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A simple fix for the Transgender issue.

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality' started by Ken-1122, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. Ken-1122

    Ken-1122 Newbie

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    Hence the problem. If we take gender out of the picture, they will have nothing to complain about.
     
  2. Tree of Life

    Tree of Life Hide The Pain Supporter

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    Hah! Just ignore em!
     
  3. Strathos

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    Not sure about the other issues, but they should just make public bathrooms coed. Just have individual stalls. Lots of places do this already and they have no problems. It would put the whole thing to rest.
     
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  5. Messerve

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    What places do that? I mean, single occupant bathrooms obviously have to be coed, but large public bathrooms I've never seen.
     
  6. Ophiolite

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    They object to that view . . . whether you like it or not.
     
  7. hedrick

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    In restroom design, private is the new public. I hadn't thought of it before, but there turn out to be a number of people who could use this.
     
  8. Messerve

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    Now that's not a bad idea. I'm all for a little extra privacy in the bathroom. Eliminates a lot of the aspects of public bathrooms I hated ("Can people see me through that gap on the hinge side of the stall door??")
     
  9. Ken-1122

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    Kinda hard to do when they start convincing politicians who pass laws to enforce their agenda.
     
  10. Ken-1122

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    What do you mean? Are you saying they disagree with their biology?
     
  11. Tree of Life

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    Yes it is hard to do. That's why your solution is not a good one.
     
  12. eleos1954

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    well maybe just easier to drop the Mister, Miss, Mrs. , ma'am, sir, etc .... and just address everyone as you or person.

    ex ... may I help you
    Do you know that person
    Go talk to that person over there
    The restrooms are over there
     
  13. Ken-1122

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    I never suggested ignoring people. Why is my solution not a good one?
     
  14. Ken-1122

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    Suppose you are trying to describe to the police the person who robbed you?
    It is easier to change how words are defined rather than trying to get rid of words.
     
  15. Tree of Life

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    Unless I've misunderstood you, your solution is precisely to ignore people - ignoring their complaints about not wanting to identify with their biological sex.
     
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  16. eleos1954

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    well ... not sure about that ... there's like 92 or more gender definitions.
     
  17. Tree of Life

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    When people have a gender reassignment surgery, what do you suppose it is that they're changing? They don't undergo a surgery to change perceived societal roles. They undergo surgery in order to artificially "become" a different biological sex.
     
  18. Ken-1122

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    What does it mean to identify with a biological sex? And how does my suggestion prevent people from doing this?
     
  19. eleos1954

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    well in that case it wouldn't matter because you are not addressing the person face to face
     
  20. Ken-1122

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    My suggestion does not prevent people from identifying with various genders, I'm just saying they should assume a stranger is referring to their sex not their gender when addressed, and public facilities is in reference to their sex, not their gender when they wish to use.
     
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