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"Weaponisation of the DOJ" seems to be a hot phrase being parroted about in USA right wing circles.

But what does that actually mean?

It comes down to levels of weaponisation. It isn't just yes its weaponised or no it's not.
I don't even like that term "weaponisation" It's very hyperbolic and seems to be solely used to put the audience into a state of fear.

Idealistically Lady Justice is supposed to be blind. No one is supposed to be able to press down and tilt the scales in their favour.
The person leading the justice department is typically a political person (a member of the ruling party, assigned to the position by the president or prime minister), but their job is to manage the DOJ machine, not to make it favourable for their party or leader and aggressive to opposition parties. They are there to support governance, funding and policy, not to make operational decisions e.g which case to take up and which not to. They can get involved in special circumstances to which they ought to appoint a Special Council and this Special Council is to be an independent highly qualified professional rather than a party member politician.

So to this regard the department are supposed to follow general policy and procedures and apply the law to incidences of crimes or potential crimes regardless of who the suspect or criminal is.
It helps if the AG steers clear of being the person to make operational decisions, stick to governance, stay out of operations.

In some dictator like countries, their head of DOJ equivalent has a close relationship with the president/prime minister and locks up on trumped up charges, the president/prime minister's political opposition and journalists and people that dissent. This is done in many countries. Russia for example, were locking people up for criticising Putin or even calling the Ukraine war a war.

So far in USA, no one has gone to that extreme.
D Trump campaigned on "Lock her up" with regards to H Clinton. It became a rally chant at his political rallies. It was a campaign promise. It was highly inappropriate for the presidential candidate to suggest he would interfere in the Justice system and to direct them towards investigating or charging Hilary. It was highly inappropriate for D Trump and his campaign members to claim that Hilary was guilty and to chant lock her up. In free world democracies there is a process before a person is determined as guilty, and people should expect presidents and presidential candidates to respect that process.
Perhaps in the imaginative and highly hopeful minds of some of Trump's most ardent MAGA fans they imagined and wanted Trump on first day of presidency to tap his AG on the shoulder and have the AG then send in the cops to arrest Hilary and throw her in jail. I expect those MAGA fans would have been totally fine with that and were probably disappointed that he didn't do this.
But ultimately the campaign promise went unfulfilled. H Clinton was no longer a threat anyway as the election was over and D Trump had won. It was all just hyperbolic bluster.

The FBI during the end of Obama's last term had started Hurricane Crossfire, an investigation into members of the D Trump campaign and whether they had illegally conspired with Russians in the Russian USA election interference campaign.
The DOJ didn't get involved until after D Trump took control of the white house and fired the FBI director in an attempt to kill the investigation. (This act was dictator like. President's should not look to interfere into FBI, CIA, or DOJ investigations). But anyway, the Republican acting Attorney General then recruited a Special Council to continue with this investigation (except only investigate non D Trump members of the D Trump campaign) and to also investigate if anyone helped D Trump with obstruction of Justice. The constraint that the acting AG put on Mueller was that he was not to indict the sitting president, so at no point did the investigation seek to charge D Trump with anything.

All the while the investigation went on D Trump continually spoke in front of cameras to undermine the investigation, continually and disgracefully calling it a witch hunt.
Somehow D Trump supporters and Right wing propaganda media tried to spin the investigation and paint it as the Democrats and MSM going after D Trump. When in fact the investigation was instigated and controlled by the Republicans, and the MSM were simply reporting that the investigation was happening.

D Trump appointed Bill Bar as the AG for the DOJ.
Throughout Bill Barr's tenure as AG for the DOJ he was in close contact with D Trump and spent much of his time running defense and errands for D Trump.
Characterising the Wire Tap as spying
Jumped ahead of the Special Counsel Report to falsely characterise its findings.
Interfering in the Michael Flynn case that the DOJ had, forcing the DOJ to drop the case.
Interfering in the Covid based parole of Michael Cohen, getting him back into prison as retaliation for Cohen legally publishing a book about D Trump
Interfering in the case against Roger Stone. prompting a letter by a Federal Judge
“In past administrations of both political parties, the function of the political appointees at the justice department has been to insulate the rest of the department from political pressure. And Bill Barr instead has become the conduit for that political pressure.”
Refusing to investigate the Ukraine pressure campaign by D Trump and Giuliani to extort Zelenski with urgently needed USA federal property into publicly announce an investigation into Joe Biden.

