Anonymous Christianity

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?

Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.

No
Acts 4:12King James Version (KJV)
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Luke 9:26King James Version (KJV)
26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

 

[Blade]

As Jesus was looking He said..If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. He also said.. if you were blind you would have no sin. You say you see your sin remains. See it would be far better to be blind then to HEAR and KNOW Yeshua/JESUS is lord and we do nothing with this light we have. If we truly believed He is the only way..and if THEY being the world will be lost.. well we pray now and then.. surf the internet.. watch youtube.. others out there day and night..some with nothing.. crying praying for just one to come to Christ. So.. to have this LIGHT that we SAY is the ONLY WAY and then to only use it now and then.. would have been better to be blind..

The quran.. Allah is not the same God. Allahs names alone match our enemy.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?

How were Abraham or Moses saved?

The answer, I believe, is yes with an asterisk.

There is no salvation outside or without Christ. But whether or not anyone is saved outside of the Christian Church is, fundamentally, not something which we can say dogmatically; but we side on the position of hope as we do when we confess that the ancient patriarchs and prophets were saved even without knowing or being able to confess Jesus Christ; or when we in hope say that miscarried infants or unbaptized children are saved.

It is always Christ's work that alone is our salvation; Jesus alone is our salvation and "there is no other name by which anyone might be saved"; and the ordinary means of our salvation is the working of faith through the means of the preached Gospel and administered Sacraments by which we are made baptized, believing Christians and in this have the assurance of the Gospel which is found in Christ--but how or when or if God works through extraordinary means is not revealed to us--and thus we can only put ourselves on the side of hope, trusting in God: that He who is faithful, good, just, and merciful does, indeed, desire the salvation of all as we read, "Desiring none to perish" and "that all be saved" and "He is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe". We must therefore commit others to the mercy and judgment of God, hoping and trusting in Him alone.

No one is saved for trusting in the message of Muhammad. But can a Muslim be saved? God alone knows; and it is always and only Christ alone--no Muslim will be saved because he or she is a Muslim, but it may be that--outside of the ordinary means revealed to us--God will save him or her on Christ's account; whether that is true or not is known only to God. It is to us not to say what God can or cannot or will or will not do absolutely, but for us to say what God has revealed to us as the ordinary, revealed means of our salvation, that by the preaching of the Gospel we proclaim Christ and through this Word God works the miracle of faith, justifying the sinner for Christ's sake alone.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ChristianIssues]

Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?

Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.

Romans 2:12-15 tells us about those who have not heard the law or the gospel but act according to their conscience. It seems to me that they will be judged on their response to their God given conscience.

 

[dcalling]

Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?

Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.

I am not certain on this one, so help us God!

In Det 23:3, God commanded that Moabites should never be accepted , and yet Ruth, who is Moabite was not only accepted, but she was grandma of David! It shows that God will never reject anyone who truly seeks him.

And Jesus' name in Hebrew is Yeshua, so how the name is prounced is not important.

And the OT prophets who never heard of Jesus, yet they trusted in God and knows God are saved. If you know God you know Jesus, and you know what God want us to do, i.e. Love God and Love our neighbors as oursevles, and trust not in ourseves, but God.

So for Muslims who wants God, want to study God's word, reads Quran, they will likely want to read Gospel to get some questions answered, as of this guy

On this forum, I meet sever Muslim friends, who thought the Gospel is mostly corrupt. Seems this is the view held by most Muslims. But when I brought up the Quran verses that seems to indicate Quan assures Gospel is very much usuable (i.e.
Sura 5:50:

"And let the People of the Gospel judge by what God has revealed in it. If any fail to judge by what God has revealed, they are licentious."

Sura 5:71:
"Say, O People of the Book! You are not (founded) on anything UNTIL you PERFORM the TORAH and the GOSPEL, and what was revealed to you from your Lord."

And there is a verse that says if in doubt (Muhammad), go ask the people of the book)

When I showed this to my Muslims friends, they still reject the Gospel as corrupted...... In this case it is clear that their heart are hardened by God, just like when I was an atheist and there seems to be some really hard barrier to jump even after all other questions (such as Evolution) are out of the way.

 

[Anguspure]

Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?

Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.

From the Apostle:
But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” (Romans 10)

 

[mindlight]

For a Muslim, it is a sin to eat or drink during daylight hours during the month of Ramadan. They did not get these ideas from the Gospels, they got them from the Koran. If a Muslim converts to Christianity, he/she may not want to openly confess conversion to Christianity as this is described as apostasy by the Muslims. Islamic law calls for the execution of apostate Muslims. Saudi Arabia is living under shariah law. You do not find Saudi citizens going to church there. It is forbidden. They yet behead people for adultery in Saudi Arabia. Some citizens who converted to Christianity were deported. This article indicates 157 people were beheaded in Saudi Arabia in 2016: Saudi Arabia: beheadings reach highest level in two decades

The Wahabbi Jihaddism exported from Saudia Arabia is root of much of the current violence. This makes a mockery of their attempts to close down the export of terrorism from Qatar this morning.

