Freedom from Sin: Overcoming the Wet Paint Principle (the complete version)

[justbyfaith]

There is nothing secret that shall not be openly revealed one day (Luke 8:17).
Maybe there is a 1% chance that what you said was innocent.
I just know that if you were to do that with your boss or own mother, it would not go over to well with them. If what you believe you said was innocent, then you have my apologies. I just know that I would not do that personally because I would see it as being wrong. The only reason I could think of doing something like that is to save a life or lives (like Jesus did or like certain men did who hid the Jews from the Nazi's in hidden places within their home).



Actually, my goal is not to make this about you. But your belief. The majority of what I had written was not an attack upon you but what you believe. Most of what I had written here in this thread is an attack on the wrong belief and not you. If anything you judged and insulted me several times already (with no apologies). But that's okay. I am used to that.

In any event, may God's love shine upon you this fine evening;
And lets please stick to the topic of discussion at hand.

You disagree with what I believe. Do you think of it as false doctrine? If you, do, then you are calling me a false teacher, and that is a personal attack. The Lord judge between me and you.

 

[justbyfaith]

@Jason0047 wrote, If anything you have insulted and judged me several times.

My response:
Just trying to snap you out of thinking you are perfect.

 

[justbyfaith]

There is nothing secret that shall not be openly revealed one day (Luke 8:17).
Maybe there is a 1% chance that what you said was innocent.
I just know that if you were to do that with your boss or own mother, it would not go over to well with them. If what you believe you said was innocent, then you have my apologies. I just know that I would not do that personally because I would see it as being wrong. The only reason I could think of doing something like that is to save a life or lives (like Jesus did or like certain men did who hid the Jews from the Nazi's in hidden places within their home).



Actually, my goal is not to make this about you. But your belief. The majority of what I had written was not an attack upon you but what you believe. Most of what I had written here in this thread is an attack on the wrong belief and not you. If anything you judged and insulted me several times already (with no apologies). But that's okay. I am used to that.

In any event, may God's love shine upon you this fine evening;
And lets please stick to the topic of discussion at hand.

Maybe a 100% chance, and hes, everything will b brought to light. Judge not according to the outward appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Of course you have to believe in Jesus in order to receive the Holy Spirit. And believing in Jesus isn't the "oldness of the letter". It is necessary for salvation. Whereas Galatians 2:16 and Romans 3:20 tell us that the law doesn't save us...John is saying, If you want to keep a requirement, then do this: believe in Jesus which ought to result in you loving one another. This will fulfill what God requires.

Right, just as not murdering is not of the oldness of the letter. The Law to "Thou shalt not murder" existed before the written Law. After the fall of Adam and Eve, they received the knowledge of good and evil. What knowledge of good and evil did they receive? Nothing? No. The Moral Law that tells you to instinctively to do right without a specific command telling you to do so.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Maybe a 100% chance, and hes, everything will b brought to light. Judge not according to the outward appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

If you believe your motive was 100% innocent, I said before you have my apologies. But if your motives were not pure, then that is between you and God. I just know I would not have done the same because I would have viewed as doing such a thing as being wrong. Why? Because to intentionally mislead (and yet speak the truth) without a good reason (like saving lives) is not right in my view. Maybe it is not wrong for you. That is where you have to search out that answer between you and the Lord. But let's move on. Shall we?

 

[justbyfaith]

yes, everything will be brought to light. It is nearly impossible to go back and edit my posts on this tablet. It doesn't register when I tap it to put the cursor down.

 

[justbyfaith]

Then I am not the only one judging.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

@Jason0047 wrote, If anything you have insulted and judged me several times.

My response:
Just trying to snap you out of thinking you are perfect.

Again, lets not make this about one or the other. Let's stick to the topic at hand, yes?

 

[justbyfaith]

You are nitpicking at such a minute thing it is unbelievable. May the Lord nitpick at all of your minute sins too, so that you know what it feels like.

 

[justbyfaith]

Yes, stick to the topic at hand. What are your problems with chapter 2?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Then I am not the only one judging.

