Could Buttigieg Be A Compromise Democratic Candidate?

[mark46]

I have no doubt that Warren would lose big time, as well as anyone else who supports her positions, especially on healthcare, taxes and education.
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I also have little doubt that so-called progressives would stay home if Biden were nominated.
Biden may or may not be able to win without them.
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I've been considering whether Buttigieg could emerge in March as a possible compromise candidate. For argument's sake, I would expect him to choose a non-controversial woman as his VP, probably someone with business and economic experience. Military experience would be a plus.
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I understand that white evangelicals won't vote for a homosexual. That matters little. They will be voting Republican in about the same numbers as last time.
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The great advantage of Mayor Pete is that he has few negatives. If he runs on 3-4 issues (as should always be the case), he could win. He would need the hard work of Democrats in working on maximizing turnout in the suburbs and among Latinos and African-Americans.
Trump words and actions will be the Democrat's best campaign. A yes, they would need to focus on health care, climate, gun violence and corruption (my four; the 4 could be different).

 

[essentialsaltes]

I like Mayor Pete okay. I'd be happy with him as either a candidate for President or VP. I think the country as a whole has moved really rapidly on acceptance of gay people. Particularly since all the strident cries of disaster (dogs and cats living together) have been shown to be entirely baloney.

He's certainly not my only choice or even my preferred choice, but I'm cool with this.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The only chance the Dems have is a failing economy or a new war. Trump holds all the cards. Even the 'wall' is likely to help him as positive results appear.

 

[JohnAshton]

First Correction: Warren can beat Trump like a drum. The economy continues to fail because of Trump's mistakes and a global softness that is going to take a major correction. Plus the bad effects of Brexit may be far worse than we suspect.

Second Correction: No to "Could Buttigieg Be A Compromise Democratic Candidate?"

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

The only chance the Dems have is a failing economy or a new war. Trump holds all the cards.

I agree with the first part, anyway. I'm not so sure Trump holds all of the cards. I think the economy depends on a lot of other people not associated with government, mostly, except when it comes to destroying it, in which case there's much more than the President to consider. We'll be lucky if the Democrats don't talk the economy to pieces in their race to the top of the dog pile. As for war...some people find it, and some have it thrust upon them.

I understand that white evangelicals won't vote for a homosexual.

Historically, homosexual heads of state do some strange unpredictable things. I'd rather have anyone else.

 

[Tanj]

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Historically, homosexual heads of state do some strange unpredictable things.

Ooh, please do elaborate! especially with providing evidence.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Historically, homosexual heads of state do some strange unpredictable things. I'd rather have anyone else.

Strange and unpredictable is where we've been the last three years. What could be so strange and unpredictable from a monogamous married gay guy?

 

[Fantine]

I think that Buttigieg would be a good candidate. He is brilliant. He is a millenial. He is focused on the present and the future, not the past. He has military experience. He bases many of his political positions on his Christian faith. As a liberal Christian myself, I am glad that there is another Christian out there talking about the oft-neglected gospel messages of Jesus on the second great commandment--loving your neighbor as yourself.

I think he would need an African-American running mate. I kind of like Stacey Abrams. She is dynamic and passionate and will keep America focused on having an HONEST voting process, free of supression and corruption.

Buttigieg's numbers rose after the last debate. He is in 4th place at 7%. Warren improved her lead over Bernie (Biden is at 33%, Warren at 25%, and Bernie at 14%).

What I like about Buttigieg is that he is very Obamaesque He never loses his cool. Trump rants and raves and Buttigieg humorously dismisses his criticisms with a single sentence that both eviscerates and reveals Trump for who he is.

Example: Trump calls Buttigieg "Alfred E. Newman." Buttigieg says, "I have wanted our country to raise the level of our political discourse and was happy the president used a "literary reference."'

LOL! Knockout punch. Everyone laughs. Trump is shown to be both small-minded and illiterate...

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I think that Buttigieg would be a good candidate. He is brilliant. He is a millenial. He is focused on the present and the future, not the past. He has military experience. He bases many of his political positions on his Christian faith. As a liberal Christian myself, I am glad that there is another Christian out there talking about the oft-neglected gospel messages of Jesus on the second great commandment--loving your neighbor as yourself.

I think he would need an African-American running mate. I kind of like Stacey Abrams. She is dynamic and passionate and will keep America focused on having an HONEST voting process, free of supression and corruption.

Buttigieg's numbers rose after the last debate. He is in 4th place at 7%. Warren improved her lead over Bernie (Biden is at 33%, Warren at 25%, and Bernie at 14%).

What I like about Buttigieg is that he is very Obamaesque He never loses his cool. Trump rants and raves and Buttigieg humorously dismisses his criticisms with a single sentence that both eviscerates and reveals Trump for who he is.

Example: Trump calls Buttigieg "Alfred E. Newman." Buttigieg says, "I have wanted our country to raise the level of our political discourse and was happy the president used a "literary reference."'

LOL! Knockout punch. Everyone laughs. Trump is shown to be both small-minded and illiterate...

What's his record as mayor?

 

[FenderTL5]

I have no doubt that Warren would lose big time, as well as anyone else who supports her positions, especially on healthcare, taxes and education.

I don't know why you would say that. Addressing Healthcare and Education along with wages and associated income inequality issues should be the democrats' strongest policies.
It's the areas where the republicans have failed most.

