Americans say country is on wrong track, but votes to stay on it

[NxNW]

Nobody is saying they want abortion to be as legal and accessible as possible? Nobody is saying they want drugs to be legalized? Nobody is saying it's okay to have LGBTQ material in school libraries? That it's okay for drag queens and transgenders teaching young kids all about it? Nobody is saying they want the government to pay for either their tuition or pay off their student loans?

That's considerably different from what you claimed earlier, but no, aside from the occasional outlier, nobody is saying all these things.

 

[ozso]

Legalization of narcotics is a very fringe position. Not sure why it is in your list.

Because I hear about it a lot from the left.

 

[ozso]

So, in other words, you aren't listening to Democrats, you are listening to Republican candidates straw man what "Democrats want." As pointed out above, your list is incorrect. Which, again, points out that your claim was a straw man, even if you weren't the originator, and you did it to bypass debate and make your position seem more reasonable.

No I wrote down exactly what I hear from democrats on social media like this forum. For the most part atheist, liberal, woke democrats.

 

[ozso]

That's considerably different from what you claimed earlier, but no, aside from the occasional outlier, nobody is saying all these things.

No it's not. You probably confused me with someone else.

 

[comana]

Because I hear about it a lot from the left.

Legalize or decriminalize? Legalizing weed is pretty mainstream now but what other drugs outside of the fringe groups?

 

[ozso]

Legalize or decriminalize? Legalizing weed is pretty mainstream now but what other drugs outside of the fringe groups?

Whichever. Lately I'm hearing a lot about "shrooms".

 

[NxNW]

Whichever. Lately I'm hearing a lot about "shrooms".

Well, they do grow in nature, so it's hard to illegalize things that grow naturally.

 

[Bradskii]

Legalization of narcotics is a very fringe position. Not sure why it is in your list.

It doesn't matter. It's just an easy subject to get people riled up. 'Do you want your kids to have access to dope? Do you want schoolkids smoking this gateway drug? Next it's cocaine and ectasy! They want your children to take this stuff so they can be easily manipulated! They want to destroy our families!'

Now, was that lifted from a speech by a Republican politician or a right wing pundit? I'm not going to say. But the fact that it's impossible to tell one way or the other tells us all we need to know.

 

[xser88]

I can't think of one policy Republicans supported in the last 40 years that helped the vast majority. There direction has been less benefits for the working class and more tax giveaways for corporations and the wealthy. The Democratic Party support policies the vast majority of Americans agree with, a progressive tax system, higher minimum wages, Social Security, universal health care, public education, and subsidized housing, infrastructure development and clean energy investments, gun backgrounds check, abortion rights, college tuition tax deductions, creating a 21st century immigration system.

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[Hans Blaster]

Whichever. Lately I'm hearing a lot about "shrooms".

Have you confused "shrooms" and cannabis with narcotics?

(Neither is a narcotic.)

 

[ozso]

Have you confused "shrooms" and cannabis with narcotics?

(Neither is a narcotic.)

Narcotic /närˈkädik/ noun
a drug or other substance that affects mood or behavior and is consumed for nonmedical purposes, especially one sold illegally.
"cultivation of a plant used to make a popular local narcotic".

Cannabis and hallucinogenic fungus are just the forerunners of legalized dope.

 

[ozso]

Well, they do grow in nature, so it's hard to illegalize things that grow naturally.

Heroin is an opioid drug made from morphine, a natural substance taken from the seed pod of the various opium poppy plants. Cocaine is produced from the leaves of the coca plant. Shall I continue?

 

[variant]

Narcotic /närˈkädik/ noun
a drug or other substance that affects mood or behavior and is consumed for nonmedical purposes, especially one sold illegally.
"cultivation of a plant used to make a popular local narcotic".

Cannabis and hallucinogenic fungus are just the forerunners of legalized dope.

Shrooms and Cannabis are relatively harmless drugs that conservatives have been criminalizing for generations.

It's one reason why we as a country imprison more of our population than any other country because we keep putting people in jail for drug crimes.

It's not our fault you support the ongoing police state, but most in the public aren't looking to legalize any hard drugs, they may however be looking to reform the war on the people who take them.

 

[ozso]

Shrooms and Cannabis are relatively harmless drugs that conservatives have been criminalizing for generations.

It's one reason why we as a country imprison more of our population than any other country because we keep putting people in jail for drug crimes.

It's not our fault you support the ongoing police state, but most in the public aren't looking to legalize any hard drugs, they may however be looking to reform the war on the people who take them.

I hear other reasons for legalizing drugs as well. Like it will put the cartels out of business. But really, folks just want to get stoned.

 

[ozso]

I hear other reasons for legalizing drugs as well. Like it will put the cartels out of business. But really, folks just want to get stoned. Get stoned, hook up, cause a pregnancy, get an abortion, repeat.

 

[Bradskii]

I think you need to ban beer first...

 

[driewerf]

We were talking the midterms and the policies that each candidate stood for. Neither Joe Rae Perkins or Ron Wyden mentioned it as far as I can see. Although I did note that Perkins said, regarding climate change, that if CO2 was reduced to zero then the trees would die. No, seriously, she actually said that.

Thankfully, Wyden won easily.

Which is actually correct.
And we would freeze.
Perkins meant possibly "If we reduced the CO2 emissions to zero".

 

[Bradskii]

Which is actually correct.
And we would freeze.
Perkins meant possibly "If we reduced the CO2 emissions to zero".

You are correct. That's what she said. Unfortunately for her. Because the way I quoted her meant that she was right. Notwithstanding that we could not actually reduce CO2 to zero. But her actual quote, which is likewise impossible, shows her ignorance of terms such as net zero. Which is what we're aiming for.

Either way, our trees are safe.

 

[KCfromNC]

Usually when someone understands what I'm saying and comments on it, my thought is something like "bingo, you got it". In this case I barely understand what you're saying.

I get it - try to imply there's something wrong with me for pointing out the obvious. It's a common ploy when that obvious bit is hard to ignore otherwise ... change the subject to an imagined failing in the poster when there's nothing to say about the actual post.

 

[ozso]

I get it - try to imply there's something wrong with me for pointing out the obvious. It's a common ploy when that obvious bit is hard to ignore otherwise ... change the subject to an imagined failing in the poster when there's nothing to say about the actual post.

You seem to be of the mindset that I'm into all kinds of schemes and ploys et al, and of course that's going to shape how you interpret my posts. Just about every one of your replies to me in this thread is an accusation that I'm doing this that and the other. Pure nonsense. We're done here.