Abomination of desolation

[rebaa]

I fear some folks like to hear themselfs.

 

[Justme]

To my good friend PC,

Your whole argument hinges on the assumption that the resurrection of the righteous is sometime ahead of the resurrection of the wicked. I would guess there are probably not to many that agree with that and I am one of them

I will give one more biblical example to prove they are at the same time.

Matthew 25
2All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

Jesus is judging and the results of this judgment is as follows:

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

When will this happen?

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory.

Now let's go up a level.

Once upon a time God decided to create man and just to be nice He decided to give man eternal life.
Titus 1:2
a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,

However, Adam wrecked this plan a bit and this happened:

God was ticked off:
Gen 3

19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return."

A few hundred years later Adam died. Many verse tell us that man 'sleeps' after death...

2 Sam 7:12
And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.

This is because eternal life has been shut down by Adam's sin. The only thing that can reinstate eternal life for mankind is the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

This is why people prior to the cross 'slept in the dust.' One such person was Daniel. You accept that as you stated here:

"I think the answer to that question will become obvious at the second advent when Daniel is raised as a part of the righteous dead and "we who are alive will be caught up with them together."
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You see PC Daniel is one of those who sleep in the dust Daniel 12:13 prove that.
13 "As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance."

You agree with this here:
How many righteous dead are raised at the second coming along with the righteous living? Both living and dead righteous are raised, "caught up together in the clouds."
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.....because Daniel is one of the righteous dead who will rise at the end and as you say be caught up to the clouds. BUT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What about the sheep and the goats what about the sequence in Matthew 25:46?
46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
Notice the wicked are mentioned first and once again both at the same event.

The next thing is that these are the rest of the dead that CAN NOT precede those who are alive at the coming and ARE AFTER those who reign with Christ for 1000 years.

I think you said you like to look at more than one or two verses to figure things out. HOw many different ways have we shown you the the wicked and the sleeping righteous aren't a long time apart?

I want to point out one thing to show how mixed up you read biblical verses.
From one of your posts:

"Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."
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From this very straight forward statement, you come up with:

The secret room is where they will say we should look for Christ. If the temple is a replica built by Satan at the time of the end spoken of by Daniel then the secret room will be where he sits.
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You turn the meaning around 180 degrees, how can you constantly do this?
The statement says NOT TO BELIEVE that Jesus is in the secret chambers!!!!!!!!!!!

A quick look at the abomination that causes desolation. ...we touch on the topic of the thread occasionally, that's good........

This abomination is going to appear in the Holy Plae. We have discussed before that there was a room called the 'holy place' in the temple that was destroyed.

I don't think we have discussed that the district of Judea also ceased to exist in 70 AD. So it is quite tricky for any abomination today to appear in that holy place and it would be equally as difficult to flee that Judea.

You wrote:

So get this straight, I am going to knock you off your smug little perch before you frighten any new comers off this site.
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Okay

Justme

 

[Justme]

Hi PC,

I'm trying desparately to cling to my perch so I thought I'd just throw in one more biblical proof the resurrections of the righteous and the wicked happen at the same time which of course means that the first resurrection of Rev 20 is BEFORE the parousia. This also touches a teenie bit on Rev 11.

19Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.

The above is nice to know, but when is it? Well, the verse preceding it says this:

18The nations were angry; and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your saints and those who reverence your name,
both small and great--
and for destroying those who destroy the earth."

There is that time of judging the dead again. Come to think of it there isn't two times there is there?

In a post a long time ago you brought up this verse:
12Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

You used this to tell me about those 'left behind.' Away went somebody to heaven and some stayed on earth, those on earth were the enemy of those who left to go to heaven. Who were these people who went to heaven?
Well, they were the two witnesses.

So who were the enemies?
Well it was this group who experienced this:
11But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them.

You may ask, but who were they?
Well, they were these people.
10The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.
Well sure, but who are these people, the enemies I mean?

Well here is a general description:
9For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial.

So these witnesses were killed and laid in the streets and nobody would bury them. They just laid there in the streets of the city:!!!!What city?

Well, this city:
8Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt,

Well, sure figuratively, but what city that we would know?
where also their Lord was crucified. ....Jerusalem

You remember the first verse I quoted about Gods temple in heaven being opened? Think of that while you read this:
Hebrews 9
11When Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not man-made, that is to say, not a part of this creation. 12He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption.

