Common Core promoting Islam!!!!

[morningstar2651]

Try reading the book Arrogance by Bernard Goldberg sometime.

I assume you think the book would answer all these questions so you don't have to.

• Judging by a skim of the book's description on Amazon, I conclude that you believe that "the media" seeks to convert the schoolchildren of Farmville to Islam?
• How does "the media" benefit from this sinister plot?
• What role did "the media" play in the creation of common core standards?
• Certainly "the media" couldn't have acted alone, could they? Who else is involved in this conspiracy?
• Arrogance was published in 2003 - has the conspiracy to convert these children to Islam been around for 11 years?

 

[Belk]

I never said there was a conspiracy... You don't need a conspiracy when you have a bunch of people with a very similar mindset and a tendency of intolerance towards people that disagree with them.

Who is this group of people? Of whom are they intolerant and how is that translating into promotion of Islam in common core? Most importantly what evidence do we have that this is the case?

 

[GarfieldJL]

I assume you think the book would answer all these questions so you don't have to.

I'm suggesting you read it, because it lays out fairly clearly how people can end up pushing an agenda without realizing they are pushing it...

Who is this group of people? Of whom are they intolerant and how is that translating into promotion of Islam in common core? Most importantly what evidence do we have that this is the case?

Try reading the book.

 

[Blue Wren]

I'm more alarmed that seniors in American high schools are learning those vocabulary words. That seems a bit old, no? I'm Swedish; English is not my native language. We learned all those words by age 13. We also had lessons about Islam, mainly because it wasn't a religion we were as familiar with, and there's an increasing Muslim population in Sweden. It never occurred to me to be offended that Christianity and Judaism weren't also taught, as most of us already knew the basics of those religions.

 

[Sistrin]

Sistrin provided assertions from blithering paranoia masquerading as "journalism."

Yeah? Which ones?

WFTV.com?

The Daily Caller?

Common Core dot Org?

IPT dot Org?

CPalms dot Org? (the Florida Education Dept. web site)

The Prentice Hall Website?

The Examiner?

The New York Times?

The PDF written by the Muslim Brotherhood?

From your comment it is clear the only link you clicked on was the Freedom Outpost site, which I understand would be derided because it is maintained by people interested in freedom. However the story source there was reported by the Huffington Post as well as other news outlets. Your claim of paranoid whatever is unfounded.

 

[Sistrin]

We learned all those words by age 13.

That is a good point. Common Core is called common for a reason.

 

[morningstar2651]

I'm suggesting you read it, because it lays out fairly clearly how people can end up pushing an agenda without realizing they are pushing it...



Try reading the book.

I've got better things to read. I somehow doubt your book explains who is plotting to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims or why...or how...or even when.

Can you give us the Cliff's notes, or is it safe to assume you're throwing wild accusations with no evidence?

EDIT: I provided you with the text of common core standards, and instead of reading them you declared the common core website to be an unreliable source to read the common core standards. Because Obama.

Why should I read your book if you won't even read the common core standards before making ridiculous posts about them?

 

[USincognito]

Try reading the book Arrogance by Bernard Goldberg sometime.

In which chapter does he tell us who the members of this intolerant, shadowy cabal conspiring to convert the schoolchildren of Farmville, NC to Islam are?

 

[USincognito]

This is three ways of saying the same thing. However:

Common Core Islamic Indoctrination Textbook Has Floridians Outraged

Common Core Islamic indoctrination of students in American schools is overt. This is the goal. In Volusia County Florida, hundreds are protesting the ode to Islam that is "World History," a Common Core approved high school history textbook. With an entire chapter dedicated to the virtues of Islam, and not a single chapter for Christianity, the textbook has Floridians in a frenzy.

