Did humans descend from Apes?

[Brightmoon]

Mammals are reptilomorphs which consists of synapsids anapsids and diapsids. Synapsids evolved into mammals. Anapsids are turtles and diapsids are birds crocodilians dinosaurs lizards and snakes

 

[Brightmoon]

Aman777 said: ↑
Were you brain washed by the False ToE as a child

Mar 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

What is the point of lying about natural phenomena?

 

[Aman777]

What is the point of lying about natural phenomena?

No point unless you wish to confuse the minds of little children. Changing the words from "descent with modification within kinds" into "evolution" is the work of godless people who attempt to eliminate God from His Own Creation. They also twisted the word "natural" from created and brought forth from water, to support their Lies.

 

[PsychoSarah]

No point unless you wish to confuse the minds of little children. Changing the words from "descent with modification within kinds" into "evolution" is the work of godless people who attempt to eliminate God from His Own Creation.

"Descent with modification within kinds" isn't a phrase that predates the term "evolution". A phrase can't replace another phrase that didn't precede it anymore than I can cut someone in line that started out behind me.

They also twisted the word "natural" from created and brought forth from water, to support their Lies.

Natural has always meant that the item in question existed in and/or was caused by nature. Activities of deities and the like have always been put into contexts to suggest that they are beyond natural.

 

[Jjmcubbin]

No point unless you wish to confuse the minds of little children. Changing the words from "descent with modification within kinds" into "evolution" is the work of godless people who attempt to eliminate God from His Own Creation. They also twisted the word "natural" from created and brought forth from water, to support their Lies.

Have you ever traveled outside your country or locality? Ever been to the middle east, India, etc. People from these places (most of them) believe in a different God. What discredits their god and what makes you so sure your god is right?
A logical and unbiased third person would come to a conclusion that since there are many gods with different teachings, they must be created by different people.
I really don't have an answer to the rest of your post. It is like a horoscope.

 

[Brightmoon]

Descent with modification is the term Darwin preferred so I’m going to use it. “Kinds”still doesn’t have a good definition so I’m not sure which goalpost you’re trying to move

 

[Aman777]

"Descent with modification within kinds" isn't a phrase that predates the term "evolution". A phrase can't replace another phrase that didn't precede it anymore than I can cut someone in line that started out behind me.

Google:>>Descent with modification is simply passing traits from parent to offspring, and this concept is one of the fundamental ideas behind Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

1615 1625; < Latin ēvolūtiōn- (stem of ēvolūtiō) anunrolling, opening, equivalent to ēvolūt(us) (see evolute) + -iōn- -ion

Natural has always meant that the item in question existed in and/or was caused by nature. Activities of deities and the like have always been put into contexts to suggest that they are beyond natural.

Google:>>Definition of natural science. : any of the sciences (such as physics, chemistry, or biology) that deal with matter, energy, and their interrelations and transformations or with objectively measurable phenomena.

All living creatures had their origin in water according to Science. Look up Last universal common ancestor or read Genesis 1:21. Here's why:

Gen 1:20 ¶ And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life

 

[Aman777]

Have you ever traveled outside your country or locality? Ever been to the middle east, India, etc. People from these places (most of them) believe in a different God. What discredits their god and what makes you so sure your god is right?

Because God told us more than 3k years ago of the discoveries of Science which are currently taking place. God hid His scientific Truth in Genesis and I reveal them to those with the "increased knowledge" of the last days, to understand. Daniel 12:4

A logical and unbiased third person would come to a conclusion that since there are many gods with different teachings, they must be created by different people.
I really don't have an answer to the rest of your post. It is like a horoscope.

Then show us where any teach that God made a multiverse, created all life from water and changed prehistoric people into Humans, as God shows us in Genesis. You cannot because ALL of them are in error. God's Truth agrees in every way with every discovery of Science and History IF you have the proper interpretatation. God Bless you

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

... The myth is that we magically obtained the highest intelligence in creation from mindless nature.

Lol! given a variation of intelligence across species in nature, one species is inevitably going to have the highest intelligence; the same applies to all other varying traits.

The myth is that instead of the obvious inevitable, you have to invoke some magical entity to make you feel special.

 

[Aman777]

Lol! given a variation of intelligence across species in nature, one species is inevitably going to have the highest intelligence; the same applies to all other varying traits.

The myth is that instead of the obvious inevitable, you have to invoke some magical entity to make you feel special.

Then, please explain the process by which Humans became the most intelligent of creatures but didn't exhibit any of these traits until 11,000 years ago. History records the arrival of the first Humans, at that time.

BTW, Humans have the ability to know both good and evil but NO innocent creature who descended from water does. Are we magic?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

The flawed ToE teaches that humans descended from the common ancestor of Apes. This theory is provably false since it cannot explain the process by which we obtained our superior intelligence to ANY other living creature on planet Earth, from mindless Nature. . . . .

Well, actually, it does explain the process by which we obtained our superior intelligence. Of course, you reject the explanation, but that's the way creationists always handle any science they don't like.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Then, please explain the process by which Humans became the most intelligent of creatures but didn't exhibit any of these traits until 11,000 years ago. History records the arrival of the first Humans, at that time.

