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Emmy

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Dear mindlight. In Matthew 22: 35-40: Jesus tells us: The first Commandment is: Love God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. The second is like it: love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets. God is Love, and God wants loving sons and daughters. The Bible tells us: Give up your selfish wishes and wants, start loving God and love your neighbour. (neighbour is all we know and all we meet)
The Bible tells us love God and love each other, treat each other as you want to be treated. Jesus died that we might live, and Jesus will lead us back to God again. Matthew 7: 7-10: tells us: Ask and you shall receive, we ask God for Love and Joy, then thank God and start sharing all love and joy with our neighbour. God sees our love and joy for each other, and God will Bless us. Love is very catching, and it does not take long before we change and love and be kind to all our neighbours. Let us follow Jesus back to God and Love God and love our neighbour. I say this with love, mindlight. Greetings froem Emmy, your sister in Christ.
 
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In American evangelicalism only.

No Christian denies that Jesus death was vicarious, on behalf of the human race, but that isn't necessarily the same as the Calvinist doctrine of substitutionary atonement.
I'd say that substitution is pretty much universal. The real controversy is over penal substitution.
 
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