Standard 2 SS.912.W.2: Recognize significant events, figures, and contributions of medieval civilizations (Byzantine Empire, Western Europe, Japan). read more​

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SS.912.W.2 - Recognize significant events, figures, and contributions of medieval civilizations (Byzantine Empire, Western Europe, Japan). | CPALMS.org

SS.912.W.2.In.b: Identify the impact of the establishment of “New Rome” by Constantine the Great with Christianity as the official religion.

SS.912.W.2.In.e: Identify contributions of the Byzantine Empire, such as the development of Western Europe, Islamic civilization, and spread of Christianity in Eastern Europe (Slavic peoples).

SS.912.W.2.In.l: Recognize ways Christian monasteries and convents helped the people through education, charity, and agriculture.

SS.912.W.2.In.m: Identify the major influences in Western Civilization that fostered cultural unity.

SS.912.W.2.In.q: Identify figures, such as Thomas Aquinas and Roger Bacon, and achievements, such as the advancement of education and law, of the medieval period in Western Europe.

SS.912.W.2.Pa.b: Recognize Christianity as a religion.

SS.912.W.2.Pa.l: Recognize a social support provided by religious organizations.​

But hey, why do your own homework*, just find a mention of Islam, link to a reliable news source like Freedom Outpost, claim, without support, that the entire textbook is a Koran in disguise and mandated by Common Core and let the perpetually outraged froth and scream.

* see what I did there

 

[USincognito]

From the book itself:

From the Prentice Hall's World History textbook summary of the chapter on Islam, quote:

The religion of Islam, founded by Muhammad, emerged on the Arabian Peninsula in the 600s. According to Muslim tradition, Muhammad was chosen to be the last and greatest prophet of Allah, the one true God. Muhammad devoted his life to spreading Islam. All Muslims embrace five pillars of faith. For Muslims, the Quran is the final authority on all matters of religion and daily life.

Arab armies, inspired by Muhammad's teachings, spread Islam through parts of three continents. In many areas, people welcomed Islamic teachings and the benefits of Muslim rule.

Source: Pearson Prentice Hall: Web Codes

Cool. Islam gets a whole chapter while Christianity is never mentioned once in the book, right?

Pearson Prentice Hall: Web Codes
Ancient Rome and the Rise of Christianity (509 B.C.–A.D. 476)

Section 4: The Rise of Christianity

A new religion, Christianity, emerged in the Roman empire. It gradually spread and became the official religion of the empire.​

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The Rise of Europe (500–1300)

The dominant forces during the early Middle Ages were feudalism, the manor economy, and the Roman Catholic Church.
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The Roman Catholic Church, with both spiritual and secular power, dominated life in the Middle Ages. Monks and nuns provided society with spiritual, social, economic, and cultural benefits. However, abuses within the Church brought about the need for reform.​

Pearson Prentice Hall: Web Codes
The High and Late Middle Ages (1050–1450)

Pearson Prentice Hall: Web Codes
The Byzantine Empire, Russia, and Eastern Europe (330–1613)

As heir to the western Roman empire, the Byzantine empire promoted a brilliant civilization that blended ancient Greek, Roman, and Christian influences with other traditions of the Mediterranean world.
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Russia was profoundly influenced by Byzantine culture. Trade between the two cultures first introduced Russia to Orthodox Christianity.​

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The Renaissance and Reformation (1300–1650)

Section 3: The Protestant Reformation
The ideas of Martin Luther and John Calvin led people to separate from the Roman Catholic Church and form new Protestant churches.

Section 4: Reformation Ideas Spread
Both the Protestant and Catholic reformations brought sweeping changes to Europe.​

But don't pay any attention to the rest of the text book, they have a chapter on Islam - Ooooo Noez!!! Clearly it's creeping Sharia! No 'Murican text book should ever mention Islam except to tell children to be afraid and drink your Ovaltine or else a Moslem will cut your head off!

 

[Belk]

I'm suggesting you read it, because it lays out fairly clearly how people can end up pushing an agenda without realizing they are pushing it...



Try reading the book.