What I really want to show you here is that once again there is an indication that the general resurrection which follows the first resurrection of Rev 20 is only one event. Verse 18.

Thanks
Justme

 

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I fear some folks like to hear themselfs.

Yeah, and some people have nothing to say eccept stupid remarks because they are morons with an IQ rating of three and that’s being generous.

They say "there’s one in every forest."

Go talk to the trees?

Also this is the first time I’ve spoken to the missing link a Neanderthal.

How easy was that! Took me 15 seconds to do what you do best,,, nothing!!!

"hear themselfs?" where were you educated? In a barn? You can’t even spell properly.

 

[rebaa]

Yeah, and some people have nothing to say eccept stupid remarks because they are morons with an IQ rating of three and that’s being generous.

They say "there’s one in every forest."

Go talk to the trees?

Also this is the first time I’ve spoken to the missing link a Neanderthal.

How easy was that! Took me 15 seconds to do what you do best,,, nothing!!!

"hear themselfs?" where were you educated? In a barn? You can’t even spell properly.

Thank you for the kind words, and response.

Also this is the first time I’ve spoken to the missing link a Neanderthal.

You don't believe the creation as written in Genesis?

 

[rebaa]

double post

 

[Justme]

Hi Rebaa,

I think that was a mean kinda thing put towards you there.
I'd step in and speak up for you, but somehow I think you can handle yourself just fine.

Does the Rebaa have anything to do with a redheaded singer?


Justme

 

[rebaa]

Thanks JM thick skin is a gene preachers kids are given at birth. I wish i could sing, but i sing 'worser' then i spell!

Reba is simply from my given name Rebecca.

 

[Hitch]

I ve thought for a long time that futurism isnt always the result of doctinal error. The cause must be something deeper.

H

 

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To my good friend PC,

Your whole argument hinges on the assumption that the resurrection of the righteous is sometime ahead of the resurrection of the wicked. I would guess there are probably not to many that agree with that and I am one of them

I will give one more biblical example to prove they are at the same time.

Matthew 25
2All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

Jesus is judging and the results of this judgment is as follows:

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

When will this happen?

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory.

Now let's go up a level.

Once upon a time God decided to create man and just to be nice He decided to give man eternal life.
Titus 1:2
a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,

However, Adam wrecked this plan a bit and this happened:

God was ticked off:
Gen 3

19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return."

A few hundred years later Adam died. Many verse tell us that man 'sleeps' after death...

2 Sam 7:12
And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.

This is because eternal life has been shut down by Adam's sin. The only thing that can reinstate eternal life for mankind is the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

This is why people prior to the cross 'slept in the dust.' One such person was Daniel. You accept that as you stated here:

"I think the answer to that question will become obvious at the second advent when Daniel is raised as a part of the righteous dead and "we who are alive will be caught up with them together."
***********************************

You see PC Daniel is one of those who sleep in the dust Daniel 12:13 prove that.
13 "As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance."

You agree with this here:
How many righteous dead are raised at the second coming along with the righteous living? Both living and dead righteous are raised, "caught up together in the clouds."
*******************
.....because Daniel is one of the righteous dead who will rise at the end and as you say be caught up to the clouds. BUT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What about the sheep and the goats what about the sequence in Matthew 25:46?
46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
Notice the wicked are mentioned first and once again both at the same event.

The next thing is that these are the rest of the dead that CAN NOT precede those who are alive at the coming and ARE AFTER those who reign with Christ for 1000 years.

I think you said you like to look at more than one or two verses to figure things out. HOw many different ways have we shown you the the wicked and the sleeping righteous aren't a long time apart?

I want to point out one thing to show how mixed up you read biblical verses.
From one of your posts:

"Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."
*************************
From this very straight forward statement, you come up with:

The secret room is where they will say we should look for Christ. If the temple is a replica built by Satan at the time of the end spoken of by Daniel then the secret room will be where he sits.
*********************
You turn the meaning around 180 degrees, how can you constantly do this?
The statement says NOT TO BELIEVE that Jesus is in the secret chambers!!!!!!!!!!!

A quick look at the abomination that causes desolation. ...we touch on the topic of the thread occasionally, that's good........

This abomination is going to appear in the Holy Plae. We have discussed before that there was a room called the 'holy place' in the temple that was destroyed.

I don't think we have discussed that the district of Judea also ceased to exist in 70 AD. So it is quite tricky for any abomination today to appear in that holy place and it would be equally as difficult to flee that Judea.

