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Fleeing to Mars not of God

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Alleged witness.
No. Many have names. Peter for example. Do you allege that there was no Peter? Napoleon?
The modern worshippers of the old gods at least tend to not defend all the silliness from their stories. Guess disbelief in supernatural things is so bad even the claims from other pantheons need to be defended as happening in some way.
Yes spirits both good and bad are very real
 
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Remind me what this has to do with space exploration ?
The ethics of blowing billions of dollars up a tube to space while neglecting people on earth involves God. That has been established in the thread. The waste. The lack of love for mankind. The chicken little attempts to flee earth etc. One poster wanted to wave God away from the thread by a silly false claim that prophesies in the bible were useless and vague. That is why I devoted a few replies to dealing with the canard.
 
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What, no bill?

I am sure Peter had lots of bills. Probably why he backslid and went back to fishing fish instead of men one time
Yeah like I said accepting disbelief in supernatural claims must be so corrosive to your views you have to defend fables from other religions too.
I simply pointed out that we are in no real position to dismiss out of hand all stories or claims that involve spiritual activity, even when it comes to bad spirits.
 
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Only because you replied to my pair of posts in opposite order. I hadn't argued with your "scriptures" when I wrote that and had no intention to do so, but...
But...now you feel liberated to do so?
 
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The ethics of blowing billions of dollars up a tube to space while neglecting people on earth involves God.
That has been established in the thread. The waste. The lack of love for mankind. The chicken little attempts to flee earth etc.

Again, your deity isn’t involved in the thought process of those making such plans.
 
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And what do the next two verses say and mean?
It does not matter. Prophesy tends to be surrounded by other verses dealing with matters of the earlier time. It seems to be a modis operendi of God's
 
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All the weapons were down here.
Far as we know. I take claims with a grain of salt.
You can't just position a nuke in orbit and leave it there. Nukes have to be maintained and even switched out periodically.
So? There are other weapons you know.
 
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Paul asserted, "Your master is the one you obey," and I think that is a pertinent truism.

I find it worth examining myself after taking an action, particularly one that proved to be a mistake, "Who or what was I obeying when I took that particular action?" Most often, it was some internal urge or fear--my bad self--that I had obeyed.
In the case of the chicken little crowd trying to flee earth then, the thing they obey is the impulse to flee earth
 
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It does not matter. Prophesy tends to be surrounded by other verses dealing with matters of the earlier time. It seems to be a modis operendi of God's
It doesn't, really? Even when the first of those (v 15) starts with "He" referring to the just named and predicted "Immanuel"? Seriously, don't dodge this.
 
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They are not members of your religion and have said nothing about your deity being a part of their plans.
He is a part of more than you seem to think. The people I had in mind though were bible writers. As far as pagan dreamers and storytellers, all I said about that was that there could be something to spiritual experiences, even by bad spirits.
 
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It doesn't, really?
It does really
Even when the first of those (v 15) starts with "He" referring to the just named and predicted "Immanuel"? Seriously, don't dodge this.
By 15 the prophesy id over. For your information a prophesy does not need to cover whole books or chapters. Not at all. Sometimes in the middle of a verse it propels thousands of years into a different time.
 
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That's a lot of resources to plunk into developing a tourist destination.

For billionaire tourists at that.
The technological direction will be so regular people can afford to go. But it will take a long time.
 
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