Adam ?

[Colter]

We were? I thought we were talking about how to be as HE has called us to be in THIS life...In Him, Through Him and By Him.

No, I was talking about the next life.

 

[RECVRNGSNR]

God made Adam''s DNA perfectly. The DNA didn't fail Adam. God also gave Adam the knowledge of good and evil. Adam choose evil and suffered the consequences. Every child is perfect until they gain knowledge of good and evil and choose to practice evil.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

We were talking about the next life in heaven where we will continue in spiritual growth.

And I answered. If it cannot be backed in scripture it cannot be true. You answered telling there wasn't much on the matter in scripture. We'll leave it there.

Scripture...test all things...

 

[toLiJC]

Did God make Adam imperfect?

hardly, otherwise God would be guilty of sin and death

Blessings

 

[miknik5]

The Old Testament thinkers were unable to think outside of their scripture box. A Jewish family wherin one member became a follower of Jesus would become divided by the sword of truth.

Old Testament "thinkers" were waiting for THE PROMISE

1 Peter 1 should clarify to you what the prophets pointed to but could not fully comprehend

The Old Testament "thinkers" know now what they did not fully know then

(That is, those who are now present with THE LORD)

 

[Colter]

And I answered. If it cannot be backed in scripture it cannot be true. You answered telling there wasn't much on the matter in scripture. We'll leave it there.

Scripture...test all things...

Before Moses wrote the first scripture, there was plenty that was true that wasn't in the scripture. Before the Gospels were written, there was plenty more that was true that wasn't in the scripture. 50 years after Jesus left, more truth was given to John in a vision on Patmos. In 1955 the 5th epochal revelation was given in America. For the open minded and the willing there will always be work to be done and more growth in spirit. That's just common sense.

 

[Colter]

Old Testament "thinkers" were waiting for THE PROMISE

1 Peter 1 should clarify to you what the prophets pointed to but could not fully comprehend

The Old Testament "thinkers" know now what they did not fully know then

(That is, those who are now present with THE LORD)

The Gentile and Pagan world adopted a variation of the Gospel message. The Jews outright reject it! Part of the reason for that is they took their biased human scriptures too seriously, developing erroneous expectations of a Jewish Messiah that would come and take up David's exaggerated, corrupt thrown and rule as King of the Jews.

 

[miknik5]

Before Moses wrote the first scripture, there was plenty that was true that wasn't in the scripture. Before the Gospels were written, there was plenty more that was true that wasn't in the scripture. 50 years after Jesus left, more truth was given to John in a vision on Patmos. In 1955 the 5th epochal revelation was given in America. For the open minded and the willing there will always be work to be done and more growth in spirit. That's just common sense.

Do you agree with revelation 22's directive not to add to or take away from GOD's WORD?

 

[miknik5]

The Gentile and Pagan world adopted a variation of the Gospel message. The Jews outright reject it! Part of the reason for that is they took their biased human scriptures too seriously, developing erroneous expectations of a Jewish Messiah that would come and take up David's exaggerated, corrupt thrown and rule as King of the Jews.

Tell me, when THE SPIRIT of CHRIST was in the prophets testifying to the MESSIAH, and the sufferings and the glory which would come, what was this "other gospel message"

THE PROMISE was not recognized until CHRIST was crucified, resurrected, and ascended

That and only after that was THE PROMISE recognized

 

[miknik5]

The Gentile and Pagan world adopted a variation of the Gospel message. The Jews outright reject it! Part of the reason for that is they took their biased human scriptures too seriously, developing erroneous expectations of a Jewish Messiah that would come and take up David's exaggerated, corrupt thrown and rule as King of the Jews.

Please don't identify Davids throne with your own fleshly insight

You don't know why to GOD David was seen as a model of CHRIST

And what you are identifying is the subjects and not the king

 

[Radrook]

Seems sometimes as if the only goal which some responders have when talking about Adam is to prove that the was a monkey.

 

[Colter]

Do you agree with revelation 22's directive not to add to or take away from GOD's WORD?

No! The Book of Revelation was the last and most controversial book added to the cannon. Some church leaders accepted Johns Apocalypse while others did not. Cyril of Jerusalem (348 AD) does not name it among the canonical books but Athanasius (367 AD) listed the Book of Revelation as a Canonical book.

Deuteronomy 4 2 said: 1“Now, O Israel, listen to the statutes and the judgments which I am teaching you to perform, so that you may live and go in and take possession of the land which the LORD, the God of your fathers, is giving you. 2“You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Much more was added and much more will be added. Christ isn't finished.

 

[miknik5]

Seems sometimes as if the only goal which some responders have when talking about Adam is to prove that the was a monkey.

If Adam had been a monkey he would have been more perfect because he would have done what monkeys were originally designed to do

But Adam wasn't a monkey...he was created in GOD's image

And not one perfectly modeled/mirrored the exact image of THE FATHER

Except for THE ONE who came forth from GOD to "show us THE FATHER"

HE alone is the visible image of GOD
The exact representation of HIS BEING
The full radiance of HIS GLORY

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Before Moses wrote the first scripture, there was plenty that was true that wasn't in the scripture. Before the Gospels were written, there was plenty more that was true that wasn't in the scripture. 50 years after Jesus left, more truth was given to John in a vision on Patmos. In 1955 the 5th epochal revelation was given in America. For the open minded and the willing there will always be work to be done and more growth in spirit. That's just common sense.

