Abortion Discussion

[AirPo]

I'm telling you that, if you don't do something, the success rate of not doing it is 100%. But really, what on earth is 100%? Even the best in the NBA make about 60% of their shots. The point is that sex education does not get the point across of not having sex until you're ready for children. Why? Because it goes at it wrong. It's like sticking a cookie on a plate in front of a child and saying "don't eat it." What you can do is explain why it's wrong at this time, why it's right at another time, and why it's right and wrong.
All of us sin. My gripe is this: Why should someone who admittedly sins (has sex when they do not want a child) and causes a consequence (getting pregnant) get away with murder? I sympathize with those victims of sexual abuse and rape that get pregnant. Were they to seek an abortion, I would rather they don't but can understand. But the vast majority of abortions are not those people.
I examine my conscience every day and try to find ways to be a better person. Lots of people don't even think about what they're doing when they have sex and cause a pregnancy, then they want to just suck it out. Why not try to live a moral life, in general, without all the excess consumption of food, alcohol, drugs and sex? All of them are such short term pleasures. I, personally, would choose eternal happiness over a minute or so of sexual pleasure.

That's not the point of sex education. That's not even reality.

 

[Root of Jesse]

That's not the point of sex education. That's not even reality.

Maybe not your reality, but in places where it has been advised and practiced, it is largely more successful than abortion and BC.

 

[AirPo]

Maybe not your reality, but in places where it has been advised and practiced, it is largely more successful than abortion and BC.

And where is that?

 

[Root of Jesse]

And where is that?

Google it. I'm sure you'll find it, if you're interested.

 

[Desk trauma]

Why not try to live a moral life, in general, without all the excess consumption of food, alcohol, drugs and sex?

I do live a moral life, we just have differing ideas of what that is.

 

[AirPo]

Google it. I'm sure you'll find it, if you're interested.

Like I said then, not reality.

 

[Root of Jesse]

I do live a moral life, we just have differing ideas of what that is.

Well then, yours isn't the Truth. Truth is universally true. Abstinence prevents pregnancy 100%.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Like I said then, not reality.

Didn't you mean "Not really interested"?

 

[Desk trauma]

Well then, yours isn't the Truth. Truth is universally true.

Because we have differing ideas of what a moral life is I am automatically wrong?

Abstinence prevents pregnancy 100%.

Are you contractually obligated to insert that into every post?

 

[AirPo]

Didn't you mean "Not really interested"?

No, I was interested. That's why pointed out that "not having sex until you're ready for children" is a myth.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Because we have differing ideas of what a moral life is I am automatically wrong?

It's not up to me. It's up to God. I go with God. He's right. I get it wrong sometimes. But if you think you can have sex outside of marriage and abort babies, then yeah, I go with God.

Are you contractually obligated to insert that into every post?

Until it's understood to be Truth, yes. Live with it.

 

[Root of Jesse]

No, I was interested. That's why pointed out that "not having sex until you're ready for children" is a myth.

No, it's not. I know lots of parents that teach their children just this, not to listen to birth control myths and never to fall back on abortion as a solution when birth control doesn't work. At the very least, I can say that none of them ever got pregnant. Which is proof that, when abstinence and waiting until marriage are employed, they are 100% successful.

 

[Root of Jesse]

I do live a moral life, we just have differing ideas of what that is.

Where does your idea that you lead a moral life come from? Who says that you, particularly, lead a moral life?

 

[AirPo]

No, it's not. I know lots of parents that teach their children just this, not to listen to birth control myths and never to fall back on abortion as a solution when birth control doesn't work. At the very least, I can say that none of them ever got pregnant. Which is proof that, when abstinence and waiting until marriage are employed, they are 100% successful.

Good for them, but that's not how the rest of the world works.

 

[Desk trauma]

Where does your idea that you lead a moral life come from?

The same place yours does, society and my own take on various ideas.

Who says that you, particularly, lead a moral life?

I do.

 

[Desk trauma]

Which is proof that, when abstinence and waiting until marriage are employed, they are 100% successful.

Yet when studied curriculums based around that result in the outcomes you are trying to avoid, unwanted predicts, STIs, abortions, are less effective.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Yet when studied curriculums based around that result in the outcomes you are trying to avoid, unwanted predicts, STIs, abortions, are less effective.

Oh, so you're going to blame the 'participants' for not following the premise? My point is that when it is used correctly it is 100% effective. Same cannot be said for birth control methods, which results in women having abortions.
You do also know that the availability of birth control and abortion makes women more sex objects than before, when they weren't so readily available, right?

 

[civilwarbuff]

That follows the old adage: Why buy the cow when the milk is free?

 

[SteveB28]

Well, it is customary if one makes a statement that one provides the support for it and not expect other people to do their research for them; you have been here long enough to know that.

And, if you've quite finished blowing hot air, you might care to address the findings in that study?

 

[ToddNotTodd]

That follows the old adage: Why buy the cow when the milk is free?

I've personally never used that phrase, since only horrible terrible people use it.