Christian President finds better way....

[Carey]

And Saddam had what to do with 9-11?

Saddam , Iran , Syria and any other coun try or organization that supports terrorist and does not call hezzbullah and hamas terrorist groups had a part in 9-11
passive or not still a part.

Here are a few links for ya.

1. IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism - Council on Foreign Relations
   ... type > backgrounder > IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism. Text Size ... few weeks after Saddam's fall from power, though, convincing proof of an Iraq-al ...
   www.cfr.org/background/background_iraq_ties.php - 28k - Cached - More from this site
2. Saddam Hussein's Philanthropy of Terror - by Deroy Murdock
   ... Hussein have ties to terrorism? ... any or all of these ties between Iraq and terrorism or Iraq and ... more evidence of Saddam's terror ties," By Laurie ...
   www.husseinandterror.com - 128k - Cached - More from this site
3. Saddam's Terror Training Camps
   What the documents captured from the former Iraqi regime reveal--and why they ... close ties to al Qaeda, chief among them Algeria's GSPC and the Sudanese Islamic ...
   weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/550kmbzd.asp - 28k - Cached - More from this site
4. Deroy Murdock on Iraq on National Review Online
   ... those who dismiss Saddam Hussein's ties to terrorism and, thus, belittle a key ... discovered a cache of documents in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, that show Iraq ...
   www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200310210934.asp - 43k - Cached - More from this site
5. saddam's files
   ... but they are already turning up new facts about Saddam's links to terrorism. ... group run by Saddam's son Uday and entrusted with doing much of the ...
   www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005133 - 44k - Cached - More from this site
6. al qaeda
   ... al-Ani, is the liaison of Saddam's intelligence service to a radical Muslim ... the current debate over Iraq's ties to terrorism is reminiscent of a debate ...

 

[tulc]

Lets see 9 -11 we conquer and replace government.

Which might apply to Afganistan, but not to Iraq.
tulc(see the difference?)

 

[tulc]

YOu cannot peacefully deal with Islam or Regimes like Saddams

...and yet we are an ally of Saudi Arabia? And the one country that was least Islamic was Iraq.
tulc(getting ready to do laundry)

 

[Carey]

Which might apply to Afganistan, but not to Iraq.
tulc(see the difference?)

 

[tulc]

Afganistan WAS involved in 9/11, Iraq was not. See the difference?
tulc(trying to be clear)

 

[Carey]

...and yet we are an ally of Saudi Arabia? And the one country that was least Islamic was Iraq.
tulc(getting ready to do laundry)

Yes sometimes you must temporarily ally with Nations you know are actually your enemy. This provides returns like inteligence , finance and like in the first Gulf war strageic placing of troops etc.


Do you really not realize these things or are you pulling my leg??

 

[Carey]

Afganistan WAS involved in 9/11, Iraq was not. See the difference?
tulc(trying to be clear)

Sorry I guess you missed my psot so I copied and pasted again for you.


Saddam , Iran , Syria and any other coun try or organization that supports terrorist and does not call hezzbullah and hamas terrorist groups had a part in 9-11
passive or not still a part.

Here are a few links for ya.

1. IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism - Council on Foreign Relations
   ... type > backgrounder > IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism. Text Size ... few weeks after Saddam's fall from power, though, convincing proof of an Iraq-al ...
   www.cfr.org/background/background_iraq_ties.php - 28k - Cached - More from this site
2. Saddam Hussein's Philanthropy of Terror - by Deroy Murdock
   ... Hussein have ties to terrorism? ... any or all of these ties between Iraq and terrorism or Iraq and ... more evidence of Saddam's terror ties," By Laurie ...
   www.husseinandterror.com - 128k - Cached - More from this site
3. Saddam's Terror Training Camps
   What the documents captured from the former Iraqi regime reveal--and why they ... close ties to al Qaeda, chief among them Algeria's GSPC and the Sudanese Islamic ...
   weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/550kmbzd.asp - 28k - Cached - More from this site
4. Deroy Murdock on Iraq on National Review Online
   ... those who dismiss Saddam Hussein's ties to terrorism and, thus, belittle a key ... discovered a cache of documents in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, that show Iraq ...
   www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200310210934.asp - 43k - Cached - More from this site
5. saddam's files
   ... but they are already turning up new facts about Saddam's links to terrorism. ... group run by Saddam's son Uday and entrusted with doing much of the ...
   www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005133 - 44k - Cached - More from this site
6. al qaeda
   ... al-Ani, is the liaison of Saddam's intelligence service to a radical Muslim ... the current debate over Iraq's ties to terrorism is reminiscent of a debate ...