No. Your book is not related and I feel no desire to read it. How about instead you back up your claims? Wild stories about horrible corruption are useless without evidence to back them up.

 

[morningstar2651]

Standard 2 SS.912.W.2: Recognize significant events, figures, and contributions of medieval civilizations (Byzantine Empire, Western Europe, Japan). read more​

Click on read more.
Click on access points.
SS.912.W.2 - Recognize significant events, figures, and contributions of medieval civilizations (Byzantine Empire, Western Europe, Japan). | CPALMS.org

SS.912.W.2.In.b: Identify the impact of the establishment of “New Rome” by Constantine the Great with Christianity as the official religion.

SS.912.W.2.In.e: Identify contributions of the Byzantine Empire, such as the development of Western Europe, Islamic civilization, and spread of Christianity in Eastern Europe (Slavic peoples).

SS.912.W.2.In.l: Recognize ways Christian monasteries and convents helped the people through education, charity, and agriculture.

SS.912.W.2.In.m: Identify the major influences in Western Civilization that fostered cultural unity.

SS.912.W.2.In.q: Identify figures, such as Thomas Aquinas and Roger Bacon, and achievements, such as the advancement of education and law, of the medieval period in Western Europe.

SS.912.W.2.Pa.b: Recognize Christianity as a religion.

SS.912.W.2.Pa.l: Recognize a social support provided by religious organizations.​

But hey, why do your own homework*, just find a mention of Islam, link to a reliable news source like Freedom Outpost, claim, without support, that the entire textbook is a Koran in disguise and mandated by Common Core and let the perpetually outraged froth and scream.

* see what I did there

SS.912.W.2.In.e: Identify contributions of the Byzantine Empire, such as the development of Western Europe, Islamic civilization, and spread of Christianity in Eastern Europe (Slavic peoples).​

This is a much needed update to high school history education. The majority of it has historically been focused exclusively on Western European history. High school students know a lot about the Roman empire, but barely scratch the surface of the Byzantine empire.

As for my criticism of the standards, all of these history standards are at the lowest level of Bloom's Taxonomy of educational objectives. I think we ought to raise these standards beyond the level of knowledge (the regurgitation of facts) to comprehension at the bare minimum. For children to retain the knowledge of history, they must explore it beyond reciting the facts. The standards aren't bad, but they could be better.

 

[Sistrin]

But hey, why do your own homework*, just find a mention of Islam, link to a reliable news source like Freedom Outpost, claim, without support, that the entire textbook is a Koran in disguise and mandated by Common Core and let the perpetually outraged froth and scream.

* see what I did there

Yes, very clearly. You created a strawman and then gleefully set about trying to knock it down. I have already had to explain this step by step to CaDan, so I guess I can do it again for you.

For the third time in this thread. In post number 141 Morningstar said this:

Common core says nothing about religion.

Common core says zero things about religion.

Religion is not a part of the common core.

My post number 170 was in response to these claims, which were really three ways of saying the exact same thing but repeated for effect, I suppose. I effectively showed that morningstar was wrong, Common Core does "say things" about religion.

If you had actually read post number 170, or indeed had actually read any of my post, you would have seen this. But you haven't bothered to actually read any of them, which you make painfully clear here:

...link to a reliable news source like Freedom Outpost...

I have already addressed this point as well. The same story I sourced there has been reported by multiple news outlets. Would it have been any less painful for you to have read it from the Huffington Post?

...claim, without support, that the entire textbook is a Koran in disguise...

A strawman within a strawman. Post where I made any such claim as this. Again, if you had bothered to actually read my post, you would be able to address what I actually said as opposed to having to make stuff up. However I cited both the CPalms site and Common Core dot org to support my points. You cited the CPalms site to support knocking down your strawman.

...and mandated by Common Core and let the perpetually outraged froth and scream...

The textbook was one approved to comply with Common Core standards. As for the perpetually outraged, my opposition to both Common Core and radical Islam is not dependent on the potential to offend one of the terminally myopic.