I never said it was wrong to judge. CF merely has rules that say we are not to set out to attack or insult another poster. You have insulted me. I have not insulted you. I am merely telling you what I feel is correct in a non-insulting manner. There is the difference. But please stop. Please address the topic of the thread and do not try to make this about me and you. If you do, I will strive to ignore your personal comments against me.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You are nitpicking at such a minute thing it is unbelievable. May the Lord nitpick at all of your minute sins too, so that you know what it feels like.

Please address the topic of the thread and not me.

 

[justbyfaith]

Right, just as not murdering is not of the oldness of the letter. The Law to "Thou shalt not murder" existed before the written Law. After the fall of Adam and Eve, they received the knowledge of good and evil. What knowledge of good and evil did they receive? Nothing? No. The Moral Law that tells you to instinctively to do right without a specific command telling you to do so.

the newness of the spirit in this would be to love your brother. Then you wouldn't murder him.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes, stick to the topic at hand. What are your problems with chapter 2?

I started to read the first few words last night and I have a few verses in mind. I will have to get back to you when I have more time to adequately reply. Currently, I am in an environement at the moment that is a little too disruptive to collect my thoughts properly.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

the newness of the spirit in this would be to love your brother. Then you wouldn't murder him.

Agreed.

But I disagree with your other beginning statement in your article that says you can break God's law and still be saved. I just do not see that in Scripture.

I see Jesus saying things like, "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." (Matthew 5:28-30).

I see John saying things like,

"Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15).

 

[Bible Highlighter]

yes, everything will be brought to light. It is nearly impossible to go back and edit my posts on this tablet. It doesn't register when I tap it to put the cursor down.

Just know that I have no ill will towards you, friend. I am not seeking to push you on the ground and laugh at you. I was bullied at school. So I know how it feels. I do not like to be bullied myself or insulted. So I do unto others as I want to be treated. But to say something in love to another brother is another matter. I hope you will not see ill of me because of anything I said to you (Besides our differences of beliefs). But we should not make this thread about me or you but we should stick to the topic at hand.

As for your tablet issues:
I am sorry to hear that.
I remember having issues with my Ipad in the past where after I had written everything down, the browser would crash and I would lose all my work. These days I try to back up my work at Google Documents (Which is free as long as you sign up with a Gmail account).

When I first bought my Galaxy Tablet 12.2 (Which I financed because I wanted a good size tablet to read properly from), I had issues with the screen going blue a lot. But after about 6-8 months it was fixed due to an update by Android.

Anyways, may the Lord bless you to have something better;
And may you please be well today.

 

[justbyfaith]

Not to mention you haven't succeeded at showing that chapter 1 is false, which is what you have set out to do. I'm going to pray, because I know these principles have brought freedom in my life, and I feel that you are doing the work of the enemy in trying to prevent others from implementing these principles in theirs.

 

[justbyfaith]

Mine just crashed on me, which brought a delay in my response.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You disagree with what I believe. Do you think of it as false doctrine? If you, do, then you are calling me a false teacher, and that is a personal attack. The Lord judge between me and you.

I strive not to judge. You will not see me set out to attack another poster or insult them. If somebody starts to try and make it about me, I may respond back in a way that judges what they are doing as not being exactly correct. But I seek to do this in love and not out of any kind of hate. I also try to steer the dicussion back on course to the topic at hand, as well. We should love one another even if we may find each other's beliefs as being wrong, etc.

I don't make the rules at CF and I know that this was properly brought up to them. But I also see their side that not attacking posters is a good rule to have. It keeps the peace while the doctrine of truth can be debated in kind, loving, and respectful manner. Granted, I am not perfect, and I will reply sometimes (like in this thread) if I feel something is not what I think is right. It is only natural to want to defend what we think is good and right. But I have to reign this in when speaking to others here because there are rules at CF that restrict me from doing so. I am not perfect. But I strive to be perfect for the Lord every day because He is so amazing, loving, and good to us all.

 

[justbyfaith]

Agreed.

But I disagree with your other beginning statement in your article that says you can break God's law and still be saved. I just do not see that in Scripture.

I see Jesus saying things like, "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." (Matthew 5:28-30).

I see John saying things like,

"Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15).

We are not justified by the law according to Romans 3:20 and Galatians 2:16. It follows that, since the law does not save us, it would not necessarily condemn us if we fail to keep it. We are not saved by law-keeping but by faith in Jesus Christ.