Common Core promoting Islam!!!!

[CaDan]

That is not the President's role, his job is to faithfully execute the laws, not usurp the powers of the legislative and judicial branches.

Veto power.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I was just gong to go back and point that out.

The President has the constitutional authority to veto legislation and legislation does need to be signed by the President to become law unless he lets go pass a certain date after the Congress passes it. Therefore, the process of passing legislation into laws is not solely in the hands of the legislature.

 

[GarfieldJL]

Veto power.

The veto is used to stop something from becoming law, that's entirely different from deciding whether or not an existing law is "fair."

 

[FreeinChrist]

The veto is used to stop something from becoming law, that's entirely different from deciding whether or not an existing law is "fair."

However, how is that some big political statement? It is a mildly wrong but hardly promoting a political agenda which is what you claimed back in post 153.

And again, it was a lesson from a private company, not the Common Core.

 

[CaDan]

The veto is used to stop something from becoming law, that's entirely different from deciding whether or not an existing law is "fair."

I would hope fairness would be a consideration in using the veto power. Do you believe the President should act in unfair ways?

 

[TLK Valentine]

And again, it was a lesson from a private company, not the Common Core.

This can't be stressed enough... Common Core, flawed as it is, did not do this.

I'm assuming truth matters in this discussion?

 

[GarfieldJL]

This can't be stressed enough... Common Core, flawed as it is, did not do this.

I'm assuming truth matters in this discussion?

As much as you would like to blame a business, the fact of the matter is that they would have had to been catering to a customer(s) with large purchasing power.

 

[TLK Valentine]

As much as you would like to blame a business, the fact of the matter is that they would have had to been catering to a customer(s) with large purchasing power.

I already said I wasn't blaming a business anymore -- once I realized that this was a single worksheet, and not a textbook, this could've come form anywhere... as you well know.

I assume truth matters in this discussion?

 

[FreeinChrist]

As much as you would like to blame a business, the fact of the matter is that they would have had to been catering to a customer(s) with large purchasing power.

The customers would be school districts. Not the Common Core.

The one little sentence in question is so mild, it is ridiculous to claim it is serving a political agenda.

The Common Core is a set of standards. Please provide the standard that promotes Islam as your title states.

 

[Sistrin]

Common core says nothing about religion.

Common core says zero things about religion.

Religion is not a part of the common core.

This is three ways of saying the same thing. However:

Common Core Islamic Indoctrination Textbook Has Floridians Outraged

Common Core Islamic indoctrination of students in American schools is overt. This is the goal. In Volusia County Florida, hundreds are protesting the ode to Islam that is "World History," a Common Core approved high school history textbook. With an entire chapter dedicated to the virtues of Islam, and not a single chapter for Christianity, the textbook has Floridians in a frenzy. And who is the biggest pusher of Common Cores besides leftist progressives? The Islamic Society of North America, another Muslim Brotherhood front group, along with Hamas-CAIR; and in Florida, Hamas-CAIR is on the offensive.

Source: Common Core Islamic Indoctrination Textbook "World History" Has Floridians Outraged

Before this is summarily dismissed, the statement from the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, quote:

"The name of the FB page and intolerant comments is troubling. This group is holding a protest and rally to oppose the teaching of the historical and basic Pillars of Islam to students in Volusia County. This group is displaying an alarming level of intolerance and brazen disregard of minority religions here in the US. We find their actions Un-American and against every core principal that makes this country so great," the Muslim civil liberties group said."

Source: Hundreds prepare protest against Islam chapter in Volusia Co.... | www.wftv.com

CAIR has been tied to Hamas:

CAIR Exposed - As IAP Offshoot, CAIR Followed Pro-Hamas Agenda From the Start

This context helps explain why federal authorities have tied the CAIR to Hamas in three separate court filings in the past year. Prosecutors place CAIR on the Muslim Brotherhood's "Palestine Committee." An internal Palestine Committee document in 1994 lists CAIR as one of its "working organizations" along with IAP. Other records show that committee was created to advance the Hamas agenda within the United States.

Source: Part 1: CAIR Exposed: As IAP Offshoot, CAIR Followed Pro-Hamas Agenda From the Start :: The Investigative Project on Terrorism

In relation to this the question is why would CAIR lament the protest of teaching the historical and basic Pillars of Islam to students in Volusia County if Volusia County were not teaching the historical and basic Pillars of Islam to their students?

This from the Daily Caller, quote:

The book’s supporters also argue that students know about Christianity but need to learn more about Islam because of its crucial importance in international affairs.

Source: Protest over Islam lovefest high school history textbook | The Daily Caller

First I doubt students know about Christianity at any level this comment supposes. However regarding the crucial importance of Islam in international affairs, I also doubt the chapter in question makes any mention of Islam advancing its religion one murder at a time.

