Adam ?

[Radrook]

Well, let's see what the Bible has to say about this:

Ecclesiastes 7:29 ►
New International Version
This only have I found: God created mankind upright, but they have gone in search of many schemes."

 

[Aseyesee]

Well, let's see what the Bible has to say about this:

What does upright mean ... to an evolutionist it would mean, not on all fours

 

[Halbhh]

Did God make Adam imperfect?

I'd use the word "perfect" for the beingness of Adam.

Of course, He gave Adam and Eve freedom also.....

 

[Radrook]

What does upright mean ... to an evolutionist it would mean, not on all fours

Perhaps you should try using a dictionary and choose the meaning appropriate to the context in which the word is found.

 

[Aseyesee]

I'd use the word "perfect" for the beingness of Adam.

Of course, He gave Adam and Eve freedom also.....

I like the sound of that ... "I am" aye!

 

[miknik5]

Everybody receives the same penny ...

Only those who were called who cast the good seed

If you think we can cast the wrong seed and not be held accountable, you are wrong

 

[Aseyesee]

You really can't clarify the issue until you have narrowed down the meaning God implies by it. But perhaps it takes all the individual views to see it as he sees it, one not being complete without the other.

 

[Halbhh]

Adam and Eve --

They broke trust (did not continue to trust) the Lord, when they believed the serpent's assertion over the Lord.

But, if you look at the wording the serpent used....it looks just like how our minds work quite often:

"Did the Lord say I couldn't have *anything* good?"...(ha ha)

Most everyone has a thought or 10 (or more) very similar to that, in youth, something like: "I know I'm not supposed to condemn other human beings, *but*....I could condemn just this one bad guy, right?"

It's the same pattern, over and over, for any particular sin, until we get to a point where we truly repent from the heart, and essentially are asking God to change us for the better.

 

[miknik5]

You do understand what I meant didn't you?

You do know God knew where Adam was don't you?

Actually it is one's own soul where the blame lies, as you already referenced with Cain, which even Jesus had to be tempted to eat what his soul would give him just as the first Adam did.

In (picture) scripture this was the earthly jerusalem, whose seed/image was of a serpent.

There was peace in paradise before the woman showed up, or what an old man (which is relative) said as I watched over the predicament he was in, "No thought, no problem."

Do you understand what you mean?

(It is not good for the man to be alone)

Are you alone?

Just like David understood - his actions effected all

And just like Cain didnt understand - yes we are our brother's keeper


What did you think the servant was sent out to do in HIS VINEYARD?

Hoard the "seed of LIFE?"

 

[Aseyesee]

Only those who were called who cast the good seed

If you think we can cast the wrong seed and not be held accountable, you are wrong

I'm not concerned with that in the slightest bit, this was settled before the world was, are now my thoughts going change what was written in a book before there ever was a need for one?

 

[miknik5]

Woe to the shepherd who deserts the flock

If you see your brother sin should you tell him it?

Is it every man to his "own house"?

Don't you think GOD sees already those whose agenda is to serve self?

 

[Aseyesee]

Perhaps you should try using a dictionary and choose the meaning appropriate to the context in which the word is found.

that does help ...

 

[miknik5]

I'm not concerned with that in the slightest bit, this was settled before the world was, are now my thoughts going change what was written in a book before there ever was a need for one?

Then you can tell HIM you weren't concerned to do what HE commanded

"Go"


Please review the "lazy servant"

 

[Colter]

The crafty beast suggested to Eve that if she were to mate with Cain's real Father whom she found "pleasing to the eye" that her superior DNA would greatly improve the human race much faster than their earlier efforts.

 

[miknik5]

Dup post

 

[Radrook]

that does help ...

True! It makes a world of a difference by preventing an understanding completely contrary to what is intended.

 

[miknik5]

The crafty beast suggested to Eve that if she were to mate with Cain's real Father whom she found "pleasing to the eye" that her superior DNA would greatly improve the human race much faster than their earlier efforts.

Nope that's not the truth and that's not what GOD said by HIS WORD

That might have been what was suggested by men who wrote the book of urantia but that is not at all mentioned in THE WORD

In other words:
GOD did not really say

 

[Aseyesee]

Then you can tell HIM you weren't concerned to do what HE commanded

"Go"


Please review the "lazy servant"

Then you can tell HIM you weren't concerned to do what HE commanded

"Go"


Please review the "lazy servant"

I did this thread for discussion, not debate, but if it turns into debate don't let it come down to accusations, one devil should be enough for all of us.

 

[Aseyesee]

True! It makes a world of a difference by preventing an understanding completely contrary to what is intended.

Funny things words ...

 

[miknik5]

I did this thread for discussion, not debate, but if it turns into debate don't let it come down to accusations, one devil should be enough for all of us.

As you see it
Thankfully HE alone will judge the hidden intents of the heart