You wrote:

So get this straight, I am going to knock you off your smug little perch before you frighten any new comers off this site.
***********************

Okay

Justme

Hi there 66Books Colbey, let me make one thing absolutely clear. I am not a friend of Justme and I will show you why later.

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To my good friend PC,

Your whole argument hinges on the assumption that the resurrection of the righteous is sometime ahead of the resurrection of the wicked. I would guess there are probably not to many that agree with that and I am one of them
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Here you go again accusing me of making assumptions then immediately make them yourself.

No, the resurrection of life happens way before the resurrection of damnation and that it is not "wholly" based on an "assumption" but is wholly based on the Bible!

Daniel 12:1. And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED, EVERY ONE that shall be found written IN THE BOOK.

The resurrection of life is done FIRST!

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Firstly Matt 24 and we can see what Jesus says there.

Matt 24:31. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matt 24:40. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41Twogrinding at the mill; the ONE shall be TAKEN, and the OTHER LEFT. 42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

What happens to the faithful servant next?

Matt 24: 45. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46. BLESSED is that SERVANT, whom his lord when HE COMETH shall find so doing.

The blessing in Heaven is given at the wedding supper for the righteous. Rev 19:1. And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God.

Rev 19: 9. And he saith unto me, Write, BLESSED are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God

So, irrefutable biblical evidence FRON Daniel and Matt so far, that the righteous are Raised FIRST before the wicked who are left behind and put to the sword and stay dead for 1000 years.

So, the blessing is given to them just before the wicked "remnant" get the chop at when His army return to Earth . Armageddon.

Rev 19: 19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Rev 19: 21. And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

So much for the wicked "remnant" living, at the time of the second coming, they are put to the sword and are NOT resurrected. So that’s Daniel, Matt, and John, in agreement so far.

To recap, Who are blessed whilst the wicked remain dead? The following group raised first.

Rev 20: 4. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Who are left dead? The wicked who have NOT been raised and miss out.

Rev 20: 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

Now who gets a blessing whilst the wicked dead stay dead?

Rev 20 This is the first resurrection. 6BLESSED and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.



When do the wicked dead rise to be burned?

Rev 20:7. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Rev 20:9. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Now for Mark 13: 24. But in those days, AFTER THAT TRIBULATION, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26And THEN SHALL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING in the clouds WITH GREAT POWER and glory.

27And then shall he send his angels, and shall GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT from the four winds, FROM THE UTTERMOST PART OF THE EARTH to the uttermost part of heaven.

There we go the "good guys" gathered and off to Heaven.

So far we Have Daniel, Matthew, Mark and now Luke in agreement to follow.

Again the "good guys" are redeemed firstly.

Luke 21:25. And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your REDEMPTION DRAWETH NIGH.





Luke 21:36. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

 

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Again in Matt the righteous are given a blessing first

Matt 25:32. before him shall be GATHERED ALL NATIONS: and he shall SEPARATE THEM ONE FROM ANOTHER, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

Where are all the "good guys" in all the nations after they are all judged? Well, the "good guys " are in Heaven.

Rev 19:1. And after these things I heard a great voice of MUCH PEOPLE IN HEAVEN, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

Matt 25: 9And he saith unto me, Write, BLESSED are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the KING SHALL SAY TO THEM ON HIS RIGHT hand, COMES, YE BE BLESSED of my Father, INHERIT THE KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Well there you go, they get their blessing in heaven being a part of the first resurrection and they get to the start of their inheritance next.

Which is?

Rev 20: And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

What about the dead killed at Armageddon and the wicked dead who died over the span of centuries?

Rev20. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

"Good guys." Raised firstly.

Rev 20: This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.



Bad guys resurrected a 1000 years later and executed.

Rev 20: 7. And WHEN THE THOUSAND YEARS EXPIRED, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the NATIONS which are in the four quarters OF THE EARTH, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Matt 25: 41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting FIRE PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL; and his angels:

After the thousand years when Satan is released he deceives the nations.

Rev: 20 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and DEVOURED THEM.

Here’s the fire used on Satan when he is released after the 1000 years prepared for the him.

Rev 20:10. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

After the wicked go away into the fire. The righteous live forever.

 

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Math 25: 46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."


That deals with that business and your assumptions about one resurrection at one time .

Now for your next assumption.

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This next portion of diatribe is why I will never ever be friends with someone that bears false witness against me by being sloppy with his/her reading abilities.!!!