BTW, Humans have the ability to know both good and evil but NO innocent creature who descended from water does. Are we magic?

Well, history requires the invention of writing, so basically the earliest history records the earliest writing. Not the same as the earliest humans.

 

[Jjmcubbin]

Because God told us more than 3k years ago of the discoveries of Science which are currently taking place. God hid His scientific Truth in Genesis and I reveal them to those with the "increased knowledge" of the last days, to understand. Daniel 12:4



Then show us where any teach that God made a multiverse, created all life from water and changed prehistoric people into Humans, as God shows us in Genesis. You cannot because ALL of them are in error. God's Truth agrees in every way with every discovery of Science and History IF you have the proper interpretatation. God Bless you

Please tell me where god told us about the discovery of mendelian genetics, penecillin and antipsychotics.
PS: The vedas also listed some scientific discoveries of today and they are older than the bible. (Some, just like the bible, and of course, with no evidence for their time)
As the second part, wow that's overconfident. I would like to say most religions, but idk. I know the religion I am technically a part of has the same + more.
"IF you have the proper interpretation" see this is the problem. It is like modern art. You can equate anything with everything because the words are vague. Which is why I said your posts are like a horoscope.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Then, please explain the process by which Humans became the most intelligent of creatures but didn't exhibit any of these traits until 11,000 years ago. History records the arrival of the first Humans, at that time.

The process was evolution by natural selection. The earliest humans (homo sapiens) appeared at least 200,000 years ago, probably around 300,000 years ago.

BTW, Humans have the ability to know both good and evil but NO innocent creature who descended from water does. Are we magic?

Not sure what you mean by 'innocent creature', but many animals have a strong sense of fairness, some considerably more than that, including altruistic behaviour - enough to arguably be said to have morals.

Our own morality appears to be a richer cultural phenomenon, based on the same universals of fairness and communal cooperation, although the implementation varies across cultures.

The difference is more a matter of degree than of qualitative difference. We're not so different from other animals when you look closely.

 

[xianghua]

Anapsids are turtles and diapsids are birds crocodilians dinosaurs lizards and snakes

actually turtles are now consider to be diapsids:

Turtle - Wikipedia

"This placement within the diapsids suggests that the turtle lineage lost diapsid skull characteristics as it now possesses an anapsid-like skull."

 

[AnotherAtheist]

False. Here are the references:
Adam's world was made in the middle of water with water surrounding it on the 2nd Day.Gen 1:6-8

Gen 1:6 ¶ And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Put ANY object in water and you too can divide the waters above the object from the water below the object. It's the way water works when you immerse an object in water.

Our world was NOT made in water but in the big bang which happened on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4

Gen 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Adam's Earth was made the 3rd Day, not the 2nd Day whan Adam's firmament was made. Notice also that Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) made Adam's Earth and NOT God. This is very important since Jesus ALWAYS makes temporary things. It takes the agreement of God the Trinity to "create" eternally.

That's two strikes. Further Scriptural study is indicated.



NO religious people ever told a story of the Big Bang of our Cosmos. ONLY God the Trinity KNEW the entire scientific Truth more than 3k years ago. It's proof of the Literal God which will be revealed to ALL FLESH in the last days of this Earth.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit (Spirit of Truth) upon all flesh:

Don't look now, but "all flesh" includes you. Science will reveal God's Truth of Genesis in the last days before Jesus returns. God Bless you

You are here arguing that your bible quotes were correct. However, they are not addressing the question that we were discussing. Hence, this is a complete non-sequitur.

 

[AnotherAtheist]

did you know that human also has genes for feathers developmant too?

Really? Name such a gene, and show how it isn't a progenitor of feather development genes (e.g. genes used for reptilian scales).

 

[xianghua]

Really?

realy. see here:

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/11/20/your-inner-feather/

 

[AnotherAtheist]

realy. see here:

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/11/20/your-inner-feather/

I said:

Really? Name such a gene, and show how it isn't a progenitor of feather development genes (e.g. genes used for reptilian scales).

Your link supports my argument, not yours. E.g., yes, we have the genes for keratin as used in feathers. But, reptilian scales and human hair (and nails) are made from keratin.

So, calling these genes 'feather genes' is inaccurate. They are generalised genes for a number of purposes, which just happen to be used in feathers as well.

You have failed to address the bolded bit in my post. In fact: you have given a source that shows that the bolded bit is true.

 

[Aman777]

Well, actually, it does explain the process by which we obtained our superior intelligence. Of course, you reject the explanation, but that's the way creationists always handle any science they don't like.

The supposition is that we "evolved" our superior intelligence through long periods of time and thousands upon thousands of random mutations. No other creature has "evolved" man's ability to reason, to judge, to know both good and evil. Of course, this process can NEVER be repeated because it's a supposition of godless people and has NO process to install our superior intelligence into ANY other creature. Brain washed Evols believe it by BLIND FAITH. Just believe us, is their doctrine. When you ask them for the process, they call you names and claim that you're uneducated while never revealing the supposed magical process.

God shows that Humans INHERITED our Human intelligence from Adam, the first Human, who was made with an intelligence like God's Gen 3:22 which is superior to any other living creature. Occam's Razor.