Does anyone else find the article a little...fishy? WorldNet isnt the most credible media outlet, is there any other articles in other places that would support this article?
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Well, it is a very strong emotion. IMO many christians who proclaim to be the "good christians" and attack the "others" are doing a massive injustice to Christ and Christianity. I don't really ahve a desire to discuss this, since these debates usually go nowhere, but maybe this time will be differentZaac said:Gosh. Vehemently is such a strong word.I would be happy to discuss this via PM with you if you so desire.
Alecto said:Does anyone else find the article a little...fishy? WorldNet isnt the most credible media outlet, is there any other articles in other places that would support this article?
Boo hoo. Go cry.Robert43 said:On own time, man posted anti-'gay' article insurance giant says didn't reflect its values.
A former manager with Allstate has sued the insurance giant, alleging the company, which financially supports homosexual advocacy groups, fired him solely because he wrote a column posted on several websites that was critical of same-sex marriage and espoused his Christian beliefs.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44961
ChristianCenturion said:I don't know for sure, but I will reflect my own opinion in that there have been several teacher/student scandals in the papers and those were not even physical education teachers (I believe). It only makes accountability and prevention sense to have the least likely orientation in charge of other peoples' children.
SnowBear said:And if the written article were anti-black would people be trying to support and justify this mans prejudice?
Hate is hate and pretending that somehow writing these things about gays and lesbians is good but writing them about blacks just shows the depts. Some will go to justify hatred and prejudice.
While I am all for the free marketplace of ideas, I don't think it is a violation of the man's civil rights. No one has the right to be employed by anyone and in most states companies are free to fire an employee for pretty much any reason, other than sex, religion, race, age, and (sometimes) sexual orientation. Don't like your employee's hair style? You can fire them. Looking at it from the perspective of the employer, shouldn't they be able to choose who they wish to associate with?Electric Sceptic said:Allstate's actions in this case were unconscionable, and they should be penalised for firing the man. It's a violation of his basic civil rights.
MidnightBlue said:Yes, by all means. You want to make sure your kids have a nice heterosexual teacher like Mary Kay LeTourneau.
drlao23 said:While I am all for the free marketplace of ideas, I don't think it is a violation of the man's civil rights. No one has the right to be employed by anyone and in most states companies are free to fire an employee for pretty much any reason, other than sex, religion, race, age, and (sometimes) sexual orientation. Don't like your employee's hair style? You can fire them. Looking at it from the perspective of the employer, shouldn't they be able to choose who they wish to associate with?
ChristianCenturion said:I take it that you disagree that his out of office activities had anything to do with the emboldened section?
thirstforknowledge said:Just to point out, that only qualifies for firing for being a certain religion. If my religion is potsmokersyum, I cannot be fired because of my religion. If part of my potsmokersyum duties is to smoke marijuana 420 times a day, including while sitting at my work desk, I can be fired because of this practice.
ChristianCenturion said:You'll have to do better, not all religious 'practices' are protected under that civil right, but I doubt that essay writing is among those that are not protected.
thirstforknowledge said:The point remains the same.
You also can't get out of scheduled work days due to religious worship of holy days. That's another thing not protected. I do not agree with it, but I do believe that is the way the law works.
MidnightBlue said:Do you think that lesbians and gay men don't have families, or homes, or health care issues? No, most of the time they don't lose their benefits -- unless they work for Exxon. Most of the time they don't get the benefits in the first place. However, because they have none of the legal protections that married couples have, they do often lose their homes or their ability to care for their families. They may even be denied the right to visit their children because they're homosexual.
People who are happy with that situation, and who crusade to keep it that way, have no right to come whining when they're treated in a similar fashion.
They want to enforce their religious views on the population at large? They want to penalize people who don't obey their religious rules? Then they shouldn't complain at being penalized by somebody else's arbitrary rules.
If they want freedom only for themselves, they get no sympathy from me.
Hate is everyones issueChristianCenturion said:Psst. Black persons aren't your slaves, why don't you try carrying your own issues for a change.
http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=16505796&postcount=131
SnowBear said:Hate is everyones issue
Robert43 said:On own time, man posted anti-'gay' article insurance giant says didn't reflect its values.
A former manager with Allstate has sued the insurance giant, alleging the company, which financially supports homosexual advocacy groups, fired him solely because he wrote a column posted on several websites that was critical of same-sex marriage and espoused his Christian beliefs.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44961
Robert43 said:On own time, man posted anti-'gay' article insurance giant says didn't reflect its values.
A former manager with Allstate has sued the insurance giant, alleging the company, which financially supports homosexual advocacy groups, fired him solely because he wrote a column posted on several websites that was critical of same-sex marriage and espoused his Christian beliefs.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44961
SatKat said:I didnt have time to read the article but...
Being a manager of a company, you'd think that he'd support most of the same values as the company. Obviously that company wasn't right for him, neither he for the company. I don't think they should have fired him though, everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. As long as he didn't critisize allstate for supporting gays. If he did than yeah, i could understand firing him.