D Trump demanded from Bill Barr to declare widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election despite no evidence of the fraud, then pressured Bill Barr to quit.
D Trump then demanded Bill Barr's replacement Jeffrey Rosen to submit a letter drafted by Jeffrey Clark to alert state officials falsely stating "that the Justice Department had identified significant concerns that would affect the state's election results"
D Trump then brought in Jeffrey Clark and threatened to fire Rosen and replace him with Clark.
“This evening, after Acting Attorney General Jeff Rosen over the course of the last week repeatedly refused the President’s direct instructions to utilize the Department of Justice’s law enforcement powers for improper ends, the President removed Jeff from the Department,” the draft letter, reviewed by CNN, says.

All of the above would be deemed as gross missuse of the DOJ. Using the DOJ as D Trump's personal department to protect him and his associates from investigations, to attack his "enemies", to try and steal the 2020 election for him.

Then under Biden's presidency, we've had Biden appoint Marrick Garland as his AG to the DOJ.
Biden stated that he would not interfere in any investigations and that he is leaving all upto Garland and the DOJ, he is not going to tell them to investigate D Trump.
When Garland created a Special Council to investigate Joe Biden's son, we have not heard Biden putting down the investigation, not heard him call it a witch hunt.
 

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"Weaponisation of the DOJ" seems to be a hot phrase being parroted about in USA right wing circles.

But what does that actually mean?

It comes down to levels of weaponisation. It isn't just yes its weaponised or no it's not.
I don't even like that term "weaponisation" It's very hyperbolic and seems to be solely used to put the audience into a state of fear.

Idealistically Lady Justice is supposed to be blind. No one is supposed to be able to press down and tilt the scales in their favour.
The person leading the justice department is typically a political person (a member of the ruling party, assigned to the position by the president or prime minister), but their job is to manage the DOJ machine, not to make it favourable for their party or leader and aggressive to opposition parties. They are there to support governance, funding and policy, not to make operational decisions e.g which case to take up and which not to. They can get involved in special circumstances to which they ought to appoint a Special Council and this Special Council is to be an independent highly qualified professional rather than a party member politician.

So to this regard the department are supposed to follow general policy and procedures and apply the law to incidences of crimes or potential crimes regardless of who the suspect or criminal is.
It helps if the AG steers clear of being the person to make operational decisions, stick to governance, stay out of operations.

In some dictator like countries, their head of DOJ equivalent has a close relationship with the president/prime minister and locks up on trumped up charges, the president/prime minister's political opposition and journalists and people that dissent. This is done in many countries. Russia for example, were locking people up for criticising Putin or even calling the Ukraine war a war.

So far in USA, no one has gone to that extreme.
D Trump campaigned on "Lock her up" with regards to H Clinton. It became a rally chant at his political rallies. It was a campaign promise. It was highly inappropriate for the presidential candidate to suggest he would interfere in the Justice system and to direct them towards investigating or charging Hilary. It was highly inappropriate for D Trump and his campaign members to claim that Hilary was guilty and to chant lock her up. In free world democracies there is a process before a person is determined as guilty, and people should expect presidents and presidential candidates to respect that process.
Perhaps in the imaginative and highly hopeful minds of some of Trump's most ardent MAGA fans they imagined and wanted Trump on first day of presidency to tap his AG on the shoulder and have the AG then send in the cops to arrest Hilary and throw her in jail. I expect those MAGA fans would have been totally fine with that and were probably disappointed that he didn't do this.
But ultimately the campaign promise went unfulfilled. H Clinton was no longer a threat anyway as the election was over and D Trump had won. It was all just hyperbolic bluster.

The FBI during the end of Obama's last term had started Hurricane Crossfire, an investigation into members of the D Trump campaign and whether they had illegally conspired with Russians in the Russian USA election interference campaign.
The DOJ didn't get involved until after D Trump took control of the white house and fired the FBI director in an attempt to kill the investigation. (This act was dictator like. President's should not look to interfere into FBI, CIA, or DOJ investigations). But anyway, the Republican acting Attorney General then recruited a Special Council to continue with this investigation (except only investigate non D Trump members of the D Trump campaign) and to also investigate if anyone helped D Trump with obstruction of Justice. The constraint that the acting AG put on Mueller was that he was not to indict the sitting president, so at no point did the investigation seek to charge D Trump with anything.