 

[bliz]

War is always an ugly fact of life that yes even Christians must face.

What should christians think about this currnt news??

President Bush has possibly found a better way to protect Christians from Islam and pay for the war in Iraq.

So, Carey, when will you be shipping out?

 

[Carey]

So, Carey, when will you be shipping out?

Sadly I ma too old and not physically capable . They won't take me.

But my youngest son is going to carry on the many generational family tradition. I hope he chooses navy as all my family has but we will see.
I will be proud of him regardless of branch but i would like to see him go navy.

I pray as he does his duty serving our nation he will lead some to Christ and pray for those he may have to kill.

 

[bliz]

Sadly I ma too old and not physically capable . They won't take me.

Have you tried? They are taking people up to age 42 these days and lowering all standards. You might just qualify!

 

[Carey]

Have you tried? They are taking people up to age 42 these days and lowering all standards. You might just qualify!

Yes I tried years ago and they would not take me.

I am a fighter as my whole family is.

My kneee injury made me not a whole man.
i thought for years.

My oldest son followed in the family tradition and was about to enetr the UFC but has a heart condition and they recently put a pace maker in him.

The next in line who will be eligable is my other son.

The my brothers son.
Then My 2 great nephews.
We dont believe women should be in military so my neices are'nt an option.

 

[Gregged]

Have you tried? They are taking people up to age 42 these days and lowering all standards. You might just qualify!

It's true... I'm sure you should give it a go Carey - there has to be somewhere in the navy for you. I don't think they'd really turn anyone away right now... They are very stretched. Even possibly going to recruit foreigners who want citizenship. Even illegals can help themselves by signing up to Selective Service.

So you should have no problem if you really want it! I'm not sure about whether you'll be serving your country though. Serving the "powers that be" who don't care about you, but interested in their own profits. Next time you speak to George Jr, ask him when the twins are going to set an example and sign up too to go on the front line

 

[Carey]

It's true... I'm sure you should give it a go Carey - there has to be somewhere in the navy for you. I don't think they'd really turn anyone away right now... They are very stretched. Even possibly going to recruit foreigners who want citizenship. Even illegals can help themselves by signing up to Selective Service.

So you should have no problem if you really want it! I'm not sure about whether you'll be serving your country though. Serving the "powers that be" who don't care about you, but interested in their own profits. Next time you speak to George Jr, ask him when the twins are going to set an example and sign up too to go on the front line

you know they are rapidly Changing things in the military. Maybe in a few years they would take me .
I am a great marksman and even with my limited physical condition am still a excellent scrapper...LOL

I think of we really neede warriors though really bad we have plenty of crimninals in prison who could do a similar thing to the french foriegn legion.

 

[Gregged]

Yes I tried years ago and they would not take me.

I am a fighter as my whole family is.

My kneee injury made me not a whole man.i thought for years.

My oldest son followed in the family tradition and was about to enetr the UFC but has a heart condition and they recently put a pace maker in him.

The next in line who will be eligable is my other son.

The my brothers son.
Then My 2 great nephews.
We dont believe women should be in military so my neices are'nt an option.

Of course I don't know your family but I really really hope they want to go into the military. If they do, then that's great for them and is their decision of course. But if they feel they "have" to because of "family tradition" then that's quite sad.

Would you still be proud of your son if he didn't want to go into the navy, or not go into the military at all?

How do you become a "fighter"? Is it because you've been around it in your family all your life? Just interested, and not here to judge you on that.

 

[Gregged]

you know they are rapidly Changing things in the military.

Yes, they really are because things are so stretched. Makes me wonder how long the US can keep going for what with man power, but moreso dollars!

I hope that clearing the prison population to go and fight will not be an option taken just yet!

 

[Carey]

Of course I don't know your family but I really really hope they want to go into the military. If they do, then that's great for them and is their decision of course. But if they feel they "have" to because of "family tradition" then that's quite sad.

Would you still be proud of your son if he didn't want to go into the navy, or not go into the military at all?

