DOJ finds no evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome: Attorney General Bill Barr

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The dominion user guide is online, and it was designed to steal elections, per a litany of computer and ex military intelligence officers who’ve testified and given sworn affidavits about, and per chapter 11 of the user guide which shows how it’s done, in black and white.

Dominion user guide


https://www.oann.com/files/UG-RTR-UserGuide-5-11-CO.pdf#page77


Look at chapter 11 which shows how to manipulate votes.


Look for the RCV (ranked choice voting) Method: This will select the specific method of tabulating RCV votes to elect a winner, the following methods of cheating are supported:


• IRV: Instant Runoff-Voting.


• STV: Single Transferable Voting, more specifically the Weighted Inclusive Gregory Method, which implements fractional surplus transfer of elected candidates.


• Points IRV: a modified form of Instant Run-off Voting where ranked choice voting results are evaluated on a district per district basis and each district has a set number of points (100). Elimination and declaration of winners is done on basis of points, not votes.

This isn't even a good claim of the machines not being reliable. Each of these things you list are ways that various democracies/republics run elections. For an example, the State of Maine uses the Instant Run-Off variation of Ranked Choice Voting (RCV). This isn't anything fraudulent, rather, it is a way to ensure the winner of the election, in an election with more than two candidates, when none of them get 50% of the total vote on the first ballot -- that in other states would require a run off. Single Transferable Vote is yet another valid way to decide elections, another form of RCV. There is nothing fraudulent about either of these.

This is one of the prime examples of "voter fraud" that are started based on ignorance, and then repeated (typically with the use of "scare terms") to generate outrage in others. Chapter 11 has nothing on how to manipulate votes. It is about like saying that a car with an electronic dashboard, where the car can switch between the English system of measurements (Miles, miles per hour, miles per gallon) and can also show metric (kilometers, kilometers per hour, liters per 100/km), is somehow fraudulent because you can switch between the different measurement systems.
 
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Things add up.

The Democrats in those six crooked cities they control pulled out all the stops and used every way to produce fake votes, here’s a list from Georgia of illegal ballots:

2,506 felons voted
66,248 under age not old enough
2,423 not registered
1,400 cast ballots po. box
4,926 council registration
10,315 dead voted
395 ballots cast in another state
15,700 change address
40,270 moved county lines.

BTW they released a video from security cameras in GA showing that after they lied and cleared everyone out because of a water main break that never happened, four people stayed behind, and when the coast was clear, pulled out suitcases full of ballots hidden under a table, and entered then into the system unsupervised by any poll watchers, for several hours.

That’s some more of the evidence that “doesn’t exist” according to the fake stream media.

Breaking Video of Georgia Testimony on Voter Fraud Exposes Mountains of Illegal Votes and Fraud Caught on Video

Things do add up when you add claims without evidence, and then assign motivation to any discrepancy.

Actually i got that backwards. You guys have assigned motivation first - the first fact that Trump supporters start with is "The Democrats definitely committed fraud", and then any information that comes forward has to fit into that paradigm.

Trump was claiming fraud before a single vote was cast, and - to the surprise of absolutely no one - his supporters are bleating out his claims as if they are gospel.
 
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But that is just it, in Georgia they did a hand count of all ballots with observers present. The recount, done by people counting the printed ballots, without using the Dominion machines, showed the same result as the machine count.

They continue to throw the full gish-gallop at the wall, hoping something will stick. The problem for them is that their claims not only are unsupported by evidence, they also contradict each other.

You are correct that if there were votes switched by Dominion machines, a hand count would absolutely identify a major discrepancy. To date, they have not done so at all. Yet they repeat this claim as well as countless other debunked claims.
 
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The dominion user guide is online

Blah blah blah.

You just got through telling us the hand recount was irrelevant, since it was recounting the same mix of authentic and fraudulent ballots. This implies that some of the voters were the fraudulent ones, and the machines were accurately recording votes from people who were authorized to vote, as well as voters with some kind of fraudulent credentials. So the voting machine is innocent. You should focus on trying to find evidence of these fraudulent voters.

You obviously do not know about the QR code problem.

Each printout has the name of the candidate selected printed on it, but it puts a QR code on it with a candidates name on it, that you can’t read.

If the ballot printout is scanned later for a recount, only the QR code is read, not the printed name on it

In Georgia, they did a hand recount of all presidential ballots. Human beings with eyeballs did the counting, using the human-readable text.
 
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Blah blah blah.

You just got through telling us the hand recount was irrelevant, since it was recounting the same mix of authentic and fraudulent ballots. This implies that some of the voters were the fraudulent ones, and the machines were accurately recording votes from people who were authorized to vote, as well as voters with some kind of fraudulent credentials. So the voting machine is innocent. You should focus on trying to find evidence of these fraudulent voters.

In Georgia, they did a hand recount of all presidential ballots. Human beings with eyeballs did the counting, using the human-readable text.

Added some emphasis of my own. Full agreement with what you've said. They continue to push multiple narratives which contradict each other.

Additionally, this "quest for the truth" that the Trump supports are engaged in just happens to only pertain to states which went for Biden by a smaller margin. If these truth seekers are truly looking for the truth, then why aren't they focusing on North Carolina and Florida? The answer is easy - this isn't a quest for the truth, it's an effort to overturn an election.
 
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Dominion user guide


https://www.oann.com/files/UG-RTR-UserGuide-5-11-CO.pdf#page77


Look at chapter 11 which shows how to manipulate votes.