All the while the investigation went on D Trump continually spoke in front of cameras to undermine the investigation, continually and disgracefully calling it a witch hunt.
Somehow D Trump supporters and Right wing propaganda media tried to spin the investigation and paint it as the Democrats and MSM going after D Trump. When in fact the investigation was instigated and controlled by the Republicans, and the MSM were simply reporting that the investigation was happening.

D Trump appointed Bill Bar as the AG for the DOJ.
Throughout Bill Barr's tenure as AG for the DOJ he was in close contact with D Trump and spent much of his time running defense and errands for D Trump.
Characterising the Wire Tap as spying
Jumped ahead of the Special Counsel Report to falsely characterise its findings.
Interfering in the Michael Flynn case that the DOJ had, forcing the DOJ to drop the case.
Interfering in the Covid based parole of Michael Cohen, getting him back into prison as retaliation for Cohen legally publishing a book about D Trump
Interfering in the case against Roger Stone. prompting a letter by a Federal Judge
“In past administrations of both political parties, the function of the political appointees at the justice department has been to insulate the rest of the department from political pressure. And Bill Barr instead has become the conduit for that political pressure.”
Refusing to investigate the Ukraine pressure campaign by D Trump and Giuliani to extort Zelenski with urgently needed USA federal property into publicly announce an investigation into Joe Biden.

D Trump demanded from Bill Barr to declare widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election despite no evidence of the fraud, then pressured Bill Barr to quit.
D Trump then demanded Bill Barr's replacement Jeffrey Rosen to submit a letter drafted by Jeffrey Clark to alert state officials falsely stating "that the Justice Department had identified significant concerns that would affect the state's election results"
D Trump then brought in Jeffrey Clark and threatened to fire Rosen and replace him with Clark.
“This evening, after Acting Attorney General Jeff Rosen over the course of the last week repeatedly refused the President’s direct instructions to utilize the Department of Justice’s law enforcement powers for improper ends, the President removed Jeff from the Department,” the draft letter, reviewed by CNN, says.

All of the above would be deemed as gross missuse of the DOJ. Using the DOJ as D Trump's personal department to protect him and his associates from investigations, to attack his "enemies", to try and steal the 2020 election for him.

Then under Biden's presidency, we've had Biden appoint Marrick Garland as his AG to the DOJ.
Biden stated that he would not interfere in any investigations and that he is leaving all upto Garland and the DOJ, he is not going to tell them to investigate D Trump.
When Garland created a Special Council to investigate Joe Biden's son, we have not heard Biden putting down the investigation, not heard him call it a witch hunt.
It's pointing the finger at one another (each blaming the other) started with Adam and Eve and continues on.

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It's pointing the finger at one another (each blaming the other) started with Adam and Eve and continues on.
I understand this drive by many on the right to try and paint a picture of "both sides"
And if they generalise everything and don't go into detail and point out specific incidents and their audience doesn't think too hard, doesn't bother looking under the covers, then they can acheive this.

However, if they start having to backup their generalised claims with specifics, much like what poor Comer is having to do with his attempt to impeach Joe Biden, then they end up making fools of themselves by showing that they have absolutely nothing to back up their claims.
 
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"Weaponisation of the DOJ" seems to be a hot phrase being parroted about in USA right wing circles.

But what does that actually mean?
Mostly, it is just another political catch-phrase in order to degrade the government's ability to serve justice, yet weaponizing the DOJ is a real issue not to be overlooked. Accusations of weaponizing the DOJ have come from both sides of the aisle, it just happens to be high on the list of accusations used by the right today because a Democrat is in charge.
 
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D Trump campaigned on "Lock her up" with regards to H Clinton. It became a rally chant at his political rallies. It was a campaign promise. It was highly inappropriate for the presidential candidate to suggest he would interfere in the Justice system and to direct them towards investigating or charging Hilary. It was highly inappropriate for D Trump and his campaign members to claim that Hilary was guilty and to chant lock her up. In free world democracies there is a process before a person is determined as guilty, and people should expect presidents and presidential candidates to respect that process.
Supposedly, Trump threw a tantrum when his first AG told him that he couldn't just order Hillary Clinton arrested. Sessions never recovered from that.

His problem was that Jeff Sessions wasn't crooked enough to do the necessary things. Trump's promising to do a better job of fascism if he's re-elected this time.
 
