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My second reason for the AD30 date is found in Luke's information regarding the ministry of John the Baptist. He says:

"In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar - when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, Herod tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Iturea and Traconitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene - during the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the desert. He went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins." (Luke 3:1-3)

So when was the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar? If we can ascertain that, all that remains to do is add 3½ years (the period of Jesus ministry from his baptism by John) and we arrive at the date of the cross.

Tiberius became sole emperor on the death of his adoptive father, Augustus. (Aug 19, AD 14) However, it is a well known fact that he had become co-regent with his ailing father two years beforehand in AD 12. He was made supreme military commander over Caesar's armies and provinces in that year. Ancient coins from Antioch dated AD 12 display the head of Tiberius and documents attest to his reign being fully in force from then. Thus, the inauguration in AD 14 as emperor was only a formalisation of a reign which had begun two years earlier.

Therefore, the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius would make it AD 26-27 correlating with the start of Christ's ministry and supporting the AD 30 date as the most likely date of his crucifixion.
For those who are interested in the coin dating 12 AD
Tiberius, as Caesar. 12-14 AD. Æ As. Lugdunum mint. TI CAESAR AVGVST F IMPERAT VII, laureate head right / ROM ET AVG, front elevation of the Altar of Lugdunum, decorated with the corona civica between laurels, nude figures, & Victories. Cohen 37. * Sear RCV 1756 * WildWinds.com
It doesn't copy the link correctly so see below, just added two fulstops
https://w.w.w.wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s1756.html#RIC_0245[aug]
 
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Sorry I am new to the forum.
Pasting the link it auto fills and also breaks it. :scratch:
Therefore I posted the link with two full stops between the www, breaking it.
No worries I figured it may have been something weird like that. Good information to know and look out for when I or others post links.
 
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Great find! Here is another coin minted during the co-regency period, showing Augustus on one side and Tiberius on the other. Image courtesy of Classical Numismatic Group. www.cngcoins.com

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My second reason for the AD30 date is found in Luke's information regarding the ministry of John the Baptist. He says:

"In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar - when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, Herod tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Iturea and Traconitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene - during the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the desert. He went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins." (Luke 3:1-3)

So when was the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar? If we can ascertain that, all that remains to do is add 3½ years (the period of Jesus ministry from his baptism by John) and we arrive at the date of the cross.

Tiberius became sole emperor on the death of his adoptive father, Augustus. (Aug 19, AD 14) However, it is a well known fact that he had become co-regent with his ailing father two years beforehand in AD 12. He was made supreme military commander over Caesar's armies and provinces in that year. Ancient coins from Antioch dated AD 12 display the head of Tiberius and documents attest to his reign being fully in force from then. Thus, the inauguration in AD 14 as emperor was only a formalisation of a reign which had begun two years earlier.

Therefore, the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius would make it AD 26-27 correlating with the start of Christ's ministry and supporting the AD 30 date as the most likely date of his crucifixion.

A bit of clarification I would like to add to the title Caesar. While during the time of Augustus it came to be associated with the Latin Imperatur "Emperor, Ruler" this was in truth a family name which was already long in use during the life of Julius Caesar.

Now Julius Caesar as the legend goes was descended from the goddess Venus who married the Trojan prince Aneas and gave birth to their son Julus. According to Pliny the Elder the cognomen of caesar came from the caesarean section from the Latin caedere "to cut". The Historia Augusta suggests three alternate explanations:

  1. caesaris "thick head of hair"
  2. oculus caesiis "bright eyes"
  3. caesai "elephant"
It was told that Julius Caesar favored the third interpretation of his name as he is said to have killed an Elephant in battle during the Punic Wars. While Julius Caesar clearly was not alive during the battles between Rome and Carthage it would explain why Julius Caesar had elephants minted on the coins he issued during his life.

Therefore if we took the name caesar to mean imperatur then Julius Caesar would be the first Roman Emperor and contradict his own histories as he died with the title Dictator in perpetuum "Dictator in Perpetuity".

