell.

If some people won’t obey, deny them health care, starve them into submission. Make parents watch their children suffer.

That’s the Christian way. Or is it?

 

[TLK Valentine]

If nothing else, we've learned that a certain percentage of the population are determined to be utterly useless to others even in the best of situations.

In tines of crisis, they're determined to be less than useless.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yes, have the govt use force to get employers and insurance companies and businesses and banks to ostracize people that don’t obey.

The only people the government is forcing to get vaccinated are its own employees. Other employers are doing likewise.

That's what happens when you run the country like a business -- he who signs the checks makes the rules.

 

[KCfromNC]

Zostovax is one example of a vaccine passing all trials, being approved by the FDA, being heavily marketed by the CDC, and after millions of people took funding out it causes shingles and worse it causes an eye condition which causes blindness.

Is anyone advocating this vaccine for covid? Not sure why you'd bring it up.

 

[KCfromNC]

Lies- everything Fauci says.

Well, as long as your posts aren't having to retreat into hyperbole rather than actually answer the question.

 

[KCfromNC]

True, but the covid death rate is over 99% for the general population. Those at high risk - the same group that’s at high risk from influenza - should take precautions.

if this were a truly serious disease like small pox or yellow fever where the consequences of getting the disease are severe for all, then there is no doubt a vaccine is the way to go.

None of that changes the fact natural immunity is better than vax immunity.

I don't know, some people might think that a vastly higher death rate for getting natural immunity would matter.

 

[KCfromNC]

Yes, have the govt use force to get employers and insurance companies and businesses and banks to ostracize people that don’t obey.

Set it up so you will have to show papers - maybe something like a passport - in order to get a job and buy and sell.

If some people won’t obey, deny them health care, starve them into submission. Make parents watch their children suffer.

Are some people so self-destructive that they'll avoid doing the right thing just because experts say it is a good idea? Seems like a weird way to go through life.

 

[classical5]

Read post 145.

Some people want the govt to work through proxies, the govt gets its way by coercing/forcing businesses & banks to implement the govt agenda. Exactly what is happening today.

Exactly what the Nazis did.

 

[classical5]

Is anyone advocating this vaccine for covid? Not sure why you'd bring it up.

Read the thread. Get up to speed.

 

[classical5]

Are some people so self-destructive that they'll avoid doing the right thing just because experts say it is a good idea? Seems like a weird way to go through life.

So just torture them into submission? Just kill them if they won’t do what you want them to do? Because that’s what you and others are proposing.

 

[KCfromNC]

Read the thread. Get up to speed.

I did. In context, your post looks to be an off-topic distraction, even more so when instead of answering a direct question I get a post like this in response.