I believe every word and account in The Bible. It is the only book I read and look to for the things of God. HE has proven it to be true in my Life, by the grace of God.

The Old Testament was all the Apostles had and it pointed to Christ. By the spirit, God revealed it to them. Jesus was sent for the reconciliation of mankind back to all God had given the 1st Adam (before the fall)...if they BELIEVE. HE wants us to walk in the Day (light), not Night (darkness) and to see only that Light. John 1:1-5

John 7:37-38

2 Timothy 3:16

Romans 15:4

Isaiah 55:11

Isaiah 55:8-11

Matthew 24:35

Joshua 1:8

Jeremiah 15:16

Psalm 19:7-11

John 16:13

Psalm 119:105

And from Jesus' prayer, John 17:17

2 Peter 1:21

Matthew 5:18

Psalm 12:6

Isaiah 40:8

 

[Colter]

Tell me, when THE SPIRIT of CHRIST was in the prophets testifying to the MESSIAH, and the sufferings and the glory which would come, what was this "other gospel message"

THE PROMISE was not recognized until CHRIST was crucified, resurrected, and ascended

That and only after that was THE PROMISE recognized

Jesus has been forced into many OT writings by converted Jews who were trying to justify their faith in him and their conversion to his movement. Between Gods very real agreement with Abraham and the arrival of Jesus, a great deal of human speculation and cultural egotism influenced the editing and writing of the OT books.

 

[miknik5]

No! The Book of Revelation was the last and most controversial book added to the cannon. Some church leaders accepted Johns Apocalypse while others did not. Cyril of Jerusalem (348 AD) does not name it among the canonical books but Athanasius (367 AD) listed the Book of Revelation as a Canonical book.

Deuteronomy 4 2 said: 1“Now, O Israel, listen to the statutes and the judgments which I am teaching you to perform, so that you may live and go in and take possession of the land which the LORD, the God of your fathers, is giving you. 2“You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Much more was added and much more will be added. Christ isn't finished.

Colter, please forgive me, but I am not interested in discussing with you "yeast" which has been added to HIS WORD

HE told us to beware of "yeast"
And it appears you have added "yeast" where it does not belong

In this you pollute THE PURE UNADULTERATED BREAD of THE WORD of GOD

CHRIST is sufficient
All man made material added to THE FOUNDATION, will be removed
1 Corinthians 3

 

[Colter]

Tell me, when THE SPIRIT of CHRIST was in the prophets testifying to the MESSIAH, and the sufferings and the glory which would come, what was this "other gospel message"

THE PROMISE was not recognized until CHRIST was crucified, resurrected, and ascended

That and only after that was THE PROMISE recognized

Jesus has been forced into many OT writings by converted Jews who were trying to justify their faith in him and their conversion to his movement. Between Gods very real agreement with Abraham and the arrival of Jesus, a great deal of human speculation and cultural egotism influenced the editing and writing of the OT books.

Please don't identify Davids throne with your own fleshly insight

You don't know why to GOD David was seen as a model of CHRIST

And what you are identifying is the subjects and not the king

David's greatness was an afterthought on the part of the priestly editors.

 

[miknik5]

Jesus has been forced into many OT writings by converted Jews who were trying to justify their faith in him and their conversion to his movement. Between Gods very real agreement with Abraham and the arrival of Jesus, a great deal of human speculation and cultural egotism influenced the editing and writing of the OT books.

Isaiah 8 remains sufficient

The TESTIMONY of JESUS is THE SPIRIT of PRIOHECY

Every WORD spoken in lower and visible signs and representations pointed us to the higher hidden SPIRITUAL TRUTHS which are all found in CHRIST
Every PRIEST
Every PROPHET
Every JUDGE
Every KING

Spoke of and pointed us to CHRIST

 

[miknik5]

Jesus has been forced into many OT writings by converted Jews who were trying to justify their faith in him and their conversion to his movement. Between Gods very real agreement with Abraham and the arrival of Jesus, a great deal of human speculation and cultural egotism influenced the editing and writing of the OT books.

David's greatness was an afterthought on the part of the priestly editors.

And you listened to men telling you these things

 

[Colter]

Colter, please forgive me, but I am not interested in discussing with you "yeast" which has been added to HIS WORD

HE told us to beware of "yeast"
And it appears you have added "yeast" where it died big belong

In this you pollute THE PURE UNADULTERATED BREAD of THE WORD of GOD

CHRIST is sufficient
All man made material added to THE FOUNDATION, will be removed
1 Corinthians 3

People put God in a doctrine box so they can get control of it rather than surrender self to the guidance of God. There is the religion of Jesus which is endless growth and the religion about Jesus which one simply believes a doctrine.

One of the reasons people make the Bible into a God is because they are spiritually lazy. Its hiding the talents under a rock.