We seek alliances with the Saudis cause they give money and therefore jobs. It is a clear example of putting Mammon over God.

 

[mindlight]

What exactly is it that Jesus, "stands for"?

For me Jesus stands for the triumph of mercy over judgment. He is the one who ignores the dignity gaps that we set between ourselves and others. He was born in lowly circumstances, spoke with Caananites and Samaritans , contemptuous of the false dignity of the religious leaders of his time who were blind to Him and His ways. He is the only way that we can truly know God because he is God with us, fully God and fully man in the same person. He brings unearnt grace and undeserved forgiveness to us. He is what the NT says about Him.

 

[mindlight]

Your asking a question only God can answer, but here's a little something.
Matthew chapter 25 verses 31-46
When the Son of Man comes" in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. he will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the King will say to those on his right, Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me. then the righteous will answer him, Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and got visit you? The King will reply, I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me. Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you? He will reply, I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me. Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

Yes this is useful. I was also struck by these verses from Matthew 21:

28 “What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’

29 “‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.

30 “Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go.

31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?”

“The first,” they answered.

Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.

 

[mindlight]

If you are right, and thank God you're not, no one would be saved. The heart of man is the source of his evil. Where do you imagine sin comes from?

For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. (Matt 15:19)

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? (Jer. 17:9)

This is precisely why we need a salvation that comes from outside of ourselves. Deep, deep, down inside we are more rotten than what sows on the surface.

You are right that the heart is full of all kinds of evils. But it is also the Pandoran box that contains the faith and hope in God that gets us saved. If you believe from your heart... Abraham was not a perfect man. He pretended that his wife was his sister cause he was afraid for instance. But he is commended for his faith also.

 

[mindlight]

I am not certain on this one, so help us God!

In Det 23:3, God commanded that Moabites should never be accepted , and yet Ruth, who is Moabite was not only accepted, but she was grandma of David! It shows that God will never reject anyone who truly seeks him.

And Jesus' name in Hebrew is Yeshua, so how the name is prounced is not important.

And the OT prophets who never heard of Jesus, yet they trusted in God and knows God are saved. If you know God you know Jesus, and you know what God want us to do, i.e. Love God and Love our neighbors as oursevles, and trust not in ourseves, but God.

So for Muslims who wants God, want to study God's word, reads Quran, they will likely want to read Gospel to get some questions answered, as of this guy

On this forum, I meet sever Muslim friends, who thought the Gospel is mostly corrupt. Seems this is the view held by most Muslims. But when I brought up the Quran verses that seems to indicate Quan assures Gospel is very much usuable (i.e.
Sura 5:50:

"And let the People of the Gospel judge by what God has revealed in it. If any fail to judge by what God has revealed, they are licentious."

Sura 5:71:
"Say, O People of the Book! You are not (founded) on anything UNTIL you PERFORM the TORAH and the GOSPEL, and what was revealed to you from your Lord."

And there is a verse that says if in doubt (Muhammad), go ask the people of the book)

When I showed this to my Muslims friends, they still reject the Gospel as corrupted...... In this case it is clear that their heart are hardened by God, just like when I was an atheist and there seems to be some really hard barrier to jump even after all other questions (such as Evolution) are out of the way.

For Christians today Muslims and atheists are the Samaritans and Caananites of our day. It is perfectly possible that many of these are dammed to hell for all eternity. But surely faith is about seeking for the diamond in the coal mine. It is about looking for what God is doing in others and hoping and praying that somehow and someway he can save those whom we assume cannot be saved but who have a heart for him in the worst of circumstances.

 

[mindlight]

From the Apostle:
But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” (Romans 10)

I can say from my heart that Jesus is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead. I know Him from scripture and acknowledge the truthes about Him which I read there. But I believe that God has a heart for people who have never read the New Testament, who reach out for Him from broken, deceived and obstructive circumstances. Who hear a phrase like Christian and think of bombers raining terror down on their heads or hear a phrase like Jesus is the Son of God and instantly also hear a billion Muslim voices and hundreds of years of Islamic conversation explaining why this cannot be true. To believe in such circumstances , against all odds may not mean perfectly following the formulas we seek to impose on the conversion conversations we have with Muslims. It must however follow the spirit of those formulas. A man must know he is a sinner, repent of his sins, know God is merciful, beg God for forgiveness trusting that He is able to deliver that. It is God who saves and we know how because we know Christ. For those who do not know Christ as He is must the confession of His name be a prerequisite to their salvation?

