A Parable about Age

[GA777]

yeah,I looked the 1st 2 pages,and all were like "why didnt fsm answer my prayers".There's a difference between someone who answers prayers according to his will,and someone who answers none (because he doesnt exist).

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

nice interpretation you've got here.Better try next time.




You only need to seek from your heart, for a short period,and you'll get to know whom he really is.But you're too good to seek the one who created you of course.

I have used my heart. I trust it beyond all else. My heart told me that the FSM was the only true SM, and if I had faith, and genuinely sought him, he would always be there for me.

 

[Jazer]

The FSM has answered many of my prayers as well, also ranging from life-threatening dire emergencies, to the mundane and trivial. Every good thing that has happened in my life is a direct result of petitioning the FSM. And don't try to tell me it's not true, becuase it's my own personal experience, belief and conviction, and nothing can change it.

What is a FSM?

 

[GA777]

Flying Spaghetti Monster.Some people like frenchy nowadays may believe anything .

here's a wiki link : Flying Spaghetti Monster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

Flying Spaghetti Monster.Some people like frenchy nowadays may believe anything .

here's a wiki link : Flying Spaghetti Monster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have faith, which is all I need. He answers my prayers, and I know deep down in my heart, I would be nothing without him.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

What is a FSM?

He is the one true Spaghetti Monster. And He flys.

 

[quatona]

2 key differences:

1) you assume God insists ion His own way like you might

Not really. When I try to convince people who have doubt about my existence the key is exactly to meet them on their terms.
In fact what I am saying is that god could make himself known if he would not insist on his own way.

2) you have a physical existence.

Do you want me to color god as some kind of handicapped compared to me?
Are you honestly positing that god is uncapable of making his existence known to everyone (despite being all-knowing, and therefore surely knowing what it would take to make the person in question believe in his existence)?


If god is uncapable of making himself known he would be well advised not to expect people to believe in his existence.

 

[Mling]

Not really. When I try to convince people who have doubt about my existence the key is exactly to meet them on their terms.
In fact what I am saying is that god could make himself known if he would not insist on his own way.


Do you want me to color god as some kind of handicapped compared to me?
Are you honestly positing that god is uncapable of making his existence known to everyone (despite being all-knowing, and therefore surely knowing what it would take to make the person in question believe in his existence)?


If god is uncapable of making himself known he would be well advised not to expect people to believe in his existence.

and I would dub it evil to torture people eternally for failing to do so.

 

[quatona]

yeah,I looked the 1st 2 pages,and all were like "why didnt fsm answer my prayers".There's a difference between someone who answers prayers according to his will,and someone who answers none (because he doesnt exist).

The FSM answers all prayers - "yes", "no" or "later".

 

[GA777]

The FSM answers all prayers - "yes", "no" or "later".

He answered yours?

 

[quatona]

He answered yours?

Yup.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

He answered yours?

He definitely answers mine! For instance, when I'm in a rush and looking for a parking spot up close at the grocery store, I pray that one will open up. If not, I park in the back, knowing full well it's the FSM's will for me to walk longer to the grocery store.

 

[Belk]

yeah,I looked the 1st 2 pages,and all were like "why didnt fsm answer my prayers".There's a difference between someone who answers prayers according to his will,and someone who answers none (because he doesnt exist).

And yet when we apply statistics they look exactly the same. Odd that.

 

[Jazer]

He is the one true Spaghetti Monster. And He flys.

O Yeah the God of Gluttony, Ok.

 

[razeontherock]

The FSM has answered many of my prayers as well, also ranging from life-threatening dire emergencies, to the mundane and trivial. Every good thing that has happened in my life is a direct result of petitioning the FSM. And don't try to tell me it's not true, becuase it's my own personal experience, belief and conviction, and nothing can change it.

Frenchy, you really are smarter than this. Please tell me that's true?

 

[razeontherock]

No, we're assuming that a supernatural being capable of creating billions of galaxies, filled with trillions of stars, who supposedly loves us, desires a "personal relationship" with us, it's 'finest creation,' makes itself so hard to find. So much so, that there are literally thousands of different ideas of who "god" is, and most are diametrically opposed to the other. Kind of makes you wonder, if not, it should.

Not at all! The bolded phrase is 100% inaccurate, unless you fall prey to petty bickering.

 

[razeontherock]

People really should look into the FSM. He's never failed to answer my prayers!

Just in case there should be any confusion, this does not count as "testimony." Unless you count bearing false witness. (But Frenchy here really does know better)

 

[razeontherock]

I have faith, which is all I need. He answers my prayers, and I know deep down in my heart, I would be nothing without him.

G-d still, is not mocked. You have heard the word "Nimrod?" You do know what it means?

 

[razeontherock]

Not really. When I try to convince people who have doubt about my existence the key is exactly to meet them on their terms.
In fact what I am saying is that god could make himself known if he would not insist on his own way.


Do you want me to color god as some kind of handicapped compared to me?
Are you honestly positing that god is uncapable of making his existence known to everyone (despite being all-knowing, and therefore surely knowing what it would take to make the person in question believe in his existence)?


If god is uncapable of making himself known he would be well advised not to expect people to believe in his existence.

You assume God is responsible for an individual's lack of Faith. This is false.

 

[sandwiches]

You have yet to bring any example of this, on a situation that has relevance to the discussion at hand. I mention this because it is presented as a given that such contradictions exist - and I find they don't.

I prayed fervently and emotionally. I begged God to show me some sign of his existence. Nothing. So, it's MY experience that prayer had no effect on my life. Is that evidence that prayer has no effect and possibly that God doesn't exist?