Donald Caught "Lying" About Id

[majj27]

Important update. I just returned to work after buying some groceries for tonight's dinner. I was somehow able to do it without showing ID. Sometimes I even impress myself.

Henceforth, I shall be called "MAJJ27 THE AMAZING, HE WHO MAKES THE IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE."

 

[DaisyDay]

And since you bring it up, that's another example of how this is nothing more than faultfinding gone extreme.

You know as well as I do, that there was nothing about national security, elections, the Supreme Court, or anything of that gravity there. It was about grocery shopping (!) and was only one of several examples given in that sentence.

You weren't paying attention to the context of the speech then if you think it was about grocery shopping and not about elections. No, Albion, it was about voting, not shopping. Donald said if you can't buy groceries without photo id, then why should you be allowed to vote without one. He was providing context, sloppily and hopelessly flawed.

Obama, by comparison, claimed that there are 57 states. No one was permitted to call him a LIAR! because of that.

And yet, here you are, 10 years later, attempting to do just that...who is stopping you? Your own common sense, I would hope.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

President Trump wasn't lying. A photo ID is needed in Ohio for buying groceries when someone is using Food Stamps. See the following article:

Ohio House passes bill that would put ID photos on food stamp cards

Also, an ID is needed when someone buys alcohol or tobacco products when they look young.

This appears to have been in effect less than a year. I live in Ohio and wasn't aware of it.

It still proves that what President Trump said is true.

The people who called the president a liar owe him an apology.

 

[camille70]

Important update. I just returned to work after buying some groceries for tonight's dinner. I was somehow able to do it without showing ID. Sometimes I even impress myself.

Henceforth, I shall be called "MAJJ27 THE AMAZING, HE WHO MAKES THE IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE."

You were waited on by a paid liberal crises actor only in place to make DT look bad.

 

[DaisyDay]

President Trump wasn't lying. A photo ID is needed in Ohio for buying groceries when someone is using Food Stamps. See the following article:

Ohio House passes bill that would put ID photos on food stamp cards

Also, an ID is needed when someone buys alcohol or tobacco products when they look young.

It still proves that what President Trump said is true.

He said, categorically, that people need photo ids to buy groceries, when, in some other state, certain people in certain circumstances might need to - which makes it pretty much false. The same people can, in fact, buy the groceries without any id whatsoever if they have the cash - and you know this; did Donald know this?

The people who called the president a liar owe him an apology.

Naw, he lies all the time about things large and petty.

 

[USincognito]

And since you bring it up, that's another example of how this is nothing more than faultfinding gone extreme.

There goes another irony meter.

You know as well as I do, that there was nothing about national security, elections, the Supreme Court, or anything of that gravity there. It was about grocery shopping (!) and was only one of several examples given in that sentence.

As Daisy pointed out, the context was voter ID. And he was simply lying when he said you need ID in order by groceries so it was a poor analogy to begin with.

Obama, by comparison, claimed that there are 57 states. No one was permitted to call him a LIAR! because of that.

Actually President Obama never claimed that there are 57 states. He misspoke during the primaries about travelling to 57 states with one more. I posted this back in 2016.
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>>"... it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 monthswe've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in fifty ....seven states? I think one left to go. One left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit but my staff would not justify it." <<

57 + "one to go" = 58
But he also mentions Alaska (a state since 1959) and Hawaii (also a state since 1959), therefore 60.

I know the "57 states" meme is very popular in the Conservisphere, but he simply did not say there are 57 states.

No one was permitted to call him a LIAR! because of that.

And yet 9 years later folks are still talking about it.

 

[whatbogsends]

It still proves that what President Trump said is true.

The people who called the president a liar owe him an apology.

No, at best it appears that his statement was a half-truth.

Obama's "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" statement was at least as true as Trump's "you need ID to buy groceries" statement.

They're either both lies or both true. Considering that the right has made Obama's "you can keep your doctor" claim as the height of his dishonesty, and that Trump's ID claim is barely worth mentioning within the context of Trump's lies, it's clear that those who try to claim Trump is no more dishonest than Obama are, themselves, dishonest.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

He said, categorically, that people need photo ids to buy groceries, when, in some other state, certain people in certain circumstances might need to - which makes it pretty much false. The same people can, in fact, buy the groceries without any id whatsoever if they have the cash - and you know this; did Donald know this?

Naw, he lies all the time about things large and petty.

The video you posted in the OP is heavily edited.

 

[KCfromNC]

Ah! Cash! Something the banks no longer give to certain people who have demonstrated a history of financial irresponsibility. I fully understand now.

