Confused about the commandment that was "abolished." (2)

[Sophrosyne]

View almost two hours of SDA teaching?

Not very tempting.

If you can't explain what you mean by 'faith' in one post in your own words then I reckon you have already lost the debate.

Pretty much passing the buck.

 

[astein]

I disagree wih your logic. I disagree that the Holy Spirit leads one back to the law. You should read Gal 5 on the subject.

bugkiller

Back? Your saying that Gods ways(Law of God), are considered back into bondage?

Stealing, killing and adultry, bearing false witness, rejecting God, coveting are against God. The Holy Spirit leads to life, God. The Holy Spirit is God. Fighting against the 10 commandments only proves that the one fighting against the 10 commandments is against God. The 10 commandments are for God.

 

[astein]

I do not understand why you continue to ask this question that has been answered many times. Is it only because you are demanding an answer you want?

bugkiller

I think it is a reasonable question, that deserves a reasonable response. If one ask to go a mile, go two.

 

[astein]

So how do we, who are non-Jews, follow that Torah? As the Jews do today?



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How does one believe in the Holy Bible? By God alone.

Torah is first 5 books. The gospels speak highly of Moses. Who rejects the validity of Adam when the gospels proclaim it? Believe in the Torah now?

 

[astein]

Such as those who keep the Fri-Sat Sabbath group vs the Sunday worship group





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Does one seriously attempt to reject another by days of worship?

Wouldn't that line up with the "touch not, taste not" crowd?

Who is so minimal that they condemn another based on days of worship?

God is worthy to be praised every day.

 

[astein]

Great question . Will it be answered ?

Are the 10 Commandments good?

 

[astein]

One wonders why Seventh Day Adventists make such a song and dance about worshipping on Saturdays instead of Sundays.

One wonders about the traditions of the catholic church. Love is love, regardless of divisional religion and tradiion.

 

[astein]

Why do we need the sacrifice of Christ Jesus to begin with?

Amazing Point! (I respond as a man) Lol. God is good.

I enjoy your post, though I recognized some "complimenting others" on well there post against the 10 commandments and decided to portray a mirrior. No offense.

Flattery is a tool of the devil.

Apologies if I offended your post in anyway.

 

[astein]

Then one needs a restoration of the sabbath. Is there one? So far no SDA has posted one that I have read.

bugkiller

Is worshipping on the sabbath wrong, from your perspective?

 

[astein]

Then indeed you teach one can possess salvation without Jesus.

bugkiller

I didn't witness that from his post. Care to explain your stance?

 

[astein]

It is because they believe keeping the sabbath is a requirement of salvation. Read all the forums, especially the old threads.

bugkilller

On the contrary, I view it as a way of disipline. Doing as the Lord instructs exactly.

Do I condemn another who worships on tuesdays? God forbid. Though I also don't realize a reason to condemn those worshipping on a certain day they are led to.

 

[astein]

I dont think you'll get a straight answer from SDA. Expect a question.............

Salvation is of God. If they worship on saturday, who is ignorant enough to comdemn them?

If your worship is on sunday, what is the difference? Have you both not prescribed a certain day? God is perfect, who is to go against God? Loving one another is the true bearing of a believer in God versus an enemy of God.

 

[astein]

So tell me who is saved... the person that accepts Jesus by faith or the one that tries (and fails) to not dishonor their parents, cheat on their spouse, covet, lie, steal, blaspheme God's name, worship idols?

God have mercy on the faulters that fail to live up to His ways.

The point is, do you willfully reject Gods ways(by preaching against the law of God), or accept them?

 

[astein]

Who rejects God more? One that rejects the 10 commandments or one that abides in them?

 

[astein]

Why yes sir no law means we are to commit evil acts. You should read the NT sometime.

bugkiller

So your restricted? How can that be when your rejecting the 10 commandments? What law are you enforcing?

 

[astein]

I don't keep the Sabbath.... I'm not Jewish

Do you want a cookie?

Do you condemn those keeping the sabbath, or is it ok?

 

[astein]

No.... only the Jewish people were given the sabbath everyone else keeping it is for nought because they are not Jews and the blessings of the Old Covenant don't apply to non Jews. Being a Christian doesn't make you a Jew.

Old Covenant Jews have a blessing unknown to creation? Where?

 

[astein]

So those who are trying to keep the Law are not keeping it by abstaining from ALL meats eh?

Who is "trying to keep the law", when God Himself is the law?

 

[Sophrosyne]

God have mercy on the faulters that fail to live up to His ways.

The point is, do you willfully reject Gods ways(by preaching against the law of God), or accept them?

Do you willingly reject the new covenant for the old?

 

[Sophrosyne]

Do you want a cookie?

Do you condemn those keeping the sabbath, or is it ok?

Do you condemn those who don't keep it, or is it ok to not do so?