From the CPalms Florida Standards Assessments website, one of the standards set for the presentation and study of World History:

Standard 3 SS.912.W.3: Recognize significant events, figures, and contributions of Islamic, Meso and South American, and Sub-Saharan African civilizations.

Source: Search Standards | CPALMS.org

From the Benchmark subset to this standard, quote:

SS.912.W.3.1: Discuss significant people and beliefs associated with Islam.

Source: SS.912.W.3 - Recognize significant events, figures, and contributions of Islamic, Meso and South American, and Sub-Saharan African civilizations. | CPALMS.org

From the book itself:

From the Prentice Hall's World History textbook summary of the chapter on Islam, quote:

The religion of Islam, founded by Muhammad, emerged on the Arabian Peninsula in the 600s. According to Muslim tradition, Muhammad was chosen to be the last and greatest prophet of Allah, the one true God. Muhammad devoted his life to spreading Islam. All Muslims embrace five pillars of faith. For Muslims, the Quran is the final authority on all matters of religion and daily life.

Arab armies, inspired by Muhammad's teachings, spread Islam through parts of three continents. In many areas, people welcomed Islamic teachings and the benefits of Muslim rule.

Source: Pearson Prentice Hall: Web Codes

At least they admit the Muslim faith was spread through force.

Florida is one of the states to adopt Common Core standards. From Common Core dot Org and a section devoted to teaching World History, quote:

The Rise of Islam: Religion Travels on a Road of Silk

Islam was the last of the three major monotheistic world religions to develop. Arising in the 7th century CE, it quickly expanded through military conquest and conversion of conquered peoples. Like earlier civilizations, the Islamic empires were marked with the combination of internal political strife and great cultural achievement.

Source: U.S. and World History | Common Core

So Common Core does "say things" about religions, including Islam.

Common core promotes no religions.

The assignment in question certainly did. In addition Common Core standards have also been shown to enjoy support from both the Muslim Brotherhood and the Islamic Society of North America. Their manifesto linked to in this article is quite telling.

U.S Schools Adopting Muslim Common Core Standard Idea

Source: This one I can't link to because of a few words in the comments section, but if you want to read over it, and the manifesto, just google or bing the above.

The assignment is not "common core".


The assignment was not created by common core.

Two ways of saying the same thing. However the assignment was crafted to meet and adhere to Common Core standards.

This isn't the first time something like this has occurred.

Common Core assignment asks Calif. students to question Holocaust

Did the Holocaust actually happen, or was it just a “propaganda tool that was used for political and monetary gain?" That's the question eighth-grade students in Rialto, Calif., were asked in an assignment designed to meet Common Core standards relating to critical learning skills, KTLA reported Monday.

“When tragic events occur in history, there is often debate about their actual existence,” the assignment says. “For example, some people claim the Holocaust is not an actual historical event, but instead is a propaganda tool that was used for political and monetary gain. Based upon your research on this issue, write an argumentative essay, utilizing cited textual evidence, in which you explain whether or not you believe the Holocaust was an actual event in history, or merely a political scheme created to influence public emotion and gain.

Source: Common Core assignment asks Calif. students to question Holocaust - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

The assignment was not created by the government.

No, but Common Core is and has been heavily promoted by the current administration and tied to states qualifying for Race To the Top funding.

"Although the Obama administration didn’t craft the standards, it weighed in heavily, using some of the $4.35 billion from the Race to the Top program to encourage states to adopt not only the Common Core (in itself, a good thing) but also frequent, high-stakes testing (which is deeply unpopular)."

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/28/opinion/sunday/rage-against-the-common-core.html?_r=0

The vocabulary assignment does not promote any religion.

Given how the sentences were worded, it most certainly does.

There are no mosques in Farmville, North Carolina.

Completely irrelevant.

There isn't a conspiracy in North Carolina to convert high school students to Islam.

There doesn't have to be. Organizations such as CAIR and INSA will handle that for them.

 

[Sistrin]

This is both funny and telling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GGAtLYppw

 

[gnomon]

I'm still waiting for evidence.

Not links to news sites complaining about the problem but any actual links providing the explicit texts in question.

And are people here actually questioning the value of Islamic society for many centuries and those Islamic societies contribution to modern though including trial by juries, right to remain silent, massive contributions to astronomy and mathematics and more.

Or are we going to latch onto the much later versions of Wahhabism and define all of modern Islamic society as being Wahhabist and lambast any textbook that points out Western Civilizations obligation to the Middle Age Islamic societies who contributed much in scientific and legal affairs?

I ask again because the prior posters absolutely failed......how is common core promoting and indoctrinating children into worshiping Allah. Please, no links FOX News where people complain about such but provide the actual text material in context to prove your point.

edit: In other words if you are making claim than you must do the work to provide the evidence. I'm not going to waste my time nor should anyone else.

 

[1000Flames]

This is both funny and telling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GGAtLYppw

This has nothing to do with the thread whatsoever. Even still, it doesn't "tell" anything.