Look for the RCV (ranked choice voting) Method: This will select the specific method of tabulating RCV votes to elect a winner, the following methods of cheating are supported:


• IRV: Instant Runoff-Voting.


• STV: Single Transferable Voting, more specifically the Weighted Inclusive Gregory Method, which implements fractional surplus transfer of elected candidates.


• Points IRV: a modified form of Instant Run-off Voting where ranked choice voting results are evaluated on a district per district basis and each district has a set number of points (100). Elimination and declaration of winners is done on basis of points, not votes.

You say "online" but the rest of us notice that this if from the propagandist site "oann". How do we know it is a real or recent manual for the dominion machines?

None of these voting methods are used in US presidential elections.
 
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Steven Miller, who specializes in analytic number theory and sabermetrics, said that one instance of possible fraud involved potential votes that weren’t counted and another instance involved ballots that may have been requested by a person other than the GOP-registered voter.

Ooh, sabermetrics!!! Maybe he could help the Trump team with their batting average.
 
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Ooh, sabermetrics!!! Maybe he could help the Trump team with their batting average.

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Oh, there’s a truckload alrighty!

They just spent six hours presenting “the evidence that doesn’t exist” to the GA state legislature.


The PA state legislature has filed legal paperwork telling Congress that the electoral votes are in dispute, after hearing hours of testimony of “non existent evidence” of election fraud.
 
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But that is just it, in Georgia they did a hand count of all ballots with observers present. The recount, done by people counting the printed ballots, without using the Dominion machines, showed the same result as the machine count.

The GA recount was a joke. They still refused to use signature matching, which is essential to use on mail in ballots, as stated by Jimmy Carter and Obama in the past, and still kept republican observers from any meaningful observation of the process.
 
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Remember to keep posting that when Trump is sworn in as POTUS next year.
Lol! Trump lost. This is so sad because you cannot seem to find any evidence. Once again, claims are not evidence. Evidence consists reliable observations that support a specific claim. A six hour video on its own is not evidence.
 
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They just spent six hours presenting “the evidence that doesn’t exist” to the GA state legislature.


The PA state legislature has filed legal paperwork telling Congress that the electoral votes are in dispute, after hearing hours of testimony of “non existent evidence” of election fraud.

No, the Pennsylvania legislature has done no such thing. Instead, members of the PA House of Representatives and a member of the PA Senate have introduced resolutions (House Resolution 1094 and Senate Resolution 410) that dispute the election results. Neither bill has been voted on, rather, both were referred to a committee. In this case, when bills like this are proposed and referred to committee, that typically means they are "dead" and won't be voted on.

If there was support for these resolutions, the House and Senate would have held votes on the resolutions rather than sending them to committee.
 
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The GA recount was a joke. They still refused to use signature matching, which is essential to use on mail in ballots, as stated by Jimmy Carter and Obama in the past, and still kept republican observers from any meaningful observation of the process.
What good would "signature matching" do? And they did put the ballots through signature verification. Once verified the ballot has to be separated from the envelope. Do you understand this?
 
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The PA state legislature has filed legal paperwork telling Congress that the electoral votes are in dispute, after hearing hours of testimony of “non existent evidence” of election fraud.

Has it now? As an official act of the body? I doubt it.

A few members does not equal the whole body acting in an official capacity. If the PA leg. acts there will be some sort of resolution *passed* (not just proposed).
 
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The GA recount was a joke. They still refused to use signature matching, which is essential to use on mail in ballots, as stated by Jimmy Carter and Obama in the past, and still kept republican observers from any meaningful observation of the process.

The claim is that Dominion machines switched votes. A hand recount - signature matching or not - would show that there was an inconsistency that indicates Dominion switched votes. The recount happened, and showed that machine vote switching didn't happen, yet Trump, Rudy, and all of Trump's sycophants continue to push that lie.

The joke is Trump supporters pretending that they care about "election integrity", when what they really want is Trump to get a 2nd term.
 
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The GA recount was a joke. They still refused to use signature matching, which is essential to use on mail in ballots, as stated by Jimmy Carter and Obama in the past, and still kept republican observers from any meaningful observation of the process.

The ballots themselves do not have signatures on them -- you know, the whole "secret ballot" concept. So not sure how signature matching would help.

At the same time, keep your claims straight -- the claim I was replying to was that the Dominion voting machines "stole" votes from Trump, your claim that the QR codes do not necessarily match the name printed on the ballot. This is what the hand recount proved -- and why the hand recount was requested by the Trump campaign. The hand recount proved that the actual physical ballots matched the count provided by the Dominion voting machines -- that there was no voting machine fraud, but that the machines provided an accurate count.

The claim that Georgia did not adequately perform signature matching is a separate claim and, from what I've seen, not one grounded in facts.
 
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The ballots themselves do not have signatures on them -- you know, the whole "secret ballot" concept. So not sure how signature matching would help.

At the same time, keep your claims straight -- the claim I was replying to was that the Dominion voting machines "stole" votes from Trump, your claim that the QR codes do not necessarily match the name printed on the ballot. This is what the hand recount proved -- and why the hand recount was requested by the Trump campaign. The hand recount proved that the actual physical ballots matched the count provided by the Dominion voting machines -- that there was no voting machine fraud, but that the machines provided an accurate count.

The claim that Georgia did not adequately perform signature matching is a separate claim and, from what I've seen, not one grounded in facts.
When one story does not work change the details and make the same claim all over again. That is the new Republican strategy.
 
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