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Justme states, quote. "I want to point out one thing to show how mixed up you read biblical verses."
From one of your posts:

"Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."
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From this very straight forward statement, you come up with:

The secret room is where they will say we should look for Christ. If the temple is a replica built by Satan at the time of the end spoken of by Daniel then the secret room will be where he sits.
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You turn the meaning around 180 degrees, how can you constantly do this?
The statement says NOT TO BELIEVE that Jesus is in the secret chambers!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, folks this is a prime example of someone shooting themselves in the foot. You cam now se the problem. Not only does Justme read the Bible incorrectly but reads what she/he wants to read with what I say as well. Justme is the one changing what I said around a 180 degrees.

So called "friends" just don’t do that to each other, It’s called bearing false witness.

Lets see why and what I actually said.

Noting the clear warnings from our Lord not to believe it in the next verse I made my comment.

Matt 24:26. Wherefore IF THEY SHALL SAY unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

Note after I mention our Lord’s name as "Christ" at the end of my sentence I then used a FULL STOP. I paraphrase the first part of the above verse.

"The secret room is where they will say we should look for Christ."

After which I place a capital letter for a new sentence with the word "If."



Also as you read this sentence please note, I do NOT refer to the Christ because I did NOT use the word He with a capital H, but am referring to Satan.

If the temple is a replica built by Satan at the time of the end spoken of by Daniel then the secret room will be where he sits.``````
To prove my point further here this is something from another post but is of course on the same view as I have just explained.

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Justme said, So the only place left is the HOLY HILL. Because as Justme says the Temple is "Kapoot" which I think means kaput.

Bible.
Daniel 11:45. And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

So this person in the last verse is going to "plant his tabernacle," "between the seas in the glorious holy mountain." So the Lamb that speaks like a dragon is going to build his Tabernacle "in the glorious holy mountain."
SATAN NEEDS IT TO SIT IN it, he says "I will be like the Most High.

Now the next question is, at what TIME will he do it? And what will happen when he does?
THE BIBLE'S VERY NEXT VERSE TELLS US.

Dan12:1. And AT THAT TIME shall MICHAEL STAND UP, the GREAT PRINCE which STANDETH for the CHILDREN of THY PEOPLE: and there shall be a TIME OF TROUBLE, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED, every one that shall be FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE.

So he will do it at "the time of the end" spoken of in Daniel 12:11. For 1290 days. That is just before the first resurrection at trumpet number 7.
The next question, is how long will he Satan, get away with it?

Daniel is given the answer.

Daniel 12:11. And from the time the daily shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

So the answer is, about 3 ½ years. See, the question in Dan 12:5-7.
For how long things shall these wonders be allowed to go on for until the end.

When the last angel's trumpet sounds then the mystery of God will be understood. See, Rev 10:6-7.


"Justme, you must open your eyes, the seventh trumpet in Rev 11 occurs at the FIRST RESURRECTION AT THE TIME OF THE END, that is not back in 70AD."
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I’m still waiting folks for the impossible when Justme said.

Quote.

"PC, I'm going to deal with this bit about the birds. And this time don't just cut and paste the whole bible, just the verses that prove your point ....about the birds...OK? I have never seen anyone come up withe this bird thing before so I'm guessing you might be on your own dealing with it and unable to use canned answers."

Maranatha.

 

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"Thank you for the kind words, and response."

Oh please, don’t thank me, it was a real and absolute pleasure in saying them.

Some body asked me a question?

"You don't believe the creation as written in Genesis?

Oh yes I do believe in creation absolutely.

However, what if Satan was to come along with some devilish plan, by trying to make out that they actually exist!!!
Just to try and deceive the very elect by trying to disprove creation!

Or even worse, what if some of his angels were to manifest themselves as Neanderthal type human beings as messengers of God?

Boy that could catch a lot of people out!!!

Mind you, it could be a referral to a similar or likeness to, Neanderthal and nothing more, in response to smart remarks placed by that type of being.

LOL

 

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I see Islam as one of many pagan religions,and its crude for sure.But I dont see them as the soil of which the antichrist comes up.
I believe the AC grows up from Anti Christ Jews,( that does not include all Jews).
Where did Anti Christ's Originally spring up from? Was it not the religious Jews of the Time of Christ, Pharasee's etc. ? Yep thats the answer.

 

[Justme]

HI to my enemy PC,
Sorry, seems I got you in a mess with books and colby by calling you friend. Hope this greeting helps.