With that explanation of caesar aside I would like to know the written sources declaring Tiberius to Emperor of Rome alongside Augustus in 12 AD. I don't see any marknings on the coin which would indicate a regnal year, but alas I am no coin expert.
 
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Just a heads up that the link you posted is broken because of the "w.w.w." part in the hyperlink:

https://w.w.w.wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s1756.html#RIC_0245[aug]

If people erase that the link works fine.

Great find! Here is another coin minted during the co-regency period, showing Augustus on one side and Tiberius on the other. Image courtesy of Classical Numismatic Group. www.cngcoins.com

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While I am no Latin expert the side of Tiberius reads:

TI CAESAR AVG F [the text follwing I can't understand] XV

this would translate to...

Tiberius Caesar Augustus Filius [the text following I can't understand] 15

now since we have Augustus Caesar on the opposite side of the same coin the proper words of the side of Tiberius should read...

Tiberius Caesar [in his] Father Augustus 15[th Consulship]

Of course this is my way of trying to make sense of what is being communicated on the coin and best exaplain why they would show up on the same coin, and still correlate it with history.

If anyone else wants to give it a shot...
 
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Great find! Here is another coin minted during the co-regency period, showing Augustus on one side and Tiberius on the other. Image courtesy of Classical Numismatic Group. www.cngcoins.com

View attachment 311626
The only thing I can make out on the side of Augustus Caesar is this:

CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI [the follwoing text I can't read]

Caesar Augustus [the] Divine [the following text I can't read]

Again I am no expert in Latin and only am able to make out this much here in this post and post #47 because of repetitively reading certain names in historical records. As I said before I am interested if you or Fillipus could provide any written records to support the theory that Tiberius indeed co-ruled with his adopted father Augustus.
 
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Oh, those coins are interesting. If they can be properly dated to 12 AD that would definitely support the co-regency theory of starting Tiberius' reign at the co-regency rather than 14 AD.


I would liken this to Solomon's co-regency with David. While David was alive the temple couldn't be built; yet it was in Solomon's 4th year that construction began. The delay in building hints at a 4 year co-regency. If so, Solomon's reign didn't start after David died, but began while he was still alive.

I think most of you are familiar with the Old Testament verses and I'm feeling lazy at the moment to quote them, but I will if you'd like me too.

I don't think it's outlandish to assume that Tiberius' reign began in 12 AD while being co-regent. We mark it as 14 AD, but the ancients may have counted the beginning of reigns differently than we do.
 
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Oh, those coins are interesting. If they can be properly dated to 12 AD that would definitely support the co-regency theory of starting Tiberius' reign at the co-regency rather than 14 AD.


I would liken this to Solomon's co-regency with David. While David was alive the temple couldn't be built; yet it was in Solomon's 4th year that construction began. The delay in building hints at a 4 year co-regency. If so, Solomon's reign didn't start after David died, but began while he was still alive.

I think most of you are familiar with the Old Testament verses and I'm feeling lazy at the moment to quote them, but I will if you'd like me too.

I don't think it's outlandish to assume that Tiberius' reign began in 12 AD while being co-regent. We mark it as 14 AD, but the ancients may have counted the beginning of reigns differently than we do.
I don't find the theory outlandish by any means. I just like to see the written records which would make such a claim highly probable. Even after Augustus had assumed power there were still Tribunes, Proconsuls, and the Senate still in operation: and because of these other offices in Rome which were established during the days of its Republic, it would be easy to confuse a consulship or tribunal power with being "Emperor".

As regards your thoughts on the co-reigns of king David and Solomon, I did try this before. This view would mean that in order for David to still have ruled for 40 Years 6 Months that Solomon would've begun his 1st Year in the 6th Month of the 36th Year of his father David:

36th Year of David to 4th Year of Solomon
36 Years 6 Months (David)
4 Years (Solomon)
40 Years 6 Months (David)
4th Year of king Solomon


I could've easily missed something that you may have caught onto brother Isaac. Take a stab at it.
 
