abortion good or bad?

[JunkYardDog]

I will never have an abortion... of course, but as much as I know drugs are bad without using them I know abortion is wrong.

However people who have had abortion are people who must be helped, not hated.

I don't think I have seen anyone here saying we should hate anyone. However, what do you mean by "helped"?

 

[Panther_Shadow83]

However, what do you mean by "helped"?

i think they mean like if someone needs counseling cuz they realized they made a mistake by getting the abortion...

 

[JunkYardDog]

i think they mean like if someone needs counseling cuz they realized they made a mistake by getting the abortion...

That's fine, but i was kind of hoping the person whom I asked would answer.

 

[Panther_Shadow83]

That's fine, but i was kind of hoping the person whom I asked would answer.

sorry, i was only trying to help.

 

[statrei]

Good or bad for whom?

 

[Panther_Shadow83]

Good or bad for whom?

erm... i think for everyone... like is it good if a woman as an abortion or is it bad... does that make sense??

 

[statrei]

what are you guys and or girls stand on the issue of abortion
i think it is a bad thing every one deserves a chance to live

The question is not whether abortion is good or bad. I know of no one who goes around asking pregnant women to get abortions. We all think abortion should be avoided. The question is whether a woman should be forced to keep a pregnancy she does not wish to keep.

 

[statrei]

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erm... i think for everyone... like is it good if a woman as an abortion or is it bad... does that make sense??

The problem with the question is that we don't know all the facts. What if this woman is a 15 year old who was raped by the boys next door, or by her father (God forbid)? Once you start adding facts to the mix everything changes.

 

[JunkYardDog]

The problem with the question is that we don't know all the facts. What if this woman is a 15 year old who was raped by the boys next door, or by her father (God forbid)? Once you start adding facts to the mix everything changes.

Why would those facts change whether or not it is right to murder and innocent child?

 

[statrei]

Why would those facts change whether or not it is right to murder and innocent child?

They would change them if you were the girl.

 

[MC1171611]

They would change them if you were the girl.

Ok, now I'm not a girl (never have been) but I know that TRUTH IS NEVER RELATIVE. If something is wrong, then it will always be wrong, regardless of the circumstances. If you want to have an abortion, then I can't stop you, but remember, the heart is: "decietful above all things, and desperately wicked, who can know it?"

 

[JunkYardDog]

They would change them if you were the girl.

Not really. I have interviewed women who have become pregnant under tough circumstances and those who had abortions always regretted it (and not all of these were "pro-life" when they said this).

 

[TheReasoner]

The problem with the question is that we don't know all the facts. What if this woman is a 15 year old who was raped by the boys next door, or by her father (God forbid)? Once you start adding facts to the mix everything changes.

The kid should be put up for adoption then. I doubt the mother would feel much love for a living reminder of the most horrible thing that can happen to her.

But killed?! no.
I don't think so.

That is not to say I don't sympathise for women who do get an abortion in such settings. I do! And I also understand why they would choose an abortion. However hard it must be to go nine months with a living reminder in you about such a horrible thing... First hell during the act, then hell for nine months, and more. Oh, I understand them very well indeed. And I think we should stand by them no matter what choice they take.
But however hard it must be, I would encourage them to get the child and put him or her up for adoption if they don't want to keep it.

 

[ebia]

In a case like that, there is no good answer, just a choice of bad ones.

 

[TheReasoner]

True, ebia. True.

 

[statrei]

Not really. I have interviewed women who have become pregnant under tough circumstances and those who had abortions always regretted it (and not all of these were "pro-life" when they said this).

You carefully tiptoed around the fact that "YOU ARE NOT THE GIRL." The issue is not whether one ever regrets having an abortion.

 

[louchstr87]

Abortion is murder. Murder is the ultimate sin, which can NEVER be justified.

 

[TheReasoner]

Abortion is murder. Murder is the ultimate sin, which can NEVER be justified.

Oh no. There are worse sins.

Pedophilia for instance. Killing can be justified. Self defense, is still killing.

Abusing a child.... Now THAT is completely impossible to justify!

 

[statrei]

Ok, now I'm not a girl (never have been) but I know that TRUTH IS NEVER RELATIVE. If something is wrong, then it will always be wrong, regardless of the circumstances. If you want to have an abortion, then I can't stop you, but remember, the heart is: "decietful above all things, and desperately wicked, who can know it?"

It does amaze me how when it comes to another of other areas in which the Bible is equally vocal we suddenly find that truth CAN be relative. Hey, we even ended up making Jesus be an advocate of divorce on the basis of such selective reasoning.

 

[TheReasoner]

It does amaze me how when it comes to another of other areas in which the Bible is equally vocal we suddenly find that truth CAN be relative. Hey, we even ended up making Jesus be an advocate of divorce on the basis of such selective reasoning.

Selectice theology/selective faith/belief can be exceptionally dangerous.
So can blind faith, because that can be easilly manipulated too. If you just know how.