Common Core is a set of standards crafted largely by progressives, standards based on sheer idiocy such as this, quote:

"Is this right?" Admittedly, I flinch a little when I hear these words from a student. Why? They always serve as a reminder of the wrong turn education has taken. (Or maybe it's always been like this.) It's not their fault, but students are all too often on a quest for the Correct Answers, which has little to do with critical-thinking development, I'm afraid.

Source: When Teaching the Right Answers Is the Wrong Direction | Edutopia

Common Core is designed to produce students which have all met a minimum standard of education, that minimum standard set by people who believe such nonsense such as "answer-getting’ sounds pejorative," and "the new tests (at least in NY) appear subjective and are all about getting the answers right. What is the thinking behind this?"

Source: Phil Daro - Against "Answer-Getting" on Vimeo

What is the thinking behind getting the answer right? What planet is this moron from? One answer is the same planet which would produce people too afraid to pose such obvious questions as why are CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood, and INSA all such rabid supporters of Common Core, especially considering the promotion of Islam is appearing in lessons designed to satisfy Common Core standards.

Cool. Islam gets a whole chapter while Christianity is never mentioned once in the book, right?

Righteous indignation is fine, if you have some actual facts to back it up. Take this dare, post for us where in this thread I said any such thing. I'll wait.

But don't pay any attention to the rest of the text book, they have a chapter on Islam...

Again, if you had bothered to actually read the post you are responding to you would know the argument made was an entire chapter devoted to Islam while no entire chapters were devoted to any other religion.

Clearly it's creeping Sharia!

If you had bothered to read the material provided...

Again, it is hard to try and hide behind the conspiracy canard when the Islamic groups clearly spell out their goals and intentions.

No 'Murican text book should ever mention Islam except to tell children to be afraid and drink your Ovaltine or else a Moslem will cut your head off!

Why do you guys always resort to this tactic, speaking in a manufactured dialect meant to imply everyone who disagrees with you is stupid? Seriously, why? Each and every time this tactic is employed the same inane bastardized use of the word America is trotted out, as if people who disagree with you can't comprehend the term America. Or is arguing strawmen your favorite thing to do?

 

[morningstar2651]

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I effectively showed that morningstar was wrong, Common Core does "say things" about religion.

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The textbook was one approved to comply with Common Core standards. As for the perpetually outraged, my opposition to both Common Core and radical Islam is not dependent on the potential to offend one of the terminally myopic.

Common Core is a set of standards crafted largely by progressives, standards based on sheer idiocy...

...What planet is this moron from? One answer is the same planet which would produce people too afraid to pose such obvious questions as why are CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood, and INSA all such rabid supporters of Common Core, especially considering the promotion of Islam is appearing in lessons designed to satisfy Common Core standards.

Again, if you had bothered to actually read the post you are responding to you would know the argument made was an entire chapter devoted to Islam while no entire chapters were devoted to any other religion.

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Again, it is hard to try and hide behind the conspiracy canard when the Islamic groups clearly spell out their goals and intentions.

Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous.

Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous:

• Common core does not promote Islam.
• There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims.

Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous. Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous.

Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous.

 

[morningstar2651]

Here we have it folks! The grand conspiracy between the Department of Education, the Council on American–Islamic Relations, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Intelligence & National Security Alliance to covertly convert the children of Farmville, NC to Islam by setting standards for K-12 education.

I'd like to applaud Sistrin for being such an astute whistleblower and shining light on this sinister plot to corrupt our youth. If it weren't for the work of Todd Starnes, Garfield, and Sistrin, we might all be under Sharia law by this time next year. Worse, our students might receive educations of a higher quality!

We mustn't allow our children to receive educations on par with those of other first-world countries! If we do, then the Muslims win!

 

[morningstar2651]

In all seriousness - if you aren't an expert on curriculum design, instructional design, or some subsection of education field related to the setting and measuring of learning outcomes, then I really don't care what your opinion of Common Core is because your opinion is not an expert opinion and you're probably wrong.

