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Freedom from Sin: Overcoming the Wet Paint Principle (the complete version)

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I'm the kind of person that prays for the wrath and judgment of God on moderators when they destroy my hard-invested work by deleting it, or when they ban me from their site for speaking the truth. Wrath is on them to the uttermost according to 1 Thessalonians 2:16, they go one step further by pressing a button so the person can't speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, they don't just forbid it, they put a stop to it. So how much more are they subject to wrath? And if this gets deleted, I know I have reached my intended audience but they hardened their hearts.

You can always just create a website and voice your opinion there. You can do videos on YouTube or write a book or preach to people in person. This is not the only place to give your voice. There are merely rules here that one has to follow. Yes, some of them are a little restrictive and it is frustrating, and does go against what I believe God's Word says, but we do not live in a perfect world.

Also, you are having the wrong attitude towards the creators of this website and the rules they set forth. We are to pray for our enemies (if you consider them your enemy) and we are to do good unto them and to love them. You know, those words of Jesus in Matthew 5?
 
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Ephesians 5:13-b KJV, Everything that doth make manifest is light. ASV really butchers that verse and makes it tell a lie.

I believe that the KJV is the divinely inspired perfect Word of God, and I don't see a problem with the ASV rendering unless you are looking at a different one than me. While I love the KJV, I also like the AMPC in what it says.

"But when anything is exposed and reproved by the light, it is made visible and clear; and where everything is visible and clear there is light."
(Ephesians 5:13 AMPC).
 
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I also have prayed for the Lord to show me the truth for many years, and as result I came up with the document in the OP. So I guess the Lord didn't answer that prayer for one of us? Unless it is as I say, and you are picking it apart with a carnally-minded use of scripture without understanding the document as a whole. Tell me, when you study scripture, do you gain understanding by reconciling apparent contradictions in your mind? Every verse of the OP is a biblical statement. When I first got saved, people told me, "there are many contradictions in the Bible" to dissuade me from my faith (they tried but did not succeed). Ever after I noticed apparent contradictions and have always found the answer: and this has formed my theology. And yes, I am the author of the OP. So when you attack my document, I feel that you are trying to kill my baby.
 
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I also have prayed for the Lord to show me the truth for many years, and as result I came up with the document in the OP. So I guess the Lord didn't answer that prayer for one of us? Unless it is as I say, and you are picking it apart with a carnally-minded use of scripture without understanding the document a a whole. Tell me, when you study scripture, do you gain understanding by reconciling apparent contradictions in your mind? Every verse of the OP is a biblical statement. When I first got saved, people told me, "there are many contradictions in the Bible" to dissuade me from my faith (they tried but did not succeed). Ever after I noticed apparent contradictions and have always found the answer: and this has formed my theology. And yes, I am the author of the OP. So when you attack my document, I feel that you are trying to kill my baby.

There are no words that we speak but God's Word alone. Anything we say or do should be to glorify His Word. So there should be no...."my baby" or "this is mine", etc. God should get the glory. All things are His. Believers plant seeds, and another waters, but it is God who gives the increase.

You said before that want you vengeance upon the creators of this website; However, Jesus says we are to pray for our enemies. So forgive me if I don't hold to your views as being sent forth from God. If you want to explain the verses I brought forth in rebuttal, then by all means, please do so. For by doing so, it will show if what you are teaching as truth can stand up to any kind of scrutiny in light of God's Word as a whole.

Peace from the Lord be unto you, dear sir;
And may you please be well.

Side Note:

Oh, and yes; I had a feeling you had written that article.
 
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You can always just create a website and voice your opinion there. You can do videos on YouTube or write a book or preach to people in person. This is not the only place to give your voice. There are merely rules here that one has to follow. Yes, some of them are a little restrictive and it is frustrating, and does go against what I believe God's Word says, but we do not live in a perfect world.

Also, you are having the wrong attitude towards the creators of this website and the rules they set forth. We are to pray for our enemies (if you consider them your enemy) and we are to do good unto them and to love them. You know, those words of Jesus in Matthew 5?
I understand. I have just gotten very angry with them (fed up, in fact) when I put in hours of labour into a post and later it gets destroyed. But I understand we need to pick and choose our battles. Monster moderators, I call them, who ban Spirit-filled believrs for speaking their mind, or delete our posts or put them somewhere else if they're too controversial. Or else they lock the thread so it goes to the bottom of the barrel and no one sees it any more. It is very frustrating because you put a lot of work into it. I feel they deserve the wrath of God; and David also did pray the impreccatory Psalms...
 