 

[Anguspure]

I can say from my heart that Jesus is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead. I know Him from scripture and acknowledge the truthes about Him which I read there. But I believe that God has a heart for people who have never read the New Testament, who reach out for Him from broken, deceived and obstructive circumstances. Who hear a phrase like Christian and think of bombers raining terror down on their heads or hear a phrase like Jesus is the Son of God and instantly also hear a billion Muslim voices and hundreds of years of Islamic conversation explaining why this cannot be true. To believe in such circumstances , against all odds may not mean perfectly following the formulas we seek to impose on the conversion conversations we have with Muslims. It must however follow the spirit of those formulas. A man must know he is a sinner, repent of his sins, know God is merciful, beg God for forgiveness trusting that He is able to deliver that. It is God who saves and we know how because we know Christ. For those who do not know Christ as He is must the confession of His name be a prerequisite to their salvation?

I don't want to be seen arguing with the Apostle but lets just say that I believe that you are correct if you are suggesting that the Word of God is not bound by the words written in a book. He is full of mercy and grace for anybody who needs it and calls on Him.

 

[mukk_in]

Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?

Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.

Sorry, my friend. But there's no other Name under heaven by which a man (or woman) shall be saved except the Name of the Lord Jesus. So let's focus our efforts on evangelizing and praying for the lost, starting with those in our families .

 

[Karl.C]

Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?

Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.

Can't see how a Moslem can avoid acknowledging Christ, The Quran certainly advocates that it is he (Isa=Jesus) that God our Father has appointed to judge the living and the dead in the last days.

A different question: Is belief in the pre-existence of Jesus, his homoousian sonship, hypostatic union, death & resurrection an implicit requirement of salvation? On the basis of A.Paul's testimony I'd have to say yes to the last two & no to the first three!

 

[JoeP222w]

Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?

No.

Luke 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.

Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.

Muslims, by definition, are not trusting in God, but rather a false idol. They reject the truth of Jesus Christ, so there is no salvation for them while they remain dead in their sins against the holy God.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Romans 2:12-15 tells us about those who have not heard the law or the gospel but act according to their conscience. It seems to me that they will be judged on their response to their God given conscience.

Yes. That is true, and that is what will condemn them.

 

[AlexDTX]

Can a non-Christian be saved without confessing the name of Christ?

Basically the OP is inspired by meeting various Muslims who are clearly aware of their sins and repentant of them , who are trusting in Gods mercy for their deliverance.

Act_4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

 

[marineimaging]

A person could be saved in Muslim country by consciously trusting and Christ and rejecting Islam, but having to do so in secret out of fear of punishment or death. This is different though than Anonymous Christian belief in Vatican II Catholicism, which I would reject.

There was no difference in Christ's days on earth between Judaism and Jesus' call to the Christian 2000 years ago than today as Islam as related. There is no other way to eternal heaven than confessing (publicly) that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Saviour. In the end times the Jew and the Gentile will be tested for their faith and the result of claiming Jesus as Lord will be to have their heads removed. How is that different than living in a Muslim country and professing Jesus as Lord and the only way and having one's head removed? Does the Word of God say that we are to fear he who can take our life or that we should fear more the one who can take our soul? In the end times the souls of the martyrs will cry out for justice from beneath the throne of Jesus and they will be clothed in pure white and see the result of God's wrath on those remaining. I would rather be a martyr under the throne of my Lord than to keep my head and see the wrath of God coming.

 

[HereIStand]

There was no difference in Christ's days on earth between Judaism and Jesus' call to the Christian 2000 years ago than today as Islam as related. There is no other way to eternal heaven than confessing (publicly) that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Saviour. In the end times the Jew and the Gentile will be tested for their faith and the result of claiming Jesus as Lord will be to have their heads removed. How is that different than living in a Muslim country and professing Jesus as Lord and the only way and having one's head removed? Does the Word of God say that we are to fear he who can take our life or that we should fear more the one who can take our soul? In the end times the souls of the martyrs will cry out for justice from beneath the throne of Jesus and they will be clothed in pure white and see the result of God's wrath on those remaining. I would rather be a martyr under the throne of my Lord than to keep my head and see the wrath of God coming.

A person should be strong enough in faith to confess it publicly even to death. Some Christian martyrs have been able to do that. Other Christians have wilted under the pressure of certain death. God won't condemn someone for that. Peter denied Christ thrice under pressure, but was forgiven.