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36th Year of David to 4th Year of Solomon
36 Years 6 Months (David)
4 Years (Solomon)
40 Years 6 Months (David)
4th Year of king Solomon


I could've easily missed something that you may have caught onto brother Isaac. Take a stab at it.

Nope that's the same conclusion I came to: that Solomon's reign would've begun in David's 36th.

I'll admit ancient Rome was one of my most hated subjects in school; so I have the most basic and elementary understanding of the empire. I've been studying it more over the last few years, but I'm sure I'm further behind academically compared to the rest of you.
 
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While I am no Latin expert the side of Tiberius reads:

TI CAESAR AVG F [the text follwing I can't understand] XV

this would translate to...

Tiberius Caesar Augustus Filius [the text following I can't understand] 15

If they can be properly dated to 12 AD that would definitely support the co-regency theory of starting Tiberius' reign at the co-regency rather than 14 AD.

The information provided by 'Classical Numismatic Group' reads: Augustus, with Tiberius as Caesar. 27 BC-AD 14. AR Denarius (3.68 g, 7h). Lugdunum (Lyon) mint. Struck AD 13-14. CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI F PATER PATRIAE, laureate head right / TI • CAESAR • AVG • F • TR • POT • XV •, bare head of Tiberius right. RIC I 226; Lyon 88; RSC 2 (Tiberius and Augustus); BMCRE 507; BN 1682-4. EF, toned.

Ive highlighted the numismatic information that we are looking for. My coin pic was minted in AD13, one year before Augustus died. Filippus' pic seems to be a little earlier still.
 
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Nope that's the same conclusion I came to: that Solomon's reign would've begun in David's 36th.

I'll admit ancient Rome was one of my most hated subjects in school; so I have the most basic and elementary understanding of the empire. I've been studying it more over the last few years, but I'm sure I'm further behind academically compared to the rest of you.
Don't lose heart brother Isaac. History isn't the easiest subject because you have to discipline yourself to carefully follow the narrative, especially when you're unfamiliar with the names of ancient peoples...and this will be the case more often than not.

My best advice from my experience would be to skip over all the long comments, introductions, prefaces, etc. so you can get to the substance which is the narrative. From here keep your eye out for the names of important figures and dates associated with them and note them down as you go. All excellent ancient historians will give you the key information you need to know in an orderly fashion without all the flowery words.

If you wish to really catch up on Roman history then you have to start Titus Livius or as we commonly know him "Livy". He wrote the massive volume Ab Urbe Condita Libri literally Books since the City's Founding or as the West recognizes it now History of Rome. You can't learn Roman history properly without consulting this ancient Roman historian who lived from -59 BC to 17 AD. For his work covers the time from the founding of Rome by Romulus all the way to his days when Nero Claudius Drusus died in -9 BC. From here you want to consult Tacitus and Flavius Josephus.

These three ancient Roman historians alone will give you all you need to know about ancient Rome and times during, and after the life of Christ. Eusebius of Caesarea is the one who will give you the history of the first 300 Years of the early Church ending in the 20th anniversary of Constantine. There is also a pagan historian by name of Zosimus who wrote Nova Historia literally New History.

These ancient Roman historians will help you catch up to about 1,200 Years of Roman history!
 
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The information provided by 'Classical Numismatic Group' reads: Augustus, with Tiberius as Caesar. 27 BC-AD 14. AR Denarius (3.68 g, 7h). Lugdunum (Lyon) mint. Struck AD 13-14. CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI F PATER PATRIAE, laureate head right / TI • CAESAR • AVG • F • TR • POT • XV •, bare head of Tiberius right. RIC I 226; Lyon 88; RSC 2 (Tiberius and Augustus); BMCRE 507; BN 1682-4. EF, toned.

Ive highlighted the numismatic information that we are looking for. My coin pic was minted in AD13, one year before Augustus died. Filippus' pic seems to be a little earlier still.
Thanks for this brother Gedge! Okay the text in Latin should read...

