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Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Hammster, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. bling

    bling Regular Member Supporter

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    When asked by Christ, the apostles to first come could they have refused, Peter had to be coerced, so could he have still said "no" or was Christ giving him an order?
    Lots of people were invited to the banquet, but some refused so can you refuse to go or does the Master kidnap His guests?
     
  2. A_Thinker

    A_Thinker Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The Spirit convicts the world of sin ...

    John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, He will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; ...
     
  3. Hammster

    Hammster Private Status. Do Not Read. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    So the natural man can respond to this?
     
  4. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    No I agree that it is possible that the Holy Spirit plays a role in calling someone to believe.
     
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  5. Hammster

    Hammster Private Status. Do Not Read. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Possible?
     
  6. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    Yes because he hasn’t been born again yet and the regeneration process hasn’t started. This doesn’t happen until we receive the indwelling Spirit. Cornelius believed before receiving the indwelling Spirit.
     
  7. Hammster

    Hammster Private Status. Do Not Read. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    That would be Pelagianism. That’s been considered a heresy for centuries.
     
  8. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    I say possible because I’m not aware of any scriptures that specifically state this.
     
  9. 98cwitr

    98cwitr Lord forgive me Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Are we not His disciples?
     
  10. 98cwitr

    98cwitr Lord forgive me Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Yes.

    Yes.

    It was the Holy Spirit, not my sinful nature, which revealed to me my need for salvation by exposing my sins to me.
     
  11. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    We are still a natural man until we receive the indwelling Spirit. I just said it is possible that the Holy Spirit plays a role in our calling to believe.
     
  12. renniks

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    I have researched it pretty intensely. It's obviously divine determinism, (all things are ultimately determined by God's decrees) You are free to try and prove otherwise...
     
  13. renniks

    renniks Active Member

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    No analogy is perfect, it still basically works.
     
  14. 98cwitr

    98cwitr Lord forgive me Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    And is natural man inherently sinful or not, in your belief?
     
  15. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    The Holy Spirit revealed your sinful nature.
     
  16. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    Yes
     
  17. Hammster

    Hammster Private Status. Do Not Read. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    I’ll help you out.

    Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
    Romans 8:1-8
     
  18. Hammster

    Hammster Private Status. Do Not Read. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    No, you haven’t. If you had, you wouldn’t make straw man arguments.
     
  19. Hammster

    Hammster Private Status. Do Not Read. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    It works for you to attempt to disprove Reformed Theology. But you changed it up when it was put back on you.
     
  20. 98cwitr

    98cwitr Lord forgive me Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Understand I lived the first 25 years of my life as a rather militant atheist. I knew that if I had any faith, what I was doing was sinful, thus a product of my sinful nature, but rejected Christian theology entirely. I Would say the best way to put my conversion to faith was the working of the Holy Spirit to first acknowledge the existence of God, then to learn of Him, then to struggle with Him, then to find peace within Him.
     
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