Common Core promoting Islam!!!!

[TLK Valentine]

So you're suggesting we take a website from the most Transparently Dishonest Administration in my lifetime at face value?

http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/development-process/


"The state-led effort to develop the Common Core State Standards was launched in 2009 by state leaders, including governors and state commissioners of education from 48 states, two territories and the District of Columbia, through their membership in the National Governors Association Center for Best Practices (NGA Center) and the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO). State school chiefs and governors recognized the value of consistent, real-world learning goals and launched this effort to ensure all students, regardless of where they live, are graduating high school prepared for college, career, and life."

So you're suggesting that there's a big ol' conspiracy, and everybody's in on it?

Or were you just going for an irrelevant jab at the Obama administration, and failed spectacularly?

 

[GarfieldJL]

Are you suggesting there is some hidden cabal within common core that is promoting Islam and covering it up? If not then yes, we expect you to show us in the common core guidelines were it states you should promote alternate religions like Islam.

You're missing the other way that Common Core could be used to promote Islam...

The regulators that are determining whether or not an education plan is in compliance with Common Core...

Common Core: How are books judged? - The Washington Post

 

[Belk]

You're missing the other way that Common Core could be used to promote Islam...

The regulators that are determining whether or not an education plan is in compliance with Common Core...

Common Core: How are books judged? - The Washington Post

Then show us how the data that suggests this Garfield. You are long on accusation and short on evidence.

 

[GarfieldJL]

Then show us how the data that suggests this Garfield. You are long on accusation and short on evidence.

Sistrin already provided evidence that would suggest this, I just pointed out what people seem to have been overlooking...

 

[Belk]

Sistrin already provided evidence that would suggest this, I just pointed out what people seem to have been overlooking...

Uh-huh. You will forgive my incredulity at a cabal of common core regulators attempting to indoctrinate school kids to Islam.

 

[GarfieldJL]

Uh-huh. You will forgive my incredulity at a cabal of common core regulators attempting to indoctrinate school kids to Islam.

I'm just looking at this from the obvious standpoint of it being another example of political correctness run amok.

 

[Bedford]

I'm just looking at this from the obvious standpoint of it being another example of political correctness run amok.

This also makes no sense. This is not political correctness. I would accept that it is common core trolling....which if true, worked well.

 

[GarfieldJL]

This also makes no sense. This is not political correctness.

Actually it is.

You see political correctness has a rather nasty habit of trying to go out of its way to show preferred minority groups in a positive light, while turning a blind-eye to negatives.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You're missing the other way that Common Core could be used to promote Islam...

So now we're going from "Common Core promoting Islam!!!!" to "Common Core could be used to promote Islam..."

Shift goalposts much?

Seriously, Garfield -- at this point, you need to just admit you were wrong. After all, at this point, what couldn't be used to promote Islam, and what would you have done to stop it?

You've been factually wrong post after post from, quite literally, the very beginning, so I'm asking you, seriously -- stop this now and try to salvage some shred of dignity.

 

[GarfieldJL]

So now we're going from "Common Core promoting Islam!!!!" to "Common Core could be used to promote Islam..."

Shift goalposts much?

Seriously, Garfield -- at this point, you need to just admit you were wrong. After all, at this point, what couldn't be used to promote Islam, and what would you have done to stop it?

You've been factually wrong post after post from, quite literally, the very beginning, so I'm asking you, seriously -- stop this now and try to salvage some shred of dignity.

I never shifted the goal posts. You were implying it wasn't possible, and I pointed out how it actually is possible.

Furthermore, Sistrin provided evidence to support the argument that Common Core is being used to promote Islam.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm just looking at this from the obvious standpoint of it being another example of political correctness run amok.

But it has nothing to do with Common Core, right? Tell me you've at least learned that...

 

[Bedford]

Actually it is.

You see political correctness has a rather nasty habit of trying to go out of its way to show preferred minority groups in a positive light, while turning a blind-eye to negatives.

There was no promotion of Islam, so there was no political correctness. The statements were neither positive or negative.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I never shifted the goal posts. You were implying it wasn't possible, and I pointed out how it actually is possible.

