Did humans descend from Apes?

[Aman777]

It's a fact according to scientists, atheists and theists together, who think they know more than you do about it.

Not so, since I have found God's Truth on the matter. God tells us that Adam was made on the 3rd Day BEFORE plants, herbs and rain. Gen 2:4-7 "Every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from WATER on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Now, it's your time to tell us how Humans (descendants of Adam) could have possibly evolved from an Ape made billions of years after Adam was made. Humans were FIRST made according to the Spirit of Truth. Can you refute Him?

 

[Jjmcubbin]

Not so, since Adam was made to live forever and NOT in a body of flesh. Adam was made like YHWH/Lord God. You have confused the inheritance of DNA from the sons of God (prehistoric people) with Adam. Adam lived for billions of years and never took a single step on Planet Earth. Read Genesis 6:4 and see IF you understand.

This is unrelated to everything here. I don't know much about the Bible, but if Adam and eve were the sole humans to populate the earth, wouldn't it have lead to inbreeding deoression?

 

[Aman777]

This is unrelated to everything here. I don't know much about the Bible, but if Adam and eve were the sole humans to populate the earth, wouldn't it have lead to inbreeding deoression?

Especially since A&E lived in perfect bodies with no sex. Humanity will regain our perfect bodies at the Rapture. That is WHY God created and brought forth, from Water, "every living creature that moveth" which includes the sons of God (prehistoric people) who are "Their" kinds (Trinity kinds). Adam was made by Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) or His kinds, long BEFORE the sons of God were made. Want Scripture?

 

[Brightmoon]

Adam and Eve had bodies that did have sexual relations otherwise there would have been no point to them having different sexes. What is it with fundies and sex anyway ? Creepy!

 

[kiwimac]

Humans share a common ancestor with the other great apes.

 

[Brightmoon]

Actually humans are apes. humans never evolved away from being apes . The old name for the other great apes- Pongidae has been retired and they’re in Hominidae with us now . Just updating your info cuz a lot of people haven’t got the info yet even though this was done about 20 years ago

 

[AnotherAtheist]

Not so, since Adam was made to live forever and NOT in a body of flesh. Adam was made like YHWH/Lord God. You have confused the inheritance of DNA from the sons of God (prehistoric people) with Adam. Adam lived for billions of years and never took a single step on Planet Earth. Read Genesis 6:4 and see IF you understand.

There is nothing in your Bible reference to say that Adam never took a single step on Earth or lived for billions of years. It just mentions the Nephilim.

You seem to be defining 'understanding' the Bible as making the same, bizarre, interpretations as you are doing.

To me it looks as if you interpret the Bible so loosely that effectively you have made up your own religion that is no longer Christianity.

Especially since A&E lived in perfect bodies with no sex. Humanity will regain our perfect bodies at the Rapture. That is WHY God created and brought forth, from Water, "every living creature that moveth" which includes the sons of God (prehistoric people) who are "Their" kinds (Trinity kinds). Adam was made by Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) or His kinds, long BEFORE the sons of God were made. Want Scripture?

There doesn't seem to be much point in asking for scripture as you'll just give us a reference that doesn't support your claims.

 

[Aman777]

Adam and Eve had bodies that did have sexual relations otherwise there would have been no point to them having different sexes. What is it with fundies and sex anyway ? Creepy!

Only by "adding to" what is actually written can you say that Adam and Eve had sex before the fall. The FIRST time was AFTER the fall. Gen 4:1 What do you think tempted Adam to sin? Was it his desire for Eve? Remember that SHE disobeyed first and lost her Shekinah Glory which surrounded her, leaving her naked and afraid. Was it Adam's LOVE for her which tempted him?

 

[Aman777]

There is nothing in your Bible reference to say that Adam never took a single step on Earth or lived for billions of years. It just mentions the Nephilim.

Don't you know that Adam's entire Heaven/firmament was totally destroyed in the flood?
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed totally utterly)

You seem to be defining 'understanding' the Bible as making the same, bizarre, interpretations as you are doing.