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I understand. I have just gotten very angry with them when I put in hours of labour into a post and later it gets destroyed. But I understand we need to pick and choose our battles. Monster moderators, I call them, who ban Spirit-filled believrs for speaking their mind, or delete our posts or put them somewhee else if they're too controversial. Or else they lock the thread so it goes to the bottom of the barrel and no one seesit any more. It is very frustrating because you put a lot of work into it. I fel they deserve the wrath of God; and David alsi did pray the impreccatory Psalms...

But writing for God is small potatoes compared to the other things He desires from us (Which are harder).

We shouldn't be holding out vengeance for anyone or call them names because Jesus tells us that we are to pray and do good towards our enemies.

The doctrine of Sinless Perfectionism is regarded as untrue by most Christian churches these days. They are of course wrong, but we should not be surprised that forums like these would try to limit the exposure of such a teaching. I am surprised they allow it at all. In other words, we should be thankful that we are even allowed to write as we do. Many other Christians are being horribly persecuted for their faith in ways we cannot imagine in other parts of the world.
 
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If you wrote a long message under the power of the Spirit and someone tried to tear it apart, you would think of it as your baby too. Yes God did it, but He did it through you...not only did you put in hours of work but it is the result of all the pain and suffering you've been through.
 
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I am on a tablet right now and would have to go to the library for the computer to make it easier for me to form a rebuttal the way I want to...and time there is limited to a little less than two hours a day. So I am trying to defend my document as simply as possible with the resources at my disposal.
 
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So in your opinion his views are not sent forth from God? Judge not, that ye be not judged...for you will be judged according to the same measure that ye mete out judgment! (continued from post #65)

You said you wrote the article. Why are you acting as if it is not your own now?
I am also not judging you (i.e. the author), but I am judging the belief that I do not agree with. For have you ever disagreed with other people's beliefs and called them wrong?
 
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If you wrote a long message under the power of the Spirit and someone tried to tear it apart, you would think of it as your baby too. Yes God did it, but He did it through you...not only did you put in hours of work but it is the result of all the pain and suffering you've been through.

We should never think that our work is anything compared to the Word of God. There is no "my baby." There is only if it is God's will, then let it be.

As for pain and suffering:
Are you saying you suffered and were in pain when you wrote your article?
For me, writing is a joy and comes natural, but I only want to exalt God and His Word. Any work I do is for Him. There is no... "Hey! That's mine!"
 
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I am on a tablet right now and would have to go to the library for the computer to make it easier for me to form a rebuttal the way I want to...and time there is limited to a little less than two hours a day. So I am trying to defend my document as simply as possible with the resources at my disposal.

I have a wireless keyboard for my tablet and it is very helpful.
For years, that is all I had was a tablet and a wireless bluetooth keyboard.
The apple wireless keyboard is pricey, but it is tough and it lasts a long time.
 
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You said you wrote the article. Why are you acting as if it is not your own now?
I am also not judging you (i.e. the author), but I am judging the belief that I do not agree with. For have you ever disagreed with other people's beliefs and called them wrong?
I was talking about King David. THINK.
 
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I'm not materially wealthy.
I wrote the OP as the result of suffering at the hand of the enemy, and reminding myself of its truths helps to alleviate that suffering. No doubt you are going to judge me again, but my suffering was from sin which the principles in the document are helping me to overcome. First goes the condemnation and then sin has no power over you. Read between the lines in 1 Corinthians 15:56.
 
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I was talking about King David. THINK.

I really don’t like playing guessing games. Please talk to me straight or speak plainly.

Thank you.

Side Note:

Before you referred to the article as being written by someone else and then now you are saying you had wrote it. This is technically lying.
 
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I wrote the OP as the result of suffering at the hand of the enemy, and reminding myself of its truths helps to alleviate that suffering. No doubt you are going to judge me again, but my suffering was from sin which the principles in the document are helping me to overcome. First goes the condemnation and then sin has no power over you. Read between the lines in 1 Corinthians 15:56.

Hebrews 10:26 says,
“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,”
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Solution:

1 John 1:9 says,
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

As for 1 Corinthians 15:56 talking about how the strength of sin is the Law:

I believe this is in reference to the Law of Moses (and not all Law).

First, in 1 Corinthians 9:8-9, Paul mentions the Law of Moses (Which would later play into his mentioning of the Law in 1 Corinthians 15:56).

Second, Paul says this about the Old Law.

"For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter." (Romans 7:5-6).

"But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law." (Galatians 5:18).

"But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!" (Galatians 5:22-23).

"For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." (Romans 8:3-4).
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But it just goes to show that sometimes you don't even understand what you are reading!

If someone does not get what I said, I will try and explain it to them so as to help them. But that is just me.
 
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