How do you become a "fighter"? Is it because you've been around it in your family all your life? Just interested, and not here to judge you on that.

Yes that would be fine if my son did not enlist.

Yes it would be fine even if my son was a coward, though it makes me sick to my stomach to think about it.

We have become fighters from very far back I think it is maybe genetic but that would derail the thread.

But as far as fighter in context to my family in recent past. It is boxing and martial arts. No different than a "footballer" in Brittain or a horseman in mongolia.

My great uncle was heavyweight boxing champ of the navy

My cousin dads bro son was pro boxer and Golden glove prior.

They are the 2 biggest successes and obviously motivate the rest of the family to persue the sports.

Martial arts has been more recent as my cousin left boxing for martial arts and has been very successful and owned many Martial art training biz.

And his circle of friends have much influence in taht arena. Hence our family finds it a satisfying pass time.

 

[Carey]

Yes, they really are because things are so stretched. Makes me wonder how long the US can keep going for what with man power, but moreso dollars!

I hope that clearing the prison population to go and fight will not be an option taken just yet!

LOL

yes I think the man power will be easy to musteer with the millions annually of immigrants to my poor messed up country so many want to live in.

Also the illegals who are coming and do not want to be deported.

The $$$ will come from helpless nations who have not had enough sense to keep their military strong. we will save them like we did in WW 2

 

[Gregged]

Carey, your son not going into the forces doesn't make him a coward. Truly if you opened your eyes to the motives and reasons why so many soldiers are sent off to war, you would be happy!

I don't want to be horrible but don't know how to say this in a nicer way, but please don't take offence at this question : Would you be prouder of your son if he went into the navy and was killed as (you put it elsewhere) a "Christian martyr", "fighting for his country" than if he had done well pursuing a civilian position?

I don't know about genetics - I'm sure we could inherit certain genes of strength, speed etc but I think it is moreso the environment you are brought up in which has more of an influence. A son sees his Dad is a prize fighter - he wants to follow in that. It's not always the case, but can be a lot... Especially if there is such a family tradition and therefore more "pressure".

Still as you say, genetics etc is for another thread - as is martial arts

 

[Gregged]

yes I think the man power will be easy to musteer with the millions annually of immigrants to my poor messed up country so many want to live in.

Believe me Carey - not everyone wants to live there! I hear that all the time from patriots. Yes, many people do want to go there (and my country too), but it's not always the dream they had thought it would be. I won't share my views further on this, but I hear your type of comment all the time.

The $$$ will come from helpless nations who have not had enough sense to keep their military strong. we will save them like we did in WW 2

This is the sort of comment where I don't take you for real at all. That's why comments were made as to you "trolling". In my view, it's very very arrogant. One day you'll come back to earth with a great thump because you're so high up in cloudy dreamland at the moment that it's going to hurt you bad when it happens! Meanwhile, I'll just continue to laugh at those type of comments you make! Thanks for the comedy Carey - I guess you really do "Care"

 

[Carey]

Carey, your son not going into the forces doesn't make him a coward. Truly if you opened your eyes to the motives and reasons why so many soldiers are sent off to war, you would be happy!

I don't want to be horrible but don't know how to say this in a nicer way, but please don't take offence at this question : Would you be prouder of your son if he went into the navy and was killed as (you put it elsewhere) a "Christian martyr", "fighting for his country" than if he had done well pursuing a civilian position?

I don't know about genetics - I'm sure we could inherit certain genes of strength, speed etc but I think it is moreso the environment you are brought up in which has more of an influence. A son sees his Dad is a prize fighter - he wants to follow in that. It's not always the case, but can be a lot... Especially if there is such a family tradition and therefore more "pressure".

Still as you say, genetics etc is for another thread - as is martial arts

i see your heart is pure. thanks.

I would not consider my son a coward for not being military unless our country was actually stretched like the left wing propoganda of many countries try to make it seem.

But if he were afraid of pain or death i would consider him a coward.
I would love him but I would feel sad for him know ing he would not like himself.

He will be fine. He was put in martial arts at 3 years of age with his brither at 6.

He handles pain he knows his limitations his big bro is extremely advanced.

So he may not be infantry or special forces but he is very very smart,
So with modern warfare he fits.

But he does not have to be military.