 

[gnomon]

This is both funny and telling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GGAtLYppw

Well, I got all of them right.

But I'm not a kid on a nationally televised program put under a time limit.

And none of that had anything to do with the OP.

Also, it was mathematics. Proper mathematics. Calling it common core or non-common core was absolutely irrelevant.

Might have been telling about some but not the vast majority of us.

Again, and before I take this to the mod's as this thread being nothing more than a bash against Muslims, the OP made a claim that the Common Core was "promoting" Islam. Such as promoting the worship of Allah.

No one has presented any evidence as such. Yet I've seen numerous remarks in this thread disparaging Muslims and Islam as a whole. Anyone actually wish to make an attempt to substantiate the claims in the OP?

 

[Sistrin]

Again, and before I take this to the mod's as this thread being nothing more than a bash against Muslims, the OP made a claim that the Common Core was "promoting" Islam. Such as promoting the worship of Allah.

Seriously? Were down to making threats now?

However promoting the worship of Allah is not the only manner in which to promote Islam or the Islamic faith. Mentioning Mohammad in the manner the assignment did was a clear promotion of Islam, Mohammad, and the Islamic faith. However it did not directly call for worship of Allah.

No one has presented any evidence as such.

I suggest you actually read post number 170.

 

[gnomon]

Seriously? Were down to making threats now?

However promoting the worship of Allah is not the only manner in which to promote Islam or the Islamic faith. Mentioning Mohammad in the manner the assignment did was a clear promotion of Islam, Mohammad, and the Islamic faith. However it did not directly call for worship of Allah.



I suggest you actually read post number 170.

Read post 170.

It was absolutely useless. That was your post.

Your post was absolutely useless.

Because, once again, the point of this thread is that Common Core is promoting worship of Allah!

How many times can I say it before people get it.

Someone should either provide actual evidence that Common Core is promoting the worship of Allah or give up already.

Your video in post 171 was useless.

Your post in 170 gave zero evidence to support the OP.

That a course in history promotes the contributions of Islam is one thing. Actually, from what you and others have presented, the Common Core doesn't really go that far in that I have not read anywhere about the contributions of Islam in it's contributions to trial by jury and other aspects of Common Law that the English later accepted nor have I read much about the contributions of Islamic scientific societies and historical societies during the Middle Ages that later led to the contributions in Western European enlightenment. It's well known how the Middle Ages saw a lack of scientific and legal thought whereas Islamic societies were leading the way in those arenas.

Yeah. I'll resort to a threat. Namely that this entire thread is a lie and nothing more than attempt to malign an entire religious belief based upon a few individuals using this thread as nothing more than an attempt to malign an entire religious group. And if people on this forum wish to continue to do nothing more than malign an entire religion without even attempting to provide an intelligent argument than it should be reported. This is a Christian forum. Not an anti-Islamic forum.

Your post, 170, was nothing more than a rambling attempt by linking to a few news articles complaining about the same thing in the OP but was evidence of nothing.

Try again.

And please, no more Jeopardy videos that you think bear some relevance but don't upon the issue at hand.

edit: Have another go. Provide us with direct links to the source material stating that Common Core is promoting Islam. Not promoting the well known contributions Islamic societies have made to Western society, but that Common Core is promoting the worship of Allah because that is the claim being made. The onus is on you.

 

[Sistrin]

Because, once again, the point of this thread is that Common Core is promoting worship of Allah!

The thread title is Common Core Promotes Islam, not Common Core promotes the worship of Allah.

Your post in 170 gave zero evidence to support the OP.

I cited both the Florida standards drawn from Common Core and Common Core dot org, both of which specified the religious aspect of studying Islam. That was in response to the claim Common Core said nothing of either religion or Islam.

You are simply wrong.

 

[poolerboy0077]

The thread title is Common Core Promotes Islam, not Common Core promotes the worship of Allah.

You make no distinction between teaching facts about world religions versus promoting said religions?

 

[Manic Spinoza]

When history books mention Stalin and the USSR are they promoting communism?

 

[gnomon]

The thread title is Common Core Promotes Islam, not Common Core promotes the worship of Allah.



I cited both the Florida standards drawn from Common Core and Common Core dot org, both of which specified the religious aspect of studying Islam. That was in response to the claim Common Core said nothing of either religion or Islam.

You are simply wrong.

No, I'm not.

Because I read the OP and the linked articles in the OP.

Apparently nobody else actually has. I also read your links. They failed as well.

As well, promoting Islam and promoting the worship of Allah is the same thing. To declare otherwise would be like saying that promoting Christianity is not promoting the worship of Jesus. Hello?!

Try again. You failed that last time.

That Common Core makes mention of Islam is not promoting anything beyond understanding. If most members of this forum taking potshots against Islam actually understood the many contributions Islamic societies in the Middle Ages made to Western European civilization ...... they wouldn't be griping because they would have an intelligent understanding.