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Supposedly, Trump threw a tantrum when his first AG told him that he couldn't just order Hillary Clinton arrested. Sessions never recovered from that.

His problem was that Jeff Sessions wasn't crooked enough to do the necessary things. Trump's promising to do a better job of fascism if he's re-elected this time.
Yeah well. He has learned not to use people with principles or ethics or dignity.
But instead to use people that will do anything. Bannon, Miller, Tucker...
 
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D Trump campaigned on "Lock her up" with regards to H Clinton. It became a rally chant at his political rallies. It was a campaign promise. It was highly inappropriate for the presidential candidate to suggest he would interfere in the Justice system and to direct them towards investigating or charging Hilary. It was highly inappropriate for D Trump and his campaign members to claim that Hilary was guilty and to chant lock her up. In free world democracies there is a process before a person is determined as guilty, and people should expect presidents and presidential candidates to respect that process.
We are far, far beyond appropriate. We have not been in that world since well before 2016.
 
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"Weaponisation of the DOJ" seems to be a hot phrase being parroted about in USA right wing circles.

But what does that actually mean?

It comes down to levels of weaponisation. It isn't just yes its weaponised or no it's not.
I don't even like that term "weaponisation" It's very hyperbolic and seems to be solely used to put the audience into a state of fear.

Idealistically Lady Justice is supposed to be blind. No one is supposed to be able to press down and tilt the scales in their favour.
The person leading the justice department is typically a political person (a member of the ruling party, assigned to the position by the president or prime minister), but their job is to manage the DOJ machine, not to make it favourable for their party or leader and aggressive to opposition parties. They are there to support governance, funding and policy, not to make operational decisions e.g which case to take up and which not to. They can get involved in special circumstances to which they ought to appoint a Special Council and this Special Council is to be an independent highly qualified professional rather than a party member politician.

So to this regard the department are supposed to follow general policy and procedures and apply the law to incidences of crimes or potential crimes regardless of who the suspect or criminal is.
It helps if the AG steers clear of being the person to make operational decisions, stick to governance, stay out of operations.

In some dictator like countries, their head of DOJ equivalent has a close relationship with the president/prime minister and locks up on trumped up charges, the president/prime minister's political opposition and journalists and people that dissent. This is done in many countries. Russia for example, were locking people up for criticising Putin or even calling the Ukraine war a war.

So far in USA, no one has gone to that extreme.
D Trump campaigned on "Lock her up" with regards to H Clinton. It became a rally chant at his political rallies. It was a campaign promise. It was highly inappropriate for the presidential candidate to suggest he would interfere in the Justice system and to direct them towards investigating or charging Hilary.

Why? She broke the law.


It was highly inappropriate for D Trump and his campaign members to claim that Hilary was guilty and to chant lock her up. In free world democracies there is a process before a person is determined as guilty, and people should expect presidents and presidential candidates to respect that process.

Where was that process when Colorado removed Trump from the ballot?

There's no due process there. Trump was found guilty of insurrection despite no one actually charging him with insurrection. It's not like Jack Smith can't charge him with insurrection...he can, and would, if he thought he could get a conviction.

He isn't facing any insurrection charges...so why is he removed from the ballot?




Perhaps in the imaginative and highly hopeful minds of some of Trump's most ardent MAGA fans they imagined and wanted Trump on first day of presidency to tap his AG on the shoulder and have the AG then send in the cops to arrest Hilary and throw her in jail. I expect those MAGA fans would have been totally fine with that and were probably disappointed that he didn't do this.

I thought it would have been a bad idea. Apparently, Trump didn't do this for his own reasons.



The FBI during the end of Obama's last term had started Hurricane Crossfire, an investigation into members of the D Trump campaign and whether they had illegally conspired with Russians in the Russian USA election interference campaign.

Sounds like weaponization of the federal government.

Let me ask you something....

The FBI had a confidential informant saying Hunter and Joe took bribes from Burisma. They also had Hunter's laptop, and all the emails and messages sent between Hunter and associates. Why then...would Trump need to ask for the Ukraine to investigate Biden? Why didn't the FBI come forward and tell Trump about the evidence that they had on the Bidens since 2019 and earlier?
 
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Why? She broke the law.
Apparently not. At least Trump's own FBI director thought not. But unlike Russia, where the dictator can merely order people arrested, in America a president cannot do so. Which probably seems odd to you, but there it is.