Side of Augustus Caesar
Caesar Augustus Divinus Filius Pater Patriae

Caesar Augustus Divine Son [and] Father [of the] Country

Side of Tiberius
Ti Caesar Augustus Filius Tribunicia Potestate

Tiberius Caesar Son [of] Augustus [in the] Tribunal Power 15[th Year]

It took a little digging and review but here's a useful Legend Key:

F = Filius "Son"
TR = Tribunicia "Tribune"
POT = Potestate "Power"
DIVI = Divinus "Divine"

Anyways it's clear this was either the 15th Year of Tiberius or Augustus Caesar as Tribune.
 
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I would like to offer five reasons starting with Astronomical Data.

Modern research has enabled us through astronomical and computer technology to pinpoint two possible dates for the cross. They are AD 30 or AD 33. This is based on Old Testament information that the Passover lamb was slain late on the 14th Nisan and eaten early on the fifteenth. Therefore, since the Hebrew day began at sunset, Jesus’ last meal with his disciples would have been about 9 pm, Thursday, the fifteenth Nisan.

Now, Hebrew months begin on the sighting of new moon and the position of the moon can be determined at any moment in history enabling us to convert lunar dates. When we examine AD 31 for example, Passover fell on a Tuesday; but Jesus’ last supper was not on a Tuesday. This particular Passover had to be Thursday/Friday and, according to data from astronomical observatories, Passover occurred late Thursday 15th Nisan during this period only on 6th April AD 30 and 2nd April AD 33. Therefore, since Christ was crucified later on Friday, the crucifixion date must either be 7th April AD 30 or 3rd April AD 33.


Well I started with Daniel 9:25.

Daniel 9:25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuance of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the coming of the Messiah the Anointed One, the Prince, there will be seven weeks of years and sixty-two weeks of years; it will be built again, with a city plaza and moat, even in times of trouble.

7 + 62 = 69 weeks or 69 Shmita years.

Or

69 x 7 = 483 years

The start of the count begins at the issuance of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.
Now the last degree was given to Ezra, and is clearly specified in the book Ezra, let’s take a look.

Firstly King Artaxerxes I, started his reign in 465 BC. (https://w.w.w.britannica.com/biography/Artaxerxes-I)

Ezra 7:1 Now after this, in the reign of Artaxerxes I [son of Ahasuerus (Xerxes)] king of Persia,...

Ezra 7:11 Now this is a copy of the decree that King Artaxerxes gave to Ezra the priest, the scribe who was learned in the words of the commandments of the Lord and of His statutes to Israel: “Artaxerxes, king of kings, to Ezra the priest, the scribe of the Law of the God of heaven, perfect peace greetings. And now I have issued a decree that all of the people of Israel and their priests and the Levites in my kingdom who are willing to go to Jerusalem, may go with you.

Ezra 7:8 Ezra came to Jerusalem in the fifth month of the seventh year of the king. 9 For on the first of the first month he started out from Babylon, and on the first of the fifth month he arrived in Jerusalem, because the good hand of his God was on him.


The annals of the Assyrian Empire discovered by archaeologists record twelve years between the reigns of King Ahab of Israel and King Jehu of Israel. However, the Biblical record records fourteen years between the reigns of these kings with two kings between them "Ahaziah who ruled for two years and Jehoram who ruled twelve years (1 Kings 22:51; 2 Kings 3:1).

What at first glance appears to be a discrepancy can be easily explained by historians. Ancient kingdoms had different ways of recording regnal years of their kings. The Assyrians and Babylonians credited the entire year when a king died to his reign, even if he died at the beginning of the year and his successor ruled eleven months of that year.

The first year for a new Assyrian or Babylonian king would be designated his "accession year" and the new king's "year 1" did not begin until the first day of the following year. Historians call this method the "accession year system" or the "post-dating system."


Therefore, the seventh year of King Artaxerxes I is 458 BC. Starting on 457 as the first year adding 483 (69 Shmita’s) takes us to the years 26 AD.

69th Shmita = 26 AD

27 AD starting the 70th Shmita.

Luke 3:1 Now in the fifteenth year of Emperor Tiberius Caesar’s reign…

Luke applying the Biblical method of recording the reign, suggests that the count was started during Tiberius co-regency which started in 12 AD.

