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WRONG.... in the case of BOTH the answer is no.
"Confessing the name" is the question. If you believe it means you have to "say" the name word "Jesus" or "Yeshua" (or whatever you prefer) in order to be "saved" then that is one thing. But what about factoring in the Hebrew word for name and its meaning? Shem (name) deals more with the name bearer's character, reputation and authority then it does saying a word like Jesus or Yeshua. My point is, in that case, "confessing his name" would be confessing his authority, his Lordship, His divine character and not so much repeating one word. That still rules out the Muslim who doesn't recognize Yeshua as Lord, but doesn't make it so we have to say a magic word to be saved either. Because if our salvation hangs on saying a certain word, then those who can't speak at all can't get saved?Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?
Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.
Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?
Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.
Can't see how a Moslem can avoid acknowledging Christ, The Quran certainly advocates that it is he (Isa=Jesus) that God our Father has appointed to judge the living and the dead in the last days.
A different question: Is belief in the pre-existence of Jesus, his homoousian sonship, hypostatic union, death & resurrection an implicit requirement of salvation? On the basis of A.Paul's testimony I'd have to say yes to the last two & no to the first three!
Many world religions have contrite repentance as a pillar of their faith.
However, in Christianity the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ is central.
What is the substitutionary atonement?
I can agree with everything you wrote and still say God can look at the heart of someone we would dismiss as dammed by default and say actually I know a way to make the sacrifice of my Son work to save that guy.
Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?
Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.
Despite the fact my mother raised me as a JW, to my own satisfaction I can explain both the homoousios & hypostasis and am convinced of their validity. My dad is RCC & had a Marist education. As I matured and asking him confronting questions, he answered me directly using scripture. Most "christians" are not aware that hypostasis, physis & ousia are terms used in scripture & are the terms core to Tinitarian theology.I wonder how many Christians could explain what it means to worship a Triune God or describe the nature of Christ - how he can be both man and God in the same person.
I live in an area that is increasingly becoming a Muslim majority (and property prices for a standard 1/4 acre have been continuously rising, now exceeding the $1million mark). Such a circumstance has reduced my prejudices. I've encountered professing Muslims who accept the death & resurrection of Christ and whose sect is persecuted in their home country. As far as I have experienced Islam is as fragmented as Christianity.....the biggest problem with Islam is that it has lies embedded in it regarding the redemption mechanism of death on the cross and resurrection.
Simply because they find Jesus' death as appeasement of a wrathful god disingenuous. Much the same way as genuine Christians reject Calvin's fantasy of predestination.Neither [the death of Christ or his resurrection] happened in the Quran.
Have you read the Quran or the Zabur? The later is the Arabic version of our book of Psalms. I am told they use it in their services.This is the demonic aspect of the religion that it puts up a wall which prevents Muslims being saved unless they renounce the book and prophet that have deceived them.
And yet, like the prophet Daniel (12:2) and most Pharisees, most Muslims believe in the resurrection to come...Most Muslims will say therefore that Jesus never died on a cross and therefore never needed to be raised.
Do you limit God's power?But if they are still despite reaching out to God for His mercy in repentance but ignorant of how he might do that can God still save them because of what Jesus did and even despite their verbal denial of that redemptive mechanism.
God's creation is part of his revelation of himself.Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?
Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.
Hello mindlight.Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?
Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.
Why are you shouting "Wrong" at me? I said "no" to the one group and didn't give a reply to the other. Mainly, I was asking for a clarification of the OP's question.
It is one thing to have an intellectual understanding of a religion and another to come to a personal understanding of how God is known and who exactly he is. I wonder how many Muslims have had an encounter with Christ in such a way that a real choice was possible.
Moses and Abraham be saved like we are...they saved by the grace of God throughHow were Abraham or Moses saved?
The answer, I believe, is yes with an asterisk.
There is no salvation outside or without Christ. But whether or not anyone is saved outside of the Christian Church is, fundamentally, not something which we can say dogmatically; but we side on the position of hope as we do when we confess that the ancient patriarchs and prophets were saved even without knowing or being able to confess Jesus Christ; or when we in hope say that miscarried infants or unbaptized children are saved.
It is always Christ's work that alone is our salvation; Jesus alone is our salvation and "there is no other name by which anyone might be saved"; and the ordinary means of our salvation is the working of faith through the means of the preached Gospel and administered Sacraments by which we are made baptized, believing Christians and in this have the assurance of the Gospel which is found in Christ--but how or when or if God works through extraordinary means is not revealed to us--and thus we can only put ourselves on the side of hope, trusting in God: that He who is faithful, good, just, and merciful does, indeed, desire the salvation of all as we read, "Desiring none to perish" and "that all be saved" and "He is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe". We must therefore commit others to the mercy and judgment of God, hoping and trusting in Him alone.
No one is saved for trusting in the message of Muhammad. But can a Muslim be saved? God alone knows; and it is always and only Christ alone--no Muslim will be saved because he or she is a Muslim, but it may be that--outside of the ordinary means revealed to us--God will save him or her on Christ's account; whether that is true or not is known only to God. It is to us not to say what God can or cannot or will or will not do absolutely, but for us to say what God has revealed to us as the ordinary, revealed means of our salvation, that by the preaching of the Gospel we proclaim Christ and through this Word God works the miracle of faith, justifying the sinner for Christ's sake alone.
-CryptoLutheran
I'd read to him Isa's (Jesus') teaching at Mt 12:31-32 "...every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (NIV)So if we are conversing with a Muslim man on the street and present the Gospel to him, and he still says I can be forgiven of my sins without Christ Jesus, then what?
Do you think those Muslims have never heard of Christianity??Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?
Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.
It all depends on how you understand Gods mercy and grace.
If you believe that one must confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord then those who do not know his name won't be saved.
If you believe that God will judge them depending on the knowledge that they do have then they could be saved.
The OT saionts are a special case as they trusted in God for salvation but had no knowledge of Jesus. There are very few people today who can claim to have no knowledge of Jesus.
I am glad "It all depends on how you understand Gods mercy and grace" and not the divine act of redemption and the work of Christ.
Is it not great that it is my understanding that determines how divine mercy and grace works?
Now God can be just exactly what I want him to be! Now, everybody is saved - regardless.
Write what you mean rather than mean what you think you wrote, but did not.The ability of the 'good old mankind' to missunderstand, be confussed or just to take out of contexts, never ceases to amaze me.
So try and read what I did say, not what you wanted me to say.
If you reread what I said you'll notice I kept saying, 'if you believe' I talked about what the poster/read believed. Nowhere did I say what the reality is.Write what you mean rather than mean what you think you wrote, but did not.
You are right. I did not think you meant how I responded.
The reply was tongue in check to illustrate your mis-communique.
Many world religions have contrite repentance as a pillar of their faith.
However, in Christianity the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ is central.
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