I also have little doubt that so-called progressives would stay home if Biden were nominated.
Biden may or may not be able to win without them.

Mostly agree, but again it could be dependent on how he chooses to address healthcare, wages and education.

I've been considering whether Buttigieg could emerge in March as a possible compromise candidate. For argument's sake, I would expect him to choose a non-controversial woman as his VP, probably someone with business and economic experience. Military experience would be a plus.
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I understand that white evangelicals won't vote for a homosexual. That matters little. They will be voting Republican in about the same numbers as last time.
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The great advantage of Mayor Pete is that he has few negatives. If he runs on 3-4 issues (as should always be the case), he could win. He would need the hard work of Democrats in working on maximizing turnout in the suburbs and among Latinos and African-Americans.
Trump words and actions will be the Democrat's best campaign. A yes, they would need to focus on health care, climate, gun violence and corruption (my four; the 4 could be different).

I've thought Buttigieg presents more as a VP. BUT, if you are correct Tulsi Gabbard would seemingly be the female VP you are describing.

 

[GACfan]

Strange and unpredictable is where we've been the last three years. What could be so strange and unpredictable from a monogamous married gay guy?

Is it because he's not twice divorced and currently married to a former mistress or is it because he didn't have an affair with a inappropriate content star and later pay her off to silence her or is it because he didn't use vulgar language to brag about how he could forcibly kiss women and grope them because he's a celebrity? It's become rather obvious that being a homosexual is a much worse sexual sin than being an adulterous womanizer to many conservative Christians. Apparently adultery and womanizing can be conveniently overlooked and excused, but homosexuality must be condemned no matter what.

 

[JohnAshton]

Strange and unpredictable?

Someone is talking about Trump's characteristics again?

Too many "Christians" excuse adultery, womanizing, and sexual assault but attack homosexuality.

For shame.

 

[GACfan]

{snip} Historically, homosexual heads of state do some strange unpredictable things. I'd rather have anyone else.

Historically, it's the anti-LGBT politicians who turn out to be gay who do strange and unpredictable things. As demonstrated here: 20 Republican Politicians Brought Down By Big Gay Sex Scandals and here: Anti-Gay Ohio Republican Resigns After, Surprise, Having Sex with a Man in the State Capitol.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Historically, homosexual heads of state do some strange unpredictable things. I'd rather have anyone else.

lol, how far back are you going? Greece?

 

[Albion]

I've been considering whether Buttigieg could emerge in March as a possible compromise candidate. For argument's sake, I would expect him to choose a non-controversial woman as his VP, probably someone with business and economic experience. Military experience would be a plus.

It's become apparent, over the course of the past several months, that he is as extreme as some of the others--and somewhat kooky as well. None of that was apparent when he, an unknown, first declared; but it is now. Plus, he has a dismal record as the mayor of South Bend and nothing more significant on his resume than being the mayor of a mid-sized American city. At least Warren, Booker, Harris, and Sanders can say they are experienced members of Congress.

 

[iluvatar5150]

It's become apparent, over the course of the past several months, that he is as extreme as some of the others--and somewhat kooky as well. All of that wasn't apparent when he, an unknown, first declared; but it is now. Plus, he has a dismal record as the mayor of South Bend and nothing more significant on his resume than being the mayor of a mid-sized American city. At least Warren, Booker, Harris, and Sanders can say they are experienced members of Congress.

It would be better if he was the heir of a successful real estate development firm, manager of a few moderately successful golf courses and a few failed casinos, and host of a tv game show.

 

[JohnAshton]

Trump is far more extreme and kooky than any of the Dems.

 

[Albion]

Trump is far more extreme and kooky than any of the Dems.

If you think so. But the idea here was to find a Dem who would beat Trump. Is it your idea that matching him on point after point is the sure way to do that?

What's his record as mayor?

South Bend is a declining city with a high crime rate. Meanwhile, the mayor is usually out of time campaigning. Quite a record to run on, wouldn't you say?

 

[iluvatar5150]

If you think so. But the idea here was to find a Dem who would beat Trump. Is it your idea that matching him on point after point is the sure way to do that?

None of the Democrat contenders come even close to matching him point-for-point.

South Bend is a declining city with a high crime rate. Meanwhile, the mayor is usually out of time campaigning. Quite a record to run on, wouldn't you say?

By what metrics is it a declining city? How does their crime rate compare to other cities?

 

[Albion]

It's become apparent, over the course of the past several months, that he is as extreme as some of the others--and somewhat kooky as well. None of that was apparent when he, an unknown, first declared; but it is now. Plus, he has a dismal record as the mayor of South Bend and nothing more significant on his resume than being the mayor of a mid-sized American city. At least Warren, Booker, Harris, and Sanders can say they are experienced members of Congress.

It would be better if he was the heir of a successful real estate development firm, manager of a few moderately successful golf courses and a few failed casinos, and host of a tv game show.

It would indeed be better if he were the head of a number of businesses operating around the world, familiar with negotiating internationally, and so on. It might even be good if he were the mayor of a large city that is the hub of business and commerce, like Mayor DiBlasio, for example. Or even a former officeholder of some important positions.

Other than for his position as mayor of South Bend, "Mayor Pete" has formerly been the loser in contests for several other positions, one a Democratic Party position and the other as the Democratic nominee for Indiana state treasurer in which he received 37.5% of the vote.

No matter what you like in him, that's not a powerhouse resume!