Abortion

[ocean]

I believe abortion is OK because a fetus is not a living human. It has no brain, it can not think, it can not feel emotions like love, hate, compassion, anger, fear, etc. It is not even aware of it's own existence! It is life, but it is not alive. The life and well-being of the woman is far more important than the life of the embryo. Scientifically, a fetus is a cancerous growth. Removing an embryo is no more immoral than removing a cancer tumor. Ruining somone's life with an unwanted baby IS immoral. Cancelling a pregnancy is not.

 

[fin]

"Scientifically, a fetus is a cancerous growth."

Huh? Do you have any evidence of this? I don't think a fetus meets the definition of cancer.

 

[ocean]

Actually it does. A fetus is a growth of abnormal cells in the body that can be harmful if not removed. Cancer is a growth of abnormal cells in the body that can be harmful if not removed.

 

[Lanakila]

The slippery slope is when exactly does the "fetus" become a baby human? At conception, birth, or somewhere in between, perhaps. Or possibly a week after birth, or six weeks. Baby humans can feel pain, and although they may not be able to communicate on the level that we adults can, they have every right to live as you or I. To say that fetuses don't have a brain is false also. Very young fetuses have a brain, and fully functioning spinal cord.

 

[ocean]

Babies can feel pain, but a FETUS can not. Fetuses are not aware of their own existence. That is how I define "being alive", when you are aware of your own existence. Once a "baby" is aware of it's own existence, then it can not be aborted.

 

[fin]

Cancer isn't just "a growth of abnormal cells in the body." Cancer is also malignant. Look cancer up in a dictionary; a fetus does not fit the definition. Also, is a fetus abnormal?

 

[ocean]

Yes, a fetus is 'abnormal'. Our bodies don't produce fetus cells on a regular basis. And yes, a fetus can also be considered "malignant".

 

[fin]

"And yes, a fetus can also be considered "malignant"."

Is a fetus "disposed to do evil"? Is it "highly injurious"? Is it "threatening to life; virulent"? I do not believe that a fetus meets this definition. Whether abortion is right or wrong, a fetus is not a cancer.

Judging from the amount of people born each day I would say that a fetus is normal.

Are there any doctors here?

 

[ocean]

A fetus can be threatening to life is it is deformed or not removed (born or aborted) in time.

Many people have cancer. Does that make it "normal"?

 

[ocean]

And this topic isn't about whether or not a fetus is cancer, it's about whether abortion is right or wrong. Back on topic.

 

[ocean]

The question is, when does a fetus become a human being? At conception? At birth? or somewhere in between.? I believe a baby becomes a human when it is aware of it's own existence.

 

[fin]

Right or wrong? I dont think anyone knows when life starts.

 

[KeepTheFaith15]

this is why your dumb thread got removed cause it's dumb WRONG opinions like yours that make this world a living hell today. abortion is wrong, god doesnt make unwanted babies, god doesnt make mistakes. god doesnt like abortion therefore it is wrong, who cares if a fetus cant feel it? it's the fact that the baby has no chance at life. abortion is wrong i dont care how many dumb people and stupid opinions i come across that says it's right there aint no way your gonna convince me it is. i dont care if the person has been raped, i dont care how bad your situation is, abortion is totally wrong therefore it shouldnt even be a law to have them. if you cant handle responisbility for a baby that YOU concieved heres a clue, dont go have sex cause most likely it's bound too happen.

 

[kaotic]

Originally posted by ocean
The question is, when does a fetus become a human being? At conception? At birth? or somewhere in between.? I believe a baby becomes a human when it is aware of it's own existence.

The only problem is that we don't know when a baby becomes a ware of it's own existence.

 

[ocean]

Originally posted by KeepTheFaith15
this is why your dumb thread got removed cause it's dumb WRONG opinions like yours that make this world a living hell today. abortion is wrong, god doesnt make unwanted babies, god doesnt make mistakes. god doesnt like abortion therefore it is wrong, who cares if a fetus cant feel it? it's the fact that the baby has no chance at life. abortion is wrong i dont care how many dumb people and stupid opinions i come across that says it's right there aint no way your gonna convince me it is. i dont care if the person has been raped, i dont care how bad your situation is, abortion is totally wrong therefore it shouldnt even be a law to have them. if you cant handle responisbility for a baby that YOU concieved heres a clue, dont go have sex cause most likely it's bound too happen.

Can't you actually debate an issue without attcking someone? Oh, I forgot. You're 15. Obviously you're not mature enough to debate with the adults.

(This is my last post here at CF. If I post again it would be #666)

 

[Hector Medina]

Most(probably all in my opinion) women who abort will feel at least some kind of regret it because ITS WRONG.

I know of know one personally(that ive talked/seen to in person)that supports abortion.

When a fetus starts forming its a child one of the earliest stages.
When the child is newborn(1 month) it is in a later stage.

If you,lets...say stab the newborn 1 month old baby 10 months avarage after the completion of birth you are IN trouble for murder

If you lets say stab the child at 3 months before birth in fetus stage(child in its earlier stage) you are STILL IN trouble for murder.



Abortion is a form of MURDER and satan will try to make scientific rescearch/birth control and sexist sympathy to make it look good.


Hector

 

[kaotic]

Originally posted by KeepTheFaith15
this is why your dumb thread got removed cause it's dumb WRONG opinions like yours that make this world a living hell today. abortion is wrong, god doesnt make unwanted babies, god doesnt make mistakes. god doesnt like abortion therefore it is wrong, who cares if a fetus cant feel it? it's the fact that the baby has no chance at life. abortion is wrong i dont care how many dumb people and stupid opinions i come across that says it's right there aint no way your gonna convince me it is. i dont care if the person has been raped, i dont care how bad your situation is, abortion is totally wrong therefore it shouldnt even be a law to have them. if you cant handle responisbility for a baby that YOU concieved heres a clue, dont go have sex cause most likely it's bound too happen.

WOW come on don't be mean. Just cause you think it's wrong doesn't make it wrong. And there is no place in the bible where it says god thinks it's wrong. You just think he thinks it's wrong.

Heh I think I made a small strawman there sorry.

 

[kaotic]

Abortion is a form of MURDER and satan will try to make scientific rescearch/birth control and sexist sympathy to make it look good.

Come on Hector Medina, stop calling science evil it's almost like calling me evil I study science and hope to work with science so stop.

 

[KeepTheFaith15]

it saddens me that theres people like you in this world. sorry to be mean, but i guess you gotta take it if your gonna dish it out. and thank you ive been complimented on being more mature then most my age you dont know me. so therefore you should just shut up, thank god this is your last post. this is an issue i am strongly against just like your for it. pretty sad thats theres people like you in this world just makes me wanna cry.

 

[kaotic]

Originally posted by KeepTheFaith15
it saddens me that theres people like you in this world. sorry to be mean, but i guess you gotta take it if your gonna dish it out. and thank you ive been complimented on being more mature then most my age you dont know me. so therefore you should just shut up, thank god this is your last post. this is an issue i am strongly against just like your for it. pretty sad thats theres people like you in this world just makes me wanna cry.

Don't insult ocean or anyone else it's not nice. Come on what is up with everyone today.

Why can't everyone get alone... sad