Where was that process when Colorado removed Trump from the ballot?
Actually it's not for a crime. It's in the Constitution. The 14th Amendment:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

He isn't facing any insurrection charges...so why is he removed from the ballot?
Not necessary. Many of the insurrectionists, after the Civil War, were disqualified for public office, but were not convicted of a crime. One merely had to show that they had acted as listed in the Amendment.

The FBI had a confidential informant saying Hunter and Joe took bribes from Burisma. They also had Hunter's laptop, and all the emails and messages sent between Hunter and associates. Why then...would Trump need to ask for the Ukraine to investigate Biden?
Lack of evidence of a crime. The "informant" had a story that apparently didn't line up with facts. The laptop didn't have any evidence of a crime, nor did any of the emails. So Trump hoped that maybe Zelensky had something.

It was amusing that Comer was strutting about declaring he had a witness, only to have him testify that he saw no criminal activity.

Good enough for an arrest in Russia, but not in a free society.
 
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"Weaponisation of the DOJ" seems to be a hot phrase being parroted about in USA right wing circles.

But what does that actually mean?

It comes down to levels of weaponisation. It isn't just yes its weaponised or no it's not.
I don't even like that term "weaponisation" It's very hyperbolic and seems to be solely used to put the audience into a state of fear.
The term first came into prominence when the GOP falsely claimed the IRS was 'targeting' conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status. As it turned out, the only group whose application was denied was a liberal organization. The whole thing was made-up, but by the time the GOP and Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media finished screaming (about that particular topic), it was one of the right's favorite words.
 
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The FBI had a confidential informant saying Hunter and Joe took bribes from Burisma. They also had Hunter's laptop
What laptop? Do you have a photo of it?

and all the emails and messages sent between Hunter and associates. Why then...would Trump need to ask for the Ukraine to investigate Biden? Why didn't the FBI come forward and tell Trump about the evidence that they had on the Bidens since 2019 and earlier?
What evidence on the Bidens? So far we haven't seen any.

I'm still waiting for a photo of Hunter's alleged laptop.
 
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Apparently not.

Well let's see...

1. She set up a private server for her email both work and private.

2. She received multiple emails containing classified information.

3. She was hacked by Russians.

4. She tried to destroy the server to hide the evidence but unfortunately for her, a 2 year backup of all emails sent to her could be found on the government server she was supposed to be using. This is why the investigation took so long.

Now....maybe that's not a crime to you, I don't know, but those are the facts of her case.




Actually it's not for a crime. It's in the Constitution. The 14th Amendment:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."


Not necessary. Many of the insurrectionists, after the Civil War, were disqualified for public office, but were not convicted of a crime. One merely had to show that they had acted as listed in the Amendment.

Yeah I don't think that's gonna fly here.

If you're going to deny the people a vote...but you aren't going to charge anyone with insurrection....then the judge is offering her opinion and nothing more.



Lack of evidence of a crime. The "informant" had a story that apparently didn't line up with facts. The laptop didn't have any evidence of a crime, nor did any of the emails. So Trump hoped that maybe Zelensky had something.

How do you know that?

Has the FBI concluded their investigation of the laptop?

Last time I saw Wray get asked about it....he said it was still ongoing.



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It was amusing that Comer was strutting about declaring he had a witness, only to have him testify that he saw no criminal activity.

Good enough for an arrest in Russia, but not in a free society.

We'll see.
 
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1. She set up a private server for her email both work and private.
Like the Trumps. You want them prosecuted for that?

2. She received multiple emails containing classified information.
But she didn't keep classified material, or lie to the investigators about it. You want Trump prosecuted for that?

3. She was hacked by Russians.
At Donald Trump's public encouragement. You want him prosecuted for that? It seems pretty dumb to prosecute the victim of a crime and excuse the perpetrator and his accessory.

She tried to destroy the server to hide the evidence
Show us that. Checkable source.

Trump's own FBI director didn't find anything worth prosecuting. And Trump's own AG got a tantrum from Trump when he pointed out that Trump couldn't just have Clinton arrested. At this point, whining "But... but... but whattabout Hillary?" isn't going to save Putin's boy.

Lack of evidence of a crime. The "informant" had a story that apparently didn't line up with facts. The laptop didn't have any evidence of a crime, nor did any of the emails. So Trump hoped that maybe Zelensky had something.

