Originally posted by Stormy
OK Seebs
So you think that an active pron star can rightfully claim to be a Christian?
Or for that matter a used car salesman who deliberately rips people off?
I think that anyone who sincerely believes in Christ and salvation can claim to be a Christian. I can't pick some sins and say "no, that's too bad, but a little white lie is okay".
IMO
You can not be a Christian and go on willfully and deliberately sinning without feeling regret and desire to change.
Sure. But who are we to judge whether someone feels enough regret? "I would rather not do this, it bothers me a lot" is regret.
I really do not think that you mean that sin is OK for a Christian. But then again I have never heard you say anything was wrong. That is except for people who try to teach that Christianity is not to be taken lightly. People like me who do not think that we are to spit in the face of the Lord.
This gets into a very large philosophical debate. I do not believe verbs that don't come with moral weighting on them (e.g., "murder" instead of "kill") can be called "right" or "wrong". I believe that sin is a question of your relationship with God and how something affects it. This appears to be an underlying difference in people; some people are raised to see *actions* as the basic unit of morality, other people see *intents* as the basic unit.
So, as an example: Giving money to a wino because you think it's funny to see him drink himself to death is sin. Giving money to the same guy because you hope he'll get some food and maybe get in out of the cold is not sin.
As to whether or not sin is "OK" for a Christian... Christians, like everyone else, *do* sin. The difference is, we're forgiven, and we are presumably trying to get out of it. However, I don't see any grounds for judging a Christian inappropriate content star that don't apply just as well to a Christian who is always smug and insulting, or a Christian who hates black people, or anything else. We all have sins, and most of us have sins that we are trapped in so deeply we haven't even understood them to be sins yet. Liberation from sin takes a long time, and really is only complete in Heaven.