No, I was saying that it wasn't true. You've made yet another mistake.

Furthermore, Sistrin provided evidence to support the argument that Common Core is being used to promote Islam.

Sistrin provided assertions from blithering paranoia masquerading as "journalism." Very little would actually be called "evidence" by people who actually know how Common Core is applied.

 

[GarfieldJL]

No, I was saying that it wasn't true. You've made yet another mistake.

You were essentially saying it wasn't possible...

Sistrin provided assertions from blithering paranoia masquerading as "journalism." Very little would actually be called "evidence" by people who actually know how Common Core is applied.

Just because you say Sistrin's sources a bunch of "blithering paranoia," doesn't make them any less of a valid journalistic source.

 

[morningstar2651]

Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous.

Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous:

• Common core does not promote Islam.
• There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims.

Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous. Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous.

Common core does not promote Islam. There is no secret conspiracy to convert the children of Farmville into socialist Muslims. The premise of this thread is ridiculous.

 

[morningstar2651]

I'll just leave this here. Feel free to ask these questions of the conspiracy theorists until they realize the conspiracy is ridiculous.

Logistics

1. How large is the supposed conspiracy?
2. How many people are part of this conspiracy?
3. Are there enough of them to carry out the plan?
4. What infrastructure and resources does it need?
5. How much time and money did it take and where did this money come from?
6. If there are many thousands of conspirators, how are they organized?
7. Where are the secret conferences held?
8. How do they keep track of membership?
9. If they are organised through known channels or entities, how do they keep non-members who work there from uncovering the conspiracy?

Benefits

1. Who gains what from the conspiracy and for what price?
2. Is this the easiest way of gaining it? If not, why was it chosen over the easiest way?
3. If it is an old conspiracy — who gains what from maintaining it?

Exposure

1. How likely is it to remain covered up if it has gone on for a long time?
2. If there are thousands of conspirators, and the conspiracy has gone on for decades, why have none of them defected?
3. Why have none of them leaked the story?
4. If many conspirators are dead, why have none of them told the truth on their deathbeds, or in their wills?
5. There are many intelligence agencies associated with rival nations, with the ability to expose secrets. If, say, the United States government is running a global conspiracy, why have the French, Russian, or Chinese intelligence agencies never revealed it, to cause a major scandal in the United States (if all intelligence agencies are involved, see #2)? If they have, when and where did they do so?

Plausibility

1. Does belief in this theory require accepting inherently contradictive premises that the conspiring entities are incredibly competent, bone stupid, organized, clever, and hopelessly incompetent -- all at the same time?

 

[Belk]

I'm just looking at this from the obvious standpoint of it being another example of political correctness run amok.

There is nothing obvious about these conspiracy theories Garfield. There is no cabal, there is no political correctness run amok it is simply a lesson that mentions Islam. They had other lessons that mentioned other religions. It is a tempest in a teapot designed to get people who dislike common core and Islam angry. It comes from a well known crank who does this for a living.

 

[GarfieldJL]

There is nothing obvious about these conspiracy theories Garfield. There is no cabal, there is no political correctness run amok it is simply a lesson that mentions Islam. They had other lessons that mentioned other religions. It is a tempest in a teapot designed to get people who dislike common core and Islam angry. It comes from a well known crank who does this for a living.

I never said there was a conspiracy... You don't need a conspiracy when you have a bunch of people with a very similar mindset and a tendency of intolerance towards people that disagree with them.

 

[morningstar2651]

I never said there was a conspiracy... You don't need a conspiracy when you have a bunch of people with a very similar mindset and a tendency of intolerance towards people that disagree with them.

Who are the members of this intolerant shadowy cabal that conspire to convert the schoolchildren in Farmville to Islam, and what do they get out of this sinister plot? How will the achieve their goal by setting English and math standards for K-12 education?

 

[GarfieldJL]

Who are the members of this intolerant shadowy cabal that conspire to convert the schoolchildren in Farmville to Islam, and what do they get out of this sinister plot?

Try reading the book Arrogance by Bernard Goldberg sometime.