The Bible said, as we have just read in "Rev 20" 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished."
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Now Atkin, what do you want? You say you did not ask the question then blame me for not answering it after changing it?
Here was part of my statement, which was left out by you when you re-quoted me.
"Here’s what happens to the wicked that were left behind on Earth, and who were not part of the first resurrection of life during the tribulation. If you read through you will see that they are destroyed by the sword.
Rev 19: 14. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19: 17. And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19: 20.And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21. And THE REMNANT were SLAIN WITHT THE SWORD of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
"Have I forgotten anybody? No."
"The RIGHTEOUS ARE RAISED ALL the WICKED ARE DEAD, and they will remain dead for a thousand years!"
"Rev 20: 1, 2, 3, 4 Satan is bound a 1000 years.
When will Satan and the wicked dead rise?"
"Rev 20" 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished."
Atkin quote.
"AFTER THE 1000 YEARS HAVE ENDED, CHRIST IS STILL ON EARTH.
CHRIST WHO IS GOD IN FLESH IS ON EARTH AFTER THE 1000 YEARS."
"YES OR NO???"
"YES, BECAUSE CHRIST WOULD HAVE BEEN RULING FOR 1000 YEARS TILL AFTER THJE 1000 YEARS."
My response.
"Still on earth?"
Are you saying, that Jesus is on Earth all the time during His reign of a thousand years?
What do you mean when you say, quote "Christ is still on Earth?"
Are you saying that Christ will never leave the Earth during the thousand years?
Atkin you said.
"Anyone who says Christ is ON EARTH, VISIBLY during and AFTER THE 1000 YEARS has to then explain WHY CHRIST IS SO WEAK TO ALLOW SATAN TO DECEIVE MILLIONS AFTER THE 1000 YEARS."
My response.
Who says Jesus is on the earth for the whole thousand years?
Where does the Bible say word for word that Jesus is invisible during the 1000 years, word for word?
Are you saying that Christ is weak because he allows Satan to deceive the wicked? HE destroys Satan and his followers with fire, are you saying that, that is weak?
On that bases do you Atkin, think the Christ is weak, in letting Satan deceive Adam and Eve and the rest of mankind?
What about the angels being led astray by Satan in heaven, was that a sign of weakness by God?
Jesus was visible to Adam and Eve at the time of their being led astray.
It was their free choice to make.
This is a repeat of what took place at an earlier post.
This was the part that you left out of my original post.
Originally Posted By: Prophecy Countdown.
The unrighteous people are a part of the resurrection of damnation.
After the 1000 years all the wicked dead are raised to be burned to death.
Rev 20: 7.And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9.And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
When we read what Atkin suggests next we can see why he left out my above verses and remarks, which clearly shows that the righteous are raised whether they are dead or alive in Christ, and that the wicked dead are left in their graves AFTER Armageddon, until "the 1000 years is finished."
Now lets see why Atkin was so intent of leaving out my above Bible verses. When he made these comments which I will answer with the very same verses.
Atkin, your original question stands, because you asked it and this was my reply.
Atkin’s next assumption and question.
"Cannot cut it."
"Explain how Satan deceives millions in Revelation 20:7-8 in the PHYSICAL PRESENCE OF Christ is ruling with A ROD OF IRON for the PREVIOUS 1000 years. You cannot."
My reply was.
Satan does NOTHING, nor deceives anybody UNTIL THE 1000 YEARS HAS FINISHED.
Rev 20: 2. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
SATAN IS BOUND FOR A THOUSAND YEARS! So why do you ask such a question about Satan deceiving anybody during the millennium?
The Bible said, as we have just read in "Rev 20" 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished."
ALL the dead ARE DEAD, and Satan IS BOUND FOR A THOUSAND YEARS!
How on Earth can he deceive ANYBODY?
WAKE UP MAN, READ WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS!!!
So why do you ask me this next question?
Atkin’s question repeated.
Cannot cut it.
"Explain how Satan deceives millions in Revelation 20:7-8 in the PHYSICAL PRESENCE OF Christ is ruling with A ROD OF IRON for the previous 1000 years. You cannot."
My reply.
Satan is in the pit for a thousand years and does NOT DECEIVE ANYBODY DURING IT! Is that a good enough answer?
Atkin, you claim that the thousand years starts at the "first resurrection of the Saints" at the resurrection of Christ in 33AD.
You said quote, "first resurrection happens first."
That is not right because that was not the first resurrection chronologically.
From post 196 page 20.
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Atkin’s quote.
"THE FIRST RESURRECTION HAPPENS FIRST of course with Christ's resurrection."
"ONLY THEN DOES THE 1000 YEAR reign begin."
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The Bibles does NOT say that, that was the first resurrection that happens first, at the resurrection of the Christ. You assume that!
Read this.
Luke 20:36. Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. 37. Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. 38. For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
Those that were first raised were, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then there was Moses being raised next, then so far as we know "many Saints," then those to be raised at the second coming of Christ. That’s a few resurrections at different times and the Saints who were raised at the resurrection of Christ were around a later number from the first in numerical order, and therefore are not the first raised as you would have us believe.
So on that erroneous basis you start the 1000 years, presuming that it starts at what you call "the first resurrection of the Saints."
There is no way you can know when the first resurrection, numerically took place, so nobody can start the 1000 years from the first resurrection that occurred with Abraham.
You and I haven’t a clue as to whether they, Isaac or Jacob were raised at the same time with Abraham or whether Abraham was raised first.
We can only start the 1000 years from the fulfilment of the first resurrection of life at the second coming!
Atkin’s quote.
REVELATION 20:1-3 DOES NOT FOLLOW CHRONOLOGICALLY AFTER REVELATION 19:11-15
My reply.
Yes it does follow chronologically.
On the mistaken bases that the 1000 years starts in 33AD which you mistakenly claim as being the first resurrection chronologically, you trap yourself and cannot say anything else.
You cannot back your statement up biblically. You have to ignore and deny that the obvious fact that Rev 19: 1 to 21 precedes Rev 20: 1to 15 which precedes Rev 21: and Rev 22.
All this mess because you mistakenly call the resurrection of the Saints, "the first resurrection" chronologically.
Just to cover something important, in case you try and argue that the resurrection of Christ is where we should count His Messiahship from. Let me make it clear that Jesus has always been the resurrection of life always.
He was the Saviour from the very beginning.
Not just from His resurrection.
Isaiah 45:21. Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. 22. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Atkin, you have to prove biblically, when the first resurrection took place and unfortunately for you, it can’t be done, so bang goes your theory as from when the 1000 years starts which you claim is from 33AD.