12 + 15 = 27 AD.

Luke 3:21-23 One day when the crowds were being baptized, Jesus himself was baptized. As he was praying, the heavens opened, and the Holy Spirit, in bodily form, descended on him like a dove. And a voice from heaven said, “You are my dearly loved Son, and you bring me great joy.” Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his public ministry.

27 AD the start of Jesus’s Ministry.

Daniel 9:27a And he will enter into a binding and irrevocable covenant with the many for one week (seven years), but in the middle of the week he will stop the sacrifice and grain offering

Now adding 3 ½ years (Jesus who will stop the sacrifice and grain offering in the middle of the week from Daniel 9:27), to 27 AD (the start of His ministry) brings us to 7th April AD 30. Note the count started on the 1st of the month Tishri, which explains the ½ years to Abib.

27 AD + 3 ½ years = 30 AD (3 ½ years into the 70th Shmita.)

Working back from 27 AD, Jesus 29 turning 30th year, places His birth between Tishri 4 BC and Abib 3 BC.

This is further supported with Herod’s Death which is now suggested to have occurred in 1 BC. Josephus says that in Herod’s final days he ordered the execution of two religious’ leaders for heading a raid to remove a Roman eagle from the gate of the Temple. On that night there was an eclipse of the moon. (Antiquities 17:6:4).
  • Herod ruled 37 years from being proclaimed king in Rome, and 34 years from the death of Antigonus (Antiquities XVII. 191; War I.665).
  • Josephus specifically says Herod captured the city of Jerusalem 27 years to the day after Rome’s General Pompey had done so in 63 B.C. (Antiquities, XIV. 487-488). That day was memorable: the Day of Atonement in the fall of 36 B.C. Herod carried Antigonus away in bonds from that conquest.
  • These words from Josephus’ require Herod to have captured Jerusalem in the fall of 36 B.C., exactly 27 years after Pompey’s victory. If King Herod then ruled 34 years from the death of Antigonus, he cannot have died in 4 B.C., but only later.
In 4 B.C. a partial eclipse of the moon happened on March 12/13. In 1 B.C. a total eclipse happened on January 10. The 1 BC date a better fit in many ways and is supported by the 4-3 BC birth.

h.t.t.ps://patternsofevidence.com/2021/12/31/herods-death-key-to-jesus-birth-year/

Lastly, placing the year of the crucifixion on 30 AD allowed 40 years to 70 AD, the year of it's destruction, which must mean something.

Shalom
 
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Nope that's the same conclusion I came to: that Solomon's reign would've begun in David's 36th.

I'll admit ancient Rome was one of my most hated subjects in school; so I have the most basic and elementary understanding of the empire. I've been studying it more over the last few years, but I'm sure I'm further behind academically compared to the rest of you.
I simply placed it at the end of King Davids 40th year and it works out.
Hope this helps.
Shalom
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My confusion does rest on the fact that the Gregorian calendar was changed. I'm looking at the years 28 AD, 30 AD, and 31 AD. If I could figure which day of the week Passover fell on in each year, I think I'd get a clearer picture, however, calendars seem to differ depending on sites.

Which websites are you looking at to get these numbers?

While shopping for Bibles this month, I found one that has the Hebrew calendar for reference. I wished all study Bibles had it because most native English readers can't figure out if Nisan is March or April.

Assuming Jesus was born in 6 BC (based on when Herod was the king of Israel), because there was not a year 0 (thanks to Europeans strangely thinking at the time zero is not a number), his age would be ~35 if he died in 30 AD. This goes against what I had read years earlier: that Jesus was only 31-33 years old. Of course my early information could have been incorrect but this does open the possibility he died in 28 AD. Have you been able to estimate his age at the time of the Crucifixion?
 
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Video Summary

Augustus Caesar's death may be misdated by three years.