I show that we are living in the last days of this Planet with the "increased knowledge" available today. Dan 12:3 What I have discovered is that Genesis chapter ONE contains the entire History of God's creation, including events which will take place AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon, at the end of the present 6th Day/Age.

There doesn't seem to be much point in asking for scripture as you'll just give us a reference that doesn't support your claims.

It does no good to tell unbelievers about God's Truth until the last days, since now, we understand that each of God's Days/Ages is billions of years in length in man's time. When you know that you will see that God's Truth AGREES in every way with every discovery of Science and History. God Bless you

 

[Brightmoon]

Wow , the fantasy is strong in this one

 

[AnotherAtheist]

Don't you know that Adam's entire Heaven/firmament was totally destroyed in the flood?
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed totally utterly)



I show that we are living in the last days of this Planet with the "increased knowledge" available today. Dan 12:3 What I have discovered is that Genesis chapter ONE contains the entire History of God's creation, including events which will take place AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon, at the end of the present 6th Day/Age.



It does no good to tell unbelievers about God's Truth until the last days, since now, we understand that each of God's Days/Ages is billions of years in length in man's time. When you know that you will see that God's Truth AGREES in every way with every discovery of Science and History. God Bless you

Again, I check your Bible passages against your claims, and I don't see how the passages support your claims at all.

I think that you have put so much interpretation into the Bible that you aren't following it at all. You have your own interpretation which is so detached from the actual words of the Bible that you have effectively made up your own religion.

 

[Aman777]

Aman777 said: ↑
Don't you know that Adam's entire Heaven/firmament was totally destroyed in the flood?
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed totally utterly)

Again, I check your Bible passages against your claims, and I don't see how the passages support your claims at all.

Here are some other Scriptural proofs which you probably will dismiss.

1. God the Trinity made the FIRST firmament/Heaven on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:8
2. Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) made other HeavenS on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4
3. God told Noah that He was going to destroy Adam's Earth. Gen 6:13

Use the links to find the KJV of those verses. I suspect you have an altered version of Scripture since you don't seem to be able to read and add 1 Heaven to 2 other Heavens, made on different Days by different Dieties. Am I wrong? I have many more Scriptural proofs which I can show you that Adam's world (the world that THEN WAS) is NOT the heavens and Earth which are now. 2Pe 3:7 God tells us that the Scoffers of the last days are "willingly ignorant" of His Truth. 2Pe 3:3 Thanks for allowing me to show you His Truth. Now, you are without excuse.

 

[AnotherAtheist]

Aman777 said: ↑
Don't you know that Adam's entire Heaven/firmament was totally destroyed in the flood?
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed totally utterly)

Here are some other Scriptural proofs which you probably will dismiss.

1. God the Trinity made the FIRST firmament/Heaven on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:8
2. Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) made other HeavenS on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4
3. God told Noah that He was going to destroy Adam's Earth. Gen 6:13

Use the links to find the KJV of those verses. I suspect you have an altered version of Scripture since you don't seem to be able to read and add 1 Heaven to 2 other Heavens, made on different Days by different Dieties. Am I wrong? I have many more Scriptural proofs which I can show you that Adam's world (the world that THEN WAS) is NOT the heavens and Earth which are now. 2Pe 3:7 God tells us that the Scoffers of the last days are "willingly ignorant" of His Truth. 2Pe 3:3 Thanks for allowing me to show you His Truth. Now, you are without excuse.

Gen 2:4 is very ambiguous.

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

I don't think that can be pinned down to saying what you claim it says.

Gen 6:13 does actually say that God told Noah that he was going to destroy the Earth. I'm not sure what you mean by calling it Adam's Earth? I suspect that it's part of your original religion and I'm not familiar with that one.

Why would the KJV be any more reliable than any other versions? Or the Qu'ran? Or any number of other religious texts? Why have you chosen The Bible to base your religion on, instead of writing a new religious text from scratch?

 

[Aman777]

Gen 2:4 is very ambiguous.

