Abortion

[Libby1]

Fact: When they take the 'vacuum' to literally rip the child in the womb apart limb to limb which usually is NOT explained to many teens when they go in for an abortion the child when it's leg is ripped most certainly does feel pain AND he/she tries to get away from what is causing the pain. The child literally will go up to the furthest recess of the womb to try and escape it's torture. This vacuum rips off a leg, a hand, a foot, an arm, the head etc.

Note: I work in a hospital.

There is also the salt solution that is given which literally BURNS the child....burns it's eyes out etc. Alas, NOW they have the PARTIAL BIRTH whre the HEAD is OUT when being born and they can CRUSH it with an instrument or put jab a needle in to KILL it.

Libby1

 

[LilChrist]

true Libby. "Every woman has these same two questions: First, "Is it a baby?" "No" the counselor assures her. "It is a product of conception (or a blood clot, or a piece of tissue). . .How many women would have an abortion, if they told them the truth?" -- "A Walk Through an Abortion Clinic" by Carol Everett ALL About Issues magazine Aug-Sept 1991, p 117
"Sometimes we lied. A girl might ask what her baby was like at a certain
point in the pregnancy: Was it a baby yet? Even as early as 12 weeks a baby is totally formed, he has fingerprints, turns his head, fans his toes, feels pain. But we would say 'It's not a baby yet. It's just tissue, like a
clot.'" --Kathy Sparks told in "The Conversion of Kathy Sparks" by Gloria Williamson, Christian Herald Jan 1986 p 28
Describing an abortion that apparently did not prevent the child from being
born alive, Dr. Haskell said this, "It came out very quickly after I put the scissors up in the cervical canal and pierced the skull and spread the scissors apart...in the previous two, I had used the suction to collapse the skull."
--Dayton Daily News Sun Dec 10 1989
...his little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet. The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby’s head, and the baby’s arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby’s brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen."
You're right, Libby.

 

[LilChrist]

By the way, if anyone says abortion is not murder, I know this is just what a person says, but read...

"I look inside the bucket in front of me. There is a small naked person in
there, floating in a bloody liquid- plainly the tragic victim of a drowning accident. But hen perhaps this was no accident, because the body is purple with bruises and the face has the agonized tauntness of one
forced to die too soon. I have seen this face before, on a Russian soldier
lying on a frozen snow-covered hill, stiff with death, and cold."
--Magda Denes

 

[Godslilgirl7]

wow...nathan where'd u find out all that stuff bout abortion!!??!? u know ur stuff...lol

 

[Godslilgirl7]

dum de de dum...oh ya, i dont like abortion either i dont like ppl that kill innocent lil cute babies!!!! its so wrong!! but they do it anyway...

 

[LilChrist]

I have to go. Enjoyed that talk.

 

[Pious Jedi]

Abortion is murder.

 

[LilChrist]

Those words are so incredibly true. All too true, all too true.

 

[msjones21]

Saying "abortion is murder" is merely an opinion. It's like me calling my Chrysler a Mercedes Benz. Sure, I can think it's a Benz all day long but does that make it one?

 

[jingwei]

Killing an unborn fetus is still killing a human. That is a fact because the fetus is a mere stage in human life. Still:
I would like to thank the abortionists for sending the children into heaven.
I would like to both thank and CONDONE the militant Christian martyrs around the world for their actions against abortion.

 

[msjones21]

I would like to both thank and CONDONE the militant Christian martyrs around the world for their actions against abortion.

That's pretty disgusting that you would not only condone but applaud the actions of people like Eric Robert Rudolph and Neal Horsley. People who condone the bombing of abortion clinics and shooting doctors who perform abortions while they're in their own homes. I'm so glad you support people who prevent women from entering abortion clinics by means of force. I'm so thrilled that you commend people who scream "baby murdering harlot!" from the sidewalks of Planned Parenthood facilities across America. How very "christ-like" of them.

 

[jingwei]

Argh! Sorry, i meant CONDEMN. Big mix up.
But then, you don't let murderers unpunished.

 

[msjones21]

Jingwei, what in the world are you trying to say?

 

[jingwei]

Personally, as long as I warn a pro-abortionist, his/her blood is not in my hands. Make your own choice.

 

[msjones21]

Why do you feel the need to warn them? Warn them of what? That if they have an abortion god will smite them and they will burn in hell? Do you support war, capital punishment? If so then the blood is on your hands as well. Don't think that your opinion only applies to abortion.

 

[jingwei]

I do not support war and capital punishment. I just said I condemn the militant groups for rushing the Lord's work. Vengence belongs to him.

Of course if a baby is threatening its mother's life it should be aborted when there are no options left. Otherwise why can't the mother's just give the babies up for adoption?

 

[msjones21]

Okay, Jingwei, I apologize for misinterpreting what you were trying to state. My bad.

Why can't women go the adoption route? Some women just can't be faced with a pregnancy. Adoption only solves the problem with "how am I going to take care of a child?". Abortion solves the problem of "how am I going to be able to dedicate my time and money to a pregnancy for almost a year out of my life?"

 

[flicka]

Okay, Jingwei, I apologize for misinterpreting what you were trying to state. My bad.

Why can't women go the adoption route? Some women just can't be faced with a pregnancy. Adoption only solves the problem with "how am I going to take care of a child?". Abortion solves the problem of "how am I going to be able to dedicate my time and money to a pregnancy for almost a year out of my life?"

Quite true msjones21. Also, adoption only solves that particular problem if the baby is perfect...sad to say.

 

[msjones21]

Also, adoption only solves that particular problem if the baby is perfect...sad to say.

*applauds* So true. The debate point that really irks me is when people say "there are millions of people out there who want a deserve a baby but there aren't any because they're all being aborted". Why are these couples placing themselves on a five year waiting list to adopt a white, American, newborn when there are already hundreds of thousands of children in America who already need a loving home? Statistics have shown that African-American and Hispanic women are more likely to opt for adoption or abortion and sadly, minority children are considered "less desirable". On that token, I take no pity upon couples who can't have children of their own and yet they somehow see themselves as too good to "settle" for anything less. The real problem is that there are too many yuppie couples who think it's fashionable to adopt a child from Asia but minority children here in America are somehow not good enough?

 

[SallyNow]

The real problem is that there are too many yuppie couples who think it's fashionable to adopt a child from Asia but minority children here in America are somehow not good enough?

I guess you don't know the conditions in Asia, where orpahned girls are left to starve, are stimulated, where orphaned boys recieve only slightly better treatment. The foster care system in America, with all its faults, is still, sadly, better than the lives of those in Asia.

Abortion. Wow. It's loaded word. When the mother's life is in danger, I believe that abortion is allowable. And I know that by five months the "fetus" is a baby. Between then...that is the question. I would hope someone would choose adoption.
Most times, a woman makes a choice to have sex. Sometimes it is protected and something goes wrong. But some women use it as a form of birth control...the one thing I know abortion is/is not is that it is NOT birth control. I do not see a woman who chooses to have unprotected sex as a victim. She is not a victim. She did something, and the consequences of that action is having a baby and giving it up for adoption (or of course keeping it).

Now, just a point...(in my book) a guy who chooses to have unprotected sex is also 50% finacially responsible if a baby is created. He's not off the hook.