For the following year, when Sextus Apuleius and Sextus Pompeius were consuls, Augustus set out for Campania and after superintending the games at Naples soon passed away in Nola. Omens had appeared to him, not few by any means nor difficult to interpret, that pointed to this end. The sun suffered a total eclipse and most of the sky seemed to be on fire. The forms of glowing logs appeared falling from it and bloody comet stars were seen. When a senate-meeting had been announced on account of his sickness in order that they might offer prayers, the senate-house was found closed and an owl sitting upon it hooted. A thunderbolt fell upon his image standing on the Capitol and erased the first letter of the name of Cæsar. This led the seers to declare that on the hundredth day after that he should attain to some heavenly condition. They made this deduction from the fact that the letter mentioned signifies "hundred" among the Latins and all the rest of the name means "god" among the Etruscans. These signs appeared while he was still alive.

- Cassius Dio, Book 56, 29:3

Dio's Rome, Volume 4 An Historical Narrative Originally Composed in Greek During the Reigns of Septimius Severus, Geta and Caracalla, Macrinus, Elagabalus and Alexander Severus: and Now Presented in English Form

The only solar eclipse to be seen by the Roman Empire would have occurred February 15th, 0017 AD. It was a 'hybrid' eclipse.

A hybrid eclipse is a type of solar eclipse that looks like an annular solar eclipse or a total solar eclipse, depending on the observer's location along the central eclipse path.

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Due to an error in the Olympiad Calendar, Augustus reign may have been calculated one year to early. Shifting Nov. 27th, 43 BC to Nov. 27th, 42 BC. Adding Augustus' reign of 57 years, 6 months, and 2 days give a death date of May 25th, 0017 AD

February 15th, 0017 AD + 100 days = May 25th, 0017AD




If this is all correct then a 26/27 starting point for the ministries of John and Jesus Christ would be void--it would be too early. We would still be looking at a 14 AD 'accession' date for Tiberius: 14 + 15 = 29. But 14 AD would be while he was still co-regent.

Or we're looking at a 17 AD accession date--when he was sole ruler; 17 + 15 = 32/33 AD for the beginning of John and Christ's ministry.

A 32/33 date would push the crucifixion to 34 AD; or 36 AD if one holds to the traditional 3.5 year ministry theory.


I'm still on the bunny trail, but would like everyone's input on the research done by 'The Opened Scroll Ministry'. If you have time to watch the video, I'd appreciate the feedback!
 
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Hebrew Date Converter - 15th of Iyyar, 3788 | Hebcal Jewish Calendar

This one says April 27th, 28 AD was a Thursday. Mind you this says Iyyar, but I believe due to the additional month Adar II, Passover was a month later. So this should be Nissan, not Iyyar.

Hebrew Calendar

This has Passover on Tuesday, and properly accounts for the additional month.

However, if I'm wrong and Passover was in March (29th) in 28 AD, Passover would have fallen on a Monday.

http://www.marieslibrary.com/PDF_Articles/JesusDiedHebrewCalendar.pdf

While shopping for Bibles this month, I found one that has the Hebrew calendar for reference. I wished all study Bibles had it because most native English readers can't figure out if Nisan is March or April.

It's both. It depends on the year. Beginnings of months start on the New Moon and Passover is the 14th/15th of Nissan. So if the New Moon starts March 12th, Passover could be March 27th; If the New Moon is April 1st, Passover is April 16th. etc.

It's more often than not in April, but it does fall in late March every so many years.

Assuming Jesus was born in 6 BC (based on when Herod was the king of Israel), because there was not a year 0 (thanks to Europeans strangely thinking at the time zero is not a number), his age would be ~35 if he died in 30 AD. This goes against what I had read years earlier: that Jesus was only 31-33 years old. Of course my early information could have been incorrect but this does open the possibility he died in 28 AD. Have you been able to estimate his age at the time of the Crucifixion?

His age should be 31-33 depending on whether one holds to the 69/70 week ministry theory or sticks with the traditional 3.5 year ministry. I myself hold to the 69/70 week ministry, which is why I also think his ministry must have occurred during a leap year. The additional month would bring his ministry to the proper 483 days; if Daniel's prophecy about 70 weeks is duel. I personally think there's one (literal) week remaining in his ministry which he will fulfill at His return.
 
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