I have over four years of professional experience in this field and I have read the Common Core standards. Common core does not promote Islam. The premise of this thread is ridiculous.

 

[TLK Valentine]

In all seriousness - if you aren't an expert on curriculum design, instructional design, or some subsection of education field related to the setting and measuring of learning outcomes, then I really don't care what your opinion of Common Core is because your opinion is not an expert opinion and you're probably wrong.

I have over four years of professional experience in this field and I have read the Common Core standards. Common core does not promote Islam. The premise of this thread is ridiculous.

Agreed -- as a fellow educator who is required to use Common Core in my lesson plans, I second this.

 

[gnomon]

this thread still exists?

Of course it does.

There are those with a dim view of history and a dim view of history attempting to do nothing more than paint Muslims in a negative light based upon ridiculous assertions.

Never mind many of us have asked for concrete examples those bleeting the OP have failed to deliver.

 

[GarfieldJL]

Of course it does.

There are those with a dim view of history and a dim view of history attempting to do nothing more than paint Muslims in a negative light based upon ridiculous assertions.

Never mind many of us have asked for concrete examples those bleeting the OP have failed to deliver.

So you're saying Sistrin never posted what I'm quoting below...

This is three ways of saying the same thing. However:

Common Core Islamic Indoctrination Textbook Has Floridians Outraged


Common Core Islamic indoctrination of students in American schools is overt. This is the goal. In Volusia County Florida, hundreds are protesting the ode to Islam that is "World History," a Common Core approved high school history textbook. With an entire chapter dedicated to the virtues of Islam, and not a single chapter for Christianity, the textbook has Floridians in a frenzy. And who is the biggest pusher of Common Cores besides leftist progressives? The Islamic Society of North America, another Muslim Brotherhood front group, along with Hamas-CAIR; and in Florida, Hamas-CAIR is on the offensive.


Source: Common Core Islamic Indoctrination Textbook "World History" Has Floridians Outraged


Before this is summarily dismissed, the statement from the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, quote:


"The name of the FB page and intolerant comments is troubling. This group is holding a protest and rally to oppose the teaching of the historical and basic Pillars of Islam to students in Volusia County. This group is displaying an alarming level of intolerance and brazen disregard of minority religions here in the US. We find their actions Un-American and against every core principal that makes this country so great," the Muslim civil liberties group said."


Source: Hundreds prepare protest against Islam chapter in Volusia Co.... | www.wftv.com

CAIR has been tied to Hamas:


CAIR Exposed - As IAP Offshoot, CAIR Followed Pro-Hamas Agenda From the Start


This context helps explain why federal authorities have tied the CAIR to Hamas in three separate court filings in the past year. Prosecutors place CAIR on the Muslim Brotherhood's "Palestine Committee." An internal Palestine Committee document in 1994 lists CAIR as one of its "working organizations" along with IAP. Other records show that committee was created to advance the Hamas agenda within the United States.

Source: Part 1: CAIR Exposed: As IAP Offshoot, CAIR Followed Pro-Hamas Agenda From the Start :: The Investigative Project on Terrorism


In relation to this the question is why would CAIR lament the protest of teaching the historical and basic Pillars of Islam to students in Volusia County if Volusia County were not teaching the historical and basic Pillars of Islam to their students?


This from the Daily Caller, quote:


The book’s supporters also argue that students know about Christianity but need to learn more about Islam because of its crucial importance in international affairs.


Source: Protest over Islam lovefest high school history textbook | The Daily Caller

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[TLK Valentine]

So you're saying Sistrin never posted what I'm quoting below...

So's law -- what we're saying is that what Sistrin posted is based on empty accusations, half-truths, ignorance of the educational system, paranoid assumptions, and the occasional flat-out lie.

Not saying that Sistin did any of these things, mind you -- he's just the messenger...