How do you know that?
Republicans had it for months. You think they are covering up for Clinton? Me neither.

It was amusing that Comer was strutting about declaring he had a witness, only to have him testify that he saw no criminal activity.

Good enough for an arrest in Russia, but not in a free society.

We'll see.
We've already seen. But at this point, an obsession with Hillary probably isn't going to save your boy.
 
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But what does that actually mean?

As I recall, the term "weaponization" or "weaponizing" was frequently used by various Bush White House officials to describe the alleged Sadaam Hussein threat in the days leading up to the Iraq invasion ("WMD" as anoother). Since then, the term has been applied more broadly and IMO, misused:

The 2016 presidential election has been a hotbed for weaponization. There’s the weaponization of Jeb Bush’s campaign fundraising, online harassment from Bernie Bros, and grief at the Republican National Convention. Donald Trump has weaponized the issue of trade. Putin has weaponized WikiLeaks against the Clinton operation. On The Diane Rehm Show, psychologist William Doherty cautioned against “weaponizing diagnoses” of mental illness against Donald Trump. And on The Run-Up podcast, conservative radio show host Charlie Sykes lamented how an “alternative reality has been weaponized” by the alt-right media. This weaponization has transformed just about every political act “into a powerful means of gaining advantage,” as Chuck McCutcheon and David Mark argue in their election glossary, Doubletalk.

 
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Like the Trumps. You want them prosecuted for that?

Did they send classified information over that email?


But she didn't keep classified material, or lie to the investigators about it. You want Trump prosecuted for that?

You're 100% wrong here.


At Donald Trump's public encouragement. You want him prosecuted for that?

Nope. There's zero evidence for that....and the level of delusion required to believe it is silly. The FBI began looking into Clinton's servers for a year before FBI Director Comey bothered to make a public statement. The Russian hacking happened before the FBI investigation....not after or during. It didn't happen during the 2016 campaign, and it didn't happen because Trump asked them to do it lol.

What sort of conspiracy theory nonsense have you been reading?


It seems pretty dumb to prosecute the victim of a crime and excuse the perpetrator and his accessory.

The victim of a crime? Did someone put a gun to Hillary Clinton's head and require her to take home 100s of top secret documents?


Show us that. Checkable source.

Sure.


Cooper, according to the report, “did recall two instances where he destroyed Clinton’s old mobile devices by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer.”

I think it's cute the level of ignorance one has to have to not see that as destruction of evidence. Sure...you can believe her claims that she didn't realize that she was receiving 100s of top secret documents in her emails.....or you can believe she destroyed these devices before she realized she was being investigated to prevent them from being hacked or stolen....but you can't believe both. Not without some bizarre excuse where Clinton's aides just enjoy taking a hammer to electronics lol.
Trump's own FBI director didn't find anything worth prosecuting.

Trump didn't appoint Comey.


And Trump's own AG got a tantrum from Trump when he pointed out that Trump couldn't just have Clinton arrested.

Proof?


At this point, whining "But... but... but whattabout Hillary?" isn't going to save Putin's boy.

I'm just pointing out the facts. Corruption is corruption. I don't have to prove Trump's innocence to show that a double standard is clearly being employed here.



Lack of evidence of a crime.

According to FBI Director Wray....it's still under an ongoing investigation.

It has been for 4 years now. There's no real progress made in this investigation either....at least by the FBI. The House GOP has found a lot.


Republicans had it for months. You think they are covering up for Clinton? Me neither.

No idea what you're talking about....you mean the FBI had it for months?


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It was amusing that Comer was strutting about declaring he had a witness, only to have him testify that he saw no criminal activity.

You'll need to be more specific. If the FBI cleared the laptop....why do they insist that the investigation is still ongoing?

If the laptop emails contain no evidence....why haven't they been turned over to the House at the request of the impeachment subpoena?




Good enough for an arrest in Russia, but not in a free society.


Here's a year ago...head of the FBI cyber division. Where's the laptop? He doesn't know. Are there crimes on the laptop? He doesn't know. Have they looked into the possibility of the president's son or president being compromised? He doesn't know.

Here's the head of National Security.


Again, no answers except "I won't speak about any potential investigations."

The idea...in your mind....that this has been investigated and cleared of any possible crimes is silly. It's based on the fantasy in your mind. It's not reality.

You have no evidence that either Biden has been investigated or cleared of any crimes.

 
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