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Fleeing to Mars not of God

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Because I don't find his existence credible. Do you seriously not understand what it means that I don't believe in your god?
All the more reason not to argue with Him. You say you think there is none to argue with. From all we know of what he said though, He is with me in this issue
 
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So the human who told us the savior would be born of a virgin made it up?
You know that how?
Same way I know Helen of Troy wasn’t the product of Zeus turning into a swan and seducing women.
 
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Same way I know Helen of Troy wasn’t the product of Zeus turning into a swan and seducing women.
Sons of god did marry women in the past. Angels can assume disguises as well. Jesus being born in a specific little own on earth to a virgin is not a vague claim. It was a specific prediction that happened. You don't get to wave away reality using a disdain of fables.
 
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Sons of god did marry women in the past. Angels can assume disguises as well.

lol, wow.

Jesus being born in a specific little own on earth to a virgin is not a vague claim. It was a specific prediction that happened.

Allegedly.

You don't get to wave away reality using a disdain of fables.

Wait, I thought you just said the swan thing could have happened. Is it a fable or not?
 
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So the human who told us the savior would be born of a virgin made it up? You know that how?
That would be "Matthew". We know it because we can read Isiah 7 (the whole thing) and see that the prophesied child was not a savior, but as a marker of his young future for when the lands of the kings enemies will be abandoned. (This on is just an irrelevant prophecy, not a fake one.)
 
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Allegedly.
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Wait, I thought you just said the swan thing could have happened. Is it a fable or not?
It could have had some bits of truth in it, or not. As I mentioned God's angels can be unrecognizable. In disguise. We could meet one and never know it. So I do not see it as impossible that even a fallen angel could adopt some sort of disguise. Who really knows? The bible does say Satan's messengers appear as beings of light. Then there are the wolves disguised as sheep. Then there are angels that some see and others do not at the same time. Etc. In the past there also were sons of god that came into the world and married women. I couldn't say if some twisted word of mouth passed on stories of that time may have existed and became legends or whatever. I kind of doubt it but who really knows?
 
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That would be "Matthew". We know it because we can read Isiah 7 (the whole thing) and see that the prophesied child was not a savior, but as a marker of his young future for when the lands of the kings enemies will be abandoned.
Actually it was a message to the house of David from which the messiah would come.



Isaiah 7:13
And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?





Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

That means Lord with us. In others words a virgin would bear God's Son.
 
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I'm arguing with *YOU*. No one else.
Yet you actually argue against the Scriptures I quoted. No? Your attempt to say that is me are noted.
Just you.
No. God
I don't care how many other entities you claim are with you. It is your arguments and presented evidence that matters.
Back to the topic then I guess. I don't think God likes rich people wasting and wasting and wasting while the poor starve. Would you agree that is a pretty basic biblical concept?
 
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Alleged witness.

It could have had some bits of truth in it, or not. As I mentioned God's angels can be unrecognizable. In disguise. We could meet one and never know it. So I do not see it as impossible that even a fallen angel could adopt some sort of disguise. Who really knows? The bible does say Satan's messengers appear as beings of light. Then there are the wolves disguised as sheep. Then there are angels that some see and others do not at the same time. Etc. In the past there also were sons of god that came into the world and married women. I couldn't say if some twisted word of mouth passed on stories of that time may have existed and became legends or whatever. I kind of doubt it but who really knows?
The modern worshippers of the old gods at least tend to not defend all the silliness from their stories. Guess disbelief in supernatural things is so bad even the claims from other pantheons need to be defended as happening in some way.
 
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Actually it was a message to the house of David from which the messiah would come.



Isaiah 7:13
And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?





Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

That means Lord with us. In others words a virgin would bear God's Son.
Remind me what this has to do with space exploration ?
 
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Yet you actually argue against the Scriptures I quoted. No? Your attempt to say that is me are noted.
Only because you replied to my pair of posts in opposite order. I hadn't argued with your "scriptures" when I wrote that and had no intention to do so, but...
No. God

Back to the topic then I guess. I don't think God likes rich people wasting and wasting and wasting while the poor starve. Would you agree that is a pretty basic biblical concept?
 
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Is that a definition of worship? In this context? Really?
Paul asserted, "Your master is the one you obey," and I think that is a pertinent truism.

I find it worth examining myself after taking an action, particularly one that proved to be a mistake, "Who or what was I obeying when I took that particular action?" Most often, it was some internal urge or fear--my bad self--that I had obeyed.
 
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Actually it was a message to the house of David from which the messiah would come.



Isaiah 7:13
And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?





Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

That means Lord with us. In others words a virgin would bear God's Son.
And what do the next two verses say and mean?
 
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Information is a weapon. Also, the MERVs used to be up there and were weapons. With treaties and secrecy I doubt we have access to a list of actual weapons now up there. If history is any indication, we can be fairly certain there are or/and will be more.
All the weapons were down here.

You can't just position a nuke in orbit and leave it there. Nukes have to be maintained and even switched out periodically.
 
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All the weapons were down here.

You can't just position a nuke in orbit and leave it there. Nukes have to be maintained and even switched out periodically.
I'm just about done with this bald assertion guy. The arguments are BAD.
 
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