PC feels he has been unfairly dealt with. If I read this all wrong PC I am sorry. I'll bring up what was said and people can give me the gears if I misunderstood you Okay.

In the origonal post you said this:
Please not folks before I continue, I would like to bring your attention to where Satan builds his tabernacle, which is to be built on the mount at the sides of the North, as I said quoting the Bible from Matt 24 26 "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."

The secret room is where they will say we should look for Christ. If the temple is a replica built by Satan at the time of the end spoken of by Daniel then the secret room will be where he sits.

Isaiah 14: O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
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You want us to pay attention to where saton builds his tabernackle and you describe where it is.
Then you say IF ..THEN ....the secret room will be where he sits....

In a post prior to this you asked me this:

Do you know where the secret chambers are? Get a copy of the Jerusalem Temple plans and you will see.

I'll leave this up to the readers. Sometimes we just can't see the tree for the forest and this can easily be what I'm doing. If I am then most assuredly I owe PC an apology and a beer, too.

Justme

 

[Justme]

Hi PC,

From your post:

Now for Mark 13: 24. But in those days, AFTER THAT TRIBULATION, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26And THEN SHALL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING in the clouds WITH GREAT POWER and glory.

27And then shall he send his angels, and shall GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT from the four winds, FROM THE UTTERMOST PART OF THE EARTH to the uttermost part of heaven.

There we go the "good guys" gathered and off to Heaven.
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Well, when they left they weren't the 'good guys.' Methinks you have it backwards again.

In the Olivet Discourse we have many folllowing verses referring to 'you.'

... 6YOU will hear of wars and rumors of wars,........

.... 9"Then YOU will be handed over to be persecuted .....

.... 26"So if anyone tells YOU, 'There he is, out in the desert,'....

.... 23At that time if anyone says to YOU, 'Look, here is the Christ!'...

Jesus spoke these words to the 'you' that was standing there listening to Him. I would guess that you would argue that those 'you' represent the 'good guys' thru history right up to 'you.'

Well, first they were the 'you' who Jesus asked for prayers for to flee and avoid the great tribulation. More importantly take a look at who it is that 'sees the son of man coming on the clouds." IT IS THEY. Those other than 'you,' they who:

... 12"But before all this, THEY will lay hands on you and persecute you. ..
...THEY will deliver you to synagogues and prisons,...
...And finally..
Matthew 24..THEY will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky,

They , the bad guys, because the friends of Jesus, the good guys, had fled as soon as they saw the abomination that causes desolation that appeared in the holy place. The good guys went to the mountains before the great tribulation killed off the bad guys and so it was THEY who saw the son of man coming on the clouds.

Which way do you want it? Did the bad guys see Jesus and get judged FIRST? Or did the bad guys go to Heaven and become good guys? Did the flight to the mountains constitute those who were 'left behind?' Did those 'good guys' actually get raptured and only flee to the mountains figuratively...and if that happened show me scripture to prove it.


Justme

 

[looksgood]

Well from what I have been hearing the dome on the rock will soon be falling. In fact in the current news section I posted about a wall that fell. I fully expect the dome to come down and make way for the temple to be built. It is in that temple the actual man of sin (antichrist) will go into and proclaim himself god. He is the abomination, and is desolate on the inside. Maybe I should make a post about something I learnt about him.

But yeah, the dome will come down for bible prophecy to be fulfilled. I don't really know how the dome can be seen as the abomination of desolation.

 

[Hitch]

But yeah, the dome will come down for bible prophecy to be fulfilled. I don't really know how the dome can be seen as the abomination of desolation.


What prophecy?


Hitch

 

[looksgood]

But yeah, the dome will come down for bible prophecy to be fulfilled. I don't really know how the dome can be seen as the abomination of desolation.


What prophecy?


Hitch

The same scripture that the others speak of as to the abomination of desolation.

2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

This speaks of the actual man of sin, and he can be shown to be an actual person through the scriptures. In order for this to happen the temple must be rebuilt. Thus we may as well see this as a prophecy.

 

[rebaa]

21 Cor 3:17
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
KJV
Cor 6:16
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
KJV
1 Cor 3:16
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
KJV
1 Cor 6:19
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
KJV
2 Cor 13:5
5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
KJV
Eph 2:19-22
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
KJV


Who set on the throne of your heart? Self? We do tend to be our own worst ememy. Who sets in 'HIS habitation' and declares he is God?