Adam ?

[Colter]

Nope that's not the truth and that's not what GOD said by HIS WORD

That might have been what was suggested by men who wrote the book of urantia but that is not at all mentioned in THE WORD

In other words:
GOD did not really say

The creators of the Adam story didn't know any better but they did leave clues in the story. God doesn't write books.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

You keep dodging the question and giving sermons in answer to some other question. So, I assume that you are bluffing and don't have an answer.

I have read the Bible and know what it says and doesn't say.

By the grace of God, I know The Way by the Light of His Word and that His promises are true...by His spirit.

Philippians 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

1 Thess. 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Proverbs 3:
5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

 

[miknik5]

Isaiah 8 remains sufficient

 

[Colter]

By the grace of God, I know The Way by the Light of His Word and that His promises are true...by His spirit.

Philippians 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

1 Thess. 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Proverbs 3:
5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Yes, but we were talking about something else.

 

[Halbhh]

4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love
5 he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will...

Makes you think, doesn't it?

 

[Aseyesee]

4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love
5 he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will...

Makes you think, doesn't it?

Makes me trust

 

[miknik5]

4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love
5 he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will...

Makes you think, doesn't it?

It still does not tell us who has or who hasn't been chosen in HIM

 

[miknik5]

Which is why Romans 10 stands and why the gospel is preached

 

[Aseyesee]

It still does not tell us who has or who hasn't been chosen in HIM

Only the one who receives the white stone knows the name in it, which is a very exclusive truth.

 

[Halbhh]

It still does not tell us who has or who hasn't been chosen in HIM

The parable of the prodigal son. You can read it as about a sheep that strays, as indeed it very much is, and He told several stories about a precious lost being found, reclaimed. It's one of our deep hopes.

Perhaps every person is born initially His, already, and then many are lost, and many will be found again. They must call to Him, or turn to Him, or respond to His call, or seek Him.

 

[Colter]

4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love
5 he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will...

Makes you think, doesn't it?

In the original gospel it was revealed that all men and women are the sons and daughters of God already. That was the " good news".

 

[miknik5]

The parable of the prodigal son. You can read it as about a sheep that strays, as indeed it very much is, and He told several stories about a precious lost being found, reclaimed. It's one of our deep hopes.

Perhaps every person is born initially His, already, and then many are lost, and many will be found again. They must call to Him, or turn to Him, or respond to His call, or seek Him.

Goats too?

 

[Blade]

1st no.. EVERYTHING God makes is perfect. Now.. we read "God repented" You really need to look into this and not just take it at face value. We did not live up to Gods standards..

Any time you really wonder about how GOD feels about you.. He left heaven and became man..what He made to take all your sins.. on Himself. This is what HE planned for this world was. So.. we really need to DIG and search and PRAY when we get stuck or want to know.. ASK HIM..He is real and talks.. HE will ALWAYS make sure you know where it is written.

 

[miknik5]

In the original gospel it was revealed that all men and women are the sons and daughters of God already. That was the " good news".

Another "gospel"

 

[Aseyesee]

1st no.. EVERYTHING God makes is perfect. Now.. we read "God repented" You really need to look into this and not just take it at face value. We did not live up to Gods standards..

Any time you really wonder about how GOD feels about you.. He left heaven and became man..what He made to take all your sins.. on Himself. This is what HE planned for this world was. So.. we really need to DIG and search and PRAY when we get stuck or want to know.. ASK HIM..He is real and talks.. HE will ALWAYS make sure you know where it is written.

It's a changing perception of who God is in relationship to us.

He chooses Israel, and seemingly, if not for Moses that day in the wilderness he would have wiped them all out and began again.

 

[Colter]

Another "gospel"

The original gospel taught by Jesus.

 

[miknik5]

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The original gospel taught by Jesus.

Then HE would never have said that HE came not to bring peace but division
Or

For judgement I have come

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

You keep dodging the question and giving sermons in answer to some other question. So, I assume that you are bluffing and don't have an answer.


I have read the Bible and know what it says and doesn't say.

So sorry, but was sure I answered all questions you asked of me. What question is being 'dodged'?

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Yes, but we were talking about something else.

We were? I thought we were talking about how to be as HE has called us to be in THIS life...In Him, Through Him and By Him.

 

[Colter]

[

Then HE would never have said that HE came not to bring peace but division
Or

For judgement I have come

The Old Testament thinkers were unable to think outside of their scripture box. A Jewish family wherin one member became a follower of Jesus would become divided by the sword of truth.

 

[Colter]

So sorry, but was sure I answered all questions you asked of me. What question is being 'dodged'?

We were talking about the next life in heaven where we will continue in spiritual growth.