American banks, at least.

 

[Albion]

Actually President Obama never claimed that there are 57 states. He misspoke during the primaries about travelling to 57 states with one more.

Well, that is a statement that says there are 57 states.

But of course that is not to be held against him. Not HIM!

For him, every alibi imaginable will be used, including saying it wasn't what he meant and that it was just a misstatement. None of that is permitted in Trumps case. If Trump had said the exact same thing, he would have been called an idiot, a threat to democracy, and a liar for a week until they found something else to focus on.

 

[USincognito]

Well, that is a statement that says there are 57 states.

Except your assertion was that he claimed there are 57 states. He did not claim any such thing.

But of course that is not to be hel against him. Not HIM! qHwH~e
!, its just a misstatement. But if Trump ha sai the exact same thing, he woul have been calle an iiot an a liar for a week until they foun something else to focus on.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The video you posted in the OP is heavily edited.

Oh Dear God!

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The video you posted in the OP is heavily edited.

It was streamed live for crying out loud. Stop with the easily refuted lies.


It is at minute 39:36 from this pro Trump FOX news source. The whole one hour, nine minutes, and thirty two seconds.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

It was streamed live for crying out loud. Stop with the easily refuted lies.


It is at minute 39:36 from this pro Trump FOX news source. The whole one hour, nine minutes, and thirty two seconds.

The AP reduced a one hour speech down to less than two minutes. And they want everyone to judge the president on that cherry-picked little bit of video. I think that's unfair and dishonest. But it's typical of what the anti-trump media does. Fox News is apparently the only news source who will let the American people see the president's whole speech unfiltered.

 

[camille70]

The AP reduced a one hour speech down to less than two minutes. And they want everyone to judge the president on that cherry-picked little bit of video. I think that's unfair and dishonest. But it's typical of what the anti-trump media does. Fox News is apparently the only news source who will let the American people see the president's whole speech unfiltered.

No one is going to make viewers scroll through an hour plus video to discuss a 2-3 minute segment. If a site is representing an edited video as his entire remarks, that is dishonest, not not narrowing down video to what is relevant to their subject.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

No one is going to make viewers scroll through an hour plus video to discuss a 2-3 minute segment. If a site is representing an edited video as his entire remarks, that is dishonest, not not narrowing down video to what is relevant to their subject.

President Trump was speaking off-the-cuff. It should not be treated otherwise.

But the media doesn't play fair with Trump.

 

[camille70]

Well, that is a statement that says there are 57 states.

But of course that is not to be held against him. Not HIM!

For him, every alibi imaginable will be used, including saying it wasn't what he meant and that it was just a misstatement. None of that is permitted in Trumps case. If Trump had said the exact same thing, he would have been called an idiot, a threat to democracy, and a liar for a week until they found something else to focus on.

In order to compare what Obama did to what Trump does, Obama would have had to misspoke, and then when asked about it, his spokesman would have had to convince the public he was right to save face. "Well on one day he visited Dakota all over the state. The next day he visited the Carolinas all over the state. Then the day after he visited North Dakota and North Carolina. Then he visited South Dakota and South Carolina. I don't know if you know, but visiting Carolina, NC and SC is essentially three states right there. And he didn't just go to West Virginia, he went to North, South, and East Virgina, too East Dakota, East Carolina. So essentially he spoke accurately."

When Obama misspoke about the insurance he was not intentionally misleading anyone. DT and SHS gets corrected and want to make excuses as to why the correction is invalid.

 

[camille70]

President Trump was speaking off-the-cuff. It should not be treated otherwise.

But the media doesn't play fair with Trump.

If Trump would ever acknowledge he misspoke, we wouldn't have this. I agree he gets beat up more for these little insignificant errors, however part of that is due to the antics he and his staff go through trying to make it appear as though he is flawless and meant to do that. People get a perverse pleasure out of watching people squirm.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

If Trump would ever acknowledge he misspoke, we wouldn't have this. I agree he gets beat up more for these little insignificant errors, however part of that is due to the antics he and his staff go through trying to make it appear as though he is flawless and meant to do that. People get a perverse pleasure out of watching people squirm.

It was an off-the-cuff remark. This so-called news is a tempest in a teapot.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

It was an off-the-cuff remark. This so-called news is a tempest in a teapot.

I agree we shouldn't invest too much time into this one, tiny gaffe. Trump supporters should just accept the obvious fact that Trump probably isn't too familiar with the grocery shopping experience like us regular Americans are and move on.