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.Until iniquity was found in you
James 1:14.
Where did this iniquity come from if it was not there from the creation?
hismessenger
I find that it started in Genesis 3. It was not there from the very beginning. However, the human responsibility that God gave to Adam and Eve seems to have been the embryo for this iniquity..
Where did this iniquity come from if it was not there from the creation?
hismessenger
Try telling that to the person who has been raped. Or to the child who has been violated by a paedophile. Or to the families who are grieving from the evil performed in Norway!Evil is experienced only in the realm of appearances and has nothing to do with essence. It's illusory. Evil is like the snake we see when we look at a coiled up rope in dim light. The reality is rope the delusional experience is snake. When Reality is seen evil is forgotten. Like waking up from a dream. There is no ultimately existing category called "evil" to create in the first place.
I find that it started in Genesis 3. It was not there from the very beginning. However, the human responsibility that God gave to Adam and Eve seems to have been the embryo for this iniquity.
You are not addressing the comment that I made.And God the creator didn't know what he had created in them? Or what would occur in the creation knowing what he planned from the beginning to the end. Can you not see the error of that thinking?
hismessenger
Try telling that to the person who has been raped. Or to the child who has been violated by a paedophile. Or to the families who are grieving from the evil performed in Norway!
Did I say He wasn't aware of the possiblity of man falling from Grace?How do you create something from beginning to end and have holes in your plan you aren't aware of.
What I said is that He didn't plan for it.
Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him
1) beginning, origin
2) the person or thing that commences, the first person or thing in a series, the leader
3) that by which anything begins to be, the origin, the active cause
4) the extremity of a thing
a) of the corners of a sail
5) the first place, principality, rule, magistracy
a) of angels and demons
Jer 18:8"if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it.
Jer 26:3 'Perhaps everyone will listen and turn from his evil way, that I may relent concerning the calamity which I purpose to bring on them because of the evil of their doings.'
BibleGateway.com - Keyword Search: i will repayPeople like to say what God wouldn't do but here in these two passages God speaks of the disaster(sunami on Vietnam), and the calamity (hurricane Katrina on new Orleans), both of which God considered evils that He thought to do on man kind. When will the truth be believed?
hismessenger
So what you are saying just as many others have stated is that God planned this creation without knowing every aspect of what it is that He created, How then is he sovereign and all knowing. Do you really believe what you are saying or for that matter can you hear what you are saying?"good or evil are not created. they just are
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