Adam ?

[Radrook]

If Adam had been a monkey he would have been more perfect because he would have done what monkeys were originally designed to do

But Adam wasn't a monkey...he was created in GOD's image

And not one perfectly modeled/mirrored the exact image of THE FATHER

Except for THE ONE who came forth from GOD to "show us THE FATHER"

HE alone is the visible image of GOD
The exact representation of HIS BEING
The full radiance of HIS GLORY

I never claimed that monkeys were not designed to do what monkeys are supposed to do-to be monkeys. Obviously tigers were designed to be tigers, horses to be horses, birds to be birds and reptiles to be reptiles.

Genesis 1: 24Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind"; and it was so. 25God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 26Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth,

 

[Colter]

And you listened to men telling you these things

Church men wrote the Bible and exalted themselves to "Gods chosen people".

 

[Colter]

Isaiah 8 remains sufficient

The TESTIMONY of JESUS is THE SPIRIT of PRIOHECY

Every WORD spoken in lower and visible signs and representations pointed us to the higher hidden SPIRITUAL TRUTHS which are all found in CHRIST
Every PRIEST
Every PROPHET
Every JUDGE
Every KING

Spoke of and pointed us to CHRIST

You have a vivid imagination. The people who wrote the Old Testament don't believe in Jesus, they will use there scripture books to tell you why.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Before Moses wrote the first scripture, there was plenty that was true that wasn't in the scripture. Before the Gospels were written, there was plenty more that was true that wasn't in the scripture. 50 years after Jesus left, more truth was given to John in a vision on Patmos. In 1955 the 5th epochal revelation was given in America. For the open minded and the willing there will always be work to be done and more growth in spirit.
That's just common sense.

We are not to rely on 'common sense' as God is anything but common.

Proverbs 3:5 ...and lean not unto thine own understanding. That is what led Adam and Eve astray and locked them out of midst of the goodness and beauty of The Garden. HE is calling us back to that DAY/light the first Adam once had full dominion over.

And John 6:It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

We either walk in the flesh or by The Spirit. One brings sin=death and the other LIFE eternal.

 

[miknik5]

People put God in a doctrine box so they can get control of it rather than surrender self to the guidance of God. There is the religion of Jesus which is endless growth and the religion about Jesus which one simply believes a doctrine.

One of the reasons people make the Bible into a God is because they are spiritually lazy. Its hiding the talents under a rock.

You have no idea how telling your words are

 

[miknik5]

You have a vivid imagination. The people who wrote the Old Testament don't believe in Jesus, they will use there scripture books to tell you why.

They'll stand in the judgement and testify

 

[miknik5]

I never claimed that monkeys were not designed to do what monkeys are supposed to do-to be monkeys. Obviously tigers were designed to be tigers, horses to be horses, birds to be birds and reptiles to be reptiles.

Thank you
Yes. That is exactly what I meant

Bearing fruit with seed in it after its likeness

All except man

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

People put God in a doctrine box so they can get control of it rather than surrender self to the guidance of God. There is the religion of Jesus which is endless growth and the religion about Jesus which one simply believes a doctrine.

One of the reasons people make the Bible into a God is because they are spiritually lazy. Its hiding the talents under a rock.

Luke 6:44-46
44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

 

[miknik5]

Church men wrote the Bible and exalted themselves to "Gods chosen people".

They did no such thing
Men born of and led by GOD's SPIRIT listened to and obeyed what GOD called them to do

 

[miknik5]

It's hiding the talents under a rock

Who gave you your talents?

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Jesus has been forced into many OT writings by converted Jews who were trying to justify their faith in him and their conversion to his movement. Between Gods very real agreement with Abraham and the arrival of Jesus, a great deal of human speculation and cultural egotism influenced the editing and writing of the OT books.

If we stick strictly to the Bible and not listen to the doctrines of man amazing things can happen. That makes us truly SEEKERS of His Truth. HE promises to teach us, not by the letter of The Law, but the spirit of the law written upon our hearts...2 Corinthians 3:5-6

 

[miknik5]

No good will come of this conversation with you colter

I do not agree with you
You should not add to the word of GOD
I will not discuss with you anything "outside the doctrine box" because it would be meaningless to do so

It is the yeasty input of men

 

[Aseyesee]

Tell me, when THE SPIRIT of CHRIST was in the prophets testifying to the MESSIAH, and the sufferings and the glory which would come, what was this "other gospel message"

THE PROMISE was not recognized until CHRIST was crucified, resurrected, and ascended

That and only after that was THE PROMISE recognized

Jesus said otherwise.

 

[miknik5]

Jesus said otherwise.

No HE didn't

You say otherwise

John 13 through John 17 is jesus' dialogue to HIS disciples (those yesterday, those today and those tomorrow) about THE PROMISE of THE FATHER

 

[Colter]

No good will come of this conversation with you colter

I do not agree with you
You should not add to the word of GOD
I will not discuss with you anything "outside the doctrine box" because it would be meaningless to do so

It is the yeasty input of men

I'm free and unindoctrinated in Christ.

 

[miknik5]

I'm free and unindoctrinated in Christ.

Then are you free to progress above the doctrine of Christ

Please review 2 John 1

 

[Colter]

If we stick strictly to the Bible and not listen to the doctrines of man amazing things can happen. That makes us truly SEEKERS of His Truth. HE promises to teach us, not by the letter of The Law, but the spirit of the law written upon our hearts...2 Corinthians 3:5-6

The Bible was written by the kind of men who rejected Christ. They compiled truth and untruth. I trust Gods Living truth.


29“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

 

[Colter]

Then are you free to progress above the doctrine of Christ

Please review 2 John 1

I like 2 John 1, he was one of the better theologians.

 

[miknik5]

The Bible was written by the kind of men who rejected Christ. They compiled truth and untruth. I trust Gods Living truth.


29“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

Finish it up

HE said therefore I send you prophets so that upon you (the unbelieving who kill and stknevthise sent to them...including the prophets of old) shall come the blood (guilt) of all the prophets

From Abel to Zechariah

CHRIST will avenge the deaths of all those who spoke of HIM

 

[Colter]

If we stick strictly to the Bible and not listen to the doctrines of man amazing things can happen. That makes us truly SEEKERS of His Truth. HE promises to teach us, not by the letter of The Law, but the spirit of the law written upon our hearts...2 Corinthians 3:5-6

I stick with the spirit of truth.