Only to those who cannot understand it. Here's the verse:

Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God (Jesus) made the earth and the heavens,

The verse is speaking of the 3rd Day, the SAME Day/Age Adam's Earth was made according to Gen 1:10-12. Notice that God (Elohim-The Trinity) made the first Earth BUT Jesus (Lord God) made the present Earth and the 3rd Heaven of ll Cor 12:2. Jesus made at least 2 Heavens and God the Trinity made Adam's. Do you know the difference between His kinds (Jesus) and God's (Trinity) kinds?

I don't think that can be pinned down to saying what you claim it says.

Then explain this in your own terms.

Gen 6:13 does actually say that God told Noah that he was going to destroy the Earth. I'm not sure what you mean by calling it Adam's Earth? I suspect that it's part of your original religion and I'm not familiar with that one.

See above and try to explain WHY God made one and Jesus made other HeavenS.

Why would the KJV be any more reliable than any other versions? Or the Qu'ran? Or any number of other religious texts? Why have you chosen The Bible to base your religion on, instead of writing a new religious text from scratch?

I have NO religion. I support what I write with the AGREEMENT of Scripture with Science and History. When you read the actual words, they do NOT say what ancient man thought but it's easy for an educated person living today (last days) to understand, thus fulfilling Daniel 12:4. God HID His scientific Truth in Genesis so that the people of the last days could see that ONLY God could have written the scientific Truth more than 3k years ago. It's empirical (testable) evidence of the literal God. I use the KJV because it has been altered less than today's versions.

 

[AnotherAtheist]

Only to those who cannot understand it. Here's the verse:

Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God (Jesus) made the earth and the heavens,

The verse is speaking of the 3rd Day, the SAME Day/Age Adam's Earth was made according to Gen 1:10-12. Notice that God (Elohim-The Trinity) made the first Earth BUT Jesus (Lord God) made the present Earth and the 3rd Heaven of ll Cor 12:2. Jesus made at least 2 Heavens and God the Trinity made Adam's. Do you know the difference between His kinds (Jesus) and God's (Trinity) kinds?

I can see the verse. I can see your interpretation. I can see no justification of the latter given the former. Let's see: you think that people 'understand' the verses if they agree with you, but don't 'understand' it if they don't?

Then explain this in your own terms.

My point is that it is ambiguous. I.e. I claim that there is no one correct interpretation. Hence, it's silly to ask me to explain it in my own terms.

See above and try to explain WHY God made one and Jesus made other HeavenS.

The plural is ambiguous. Even though there is only one 'sky', we still refer to 'skies'. 'Heavens' as a plural is not disambiguated in any way, so that we don't know what it means. If we say that God made one and Jesus made other skIES then that wouldn't imply a multiverse. So, your argument relies on the semantics of individual words of a translated text. I.e., you have no argument. We don't know what the authors of the Bible meant. You, of course, will claim that you do, but you can't support your interpretations.

I have NO religion. I support what I write with the AGREEMENT of Scripture with Science and History. When you read the actual words, they do NOT say what ancient man thought but it's easy for an educated person living today (last days) to understand, thus fulfilling Daniel 12:4. God HID His scientific Truth in Genesis so that the people of the last days could see that ONLY God could have written the scientific Truth more than 3k years ago. It's empirical (testable) evidence of the literal God. I use the KJV because it has been altered less than today's versions.

Well, if you say that you have NO religion, then that explains a lot. From what you write, it seems to me that you have a religion. Just that you've made up your own one.

When you read the actual words, it seems that they mean something that you've made up. Do you have any followers?

 

[tas8831]

The morning of the first Day/Age was some 23 Billion years ago, in man's time.

Sounds made-up.

 

[Aman777]

Sounds made-up.

Not so since we know how long it was from the big bang until the first stars lit up. It was 180 Million years according to https://news.nationalgeographic.com/.../first-stars-universe-big-bang-edges-space-scie... Feb 28, 2018

The big bang was some 13.8 Billion years ago in man's time, and the 3rd Day in God's time. Gen 2:4 We live today on the 6th Day. Gen 1:27 This means that each of God's Days/Ages is some 4.5 Billion years, in man's time. This puts the big bang of our Cosmos at the END of the 3rd Day since the FIRST Stars lit up only 180 Million years later, on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 IF you would like me to show you this from actual verses, just ask.