5 Questions Evolutionists Can't Answer

[In situ]

I can imagine why, too.
You make snap judgments and convey them as if they were factual.

I kind of have had this "factual" "snap judgment" for the past 25 years so would you mind to explain why it is a snap judgment?

I'd be surprised if I heard you say, "In my opinion..."

In my opinion you are wrong.... besides that, you are not to determine my linguistic style or pass false accusation on me. Just because I do not spell it out as my opinion does not mean it is should be taken as fact - your are clearly fabulating things now. Or perhaps I have been overestimated your cognitive abilities. If so I truly apologize for that....

Take me for instance.

Very seldom do I say something that isn't just my opinion -- and I'll gladly admit it as well.

??

E-scientists, on the other hand, hardly ever say, "In my opinion..."

After all, they need to act like scientists, and scientists need to act like they know what they're saying.

I never claimed or pretend to be a scientist, on the contrary, so where did you got these funny ideas from - are we fabulating again perhaps?

 

[In situ]

Once -- and I'm familiar with the "contradiction."

(Someone doesn't have a Scofield Reference Bible, does he?)

No I don't, but ~25 years ago I spent lots of time thinking about it trying to resolve it, but I wasn't able to. If you have a resolve for it I be happy to learn more about it.

 

[In situ]

You're assuming that he something approaching an ordinary life.

True, but I was also speaking in general terms about fundamentalists beliefs.

 

[In situ]

All comes down to personal psychological needs. We are capable of convincing ourselves of anything, if we have a strong enough psychological need to do so.

Kind of what I thought I tried to say, wasn't it?

 

[In situ]

... YES.

I said it before already, but will repeat it once again; it then follows you are of the opinion these children deserves to die because that is what a justification is about.

 

[In situ]

The question doesn't need evidence to answer.

Q: Is killing children ever justified?
A: Yes, in certain conditions.

And those conditions are?

 

[mark kennedy]

I could come up with better questions to ask without all the creepy music:

1) What molecular machanism changes highly conserved brain related genes?
2) Where are the Chimpanzee ancestors in the fossil record?
3) How much of the Chimpanzee genome is different from humans? Counting indels.
4) What is the most likely effect of a mutation on a protein coding or brain related gene?
5) Same scenerio, what are the odds of a beneficial efffect resulting in a better protein or a better brain related gene.

There are all kinds of things evolutionists can't answer. There are all kinds of things that creationists can't answer. Newsflash guys, there's a lot we don't know.

 

[In situ]

That's right ... it's called "faith."

Fair enough... but then it is fair game to call you dumb, silly, irrational or stubborn as well.

Something you may choose not to exercise; but you'll certainly criticize those who do, won't you?

No I wont, but I will settle myself with concluding that you are just being silly and have nutty opinions about things.. but that is just my opinion about you, which I am entailed to have....

I can "faith your facts,"* can you?**

* Ignore them as necessary.

** That's a legitimate question.

No I cannot because I have committed myself to intellectual honesty.... you my even want to try it yourself one day for a change.

 

[In situ]

I could come up with better questions to ask without all the creepy music:

1) What molecular machanism changes highly conserved brain related genes?
2) Where are the Chimpanzee ancestors in the fossil record?
3) How much of the Chimpanzee genome is different from humans? Counting indels.
4) What is the most likely effect of a mutation on a protein coding or brain related gene?
5) Same scenerio, what are the odds of a beneficial efffect resulting in a better protein or a better brain related gene.

1) Same mechanism that changes other genes
2) Apes living in trees does not makes good fossil records
3) ~95% if I recall right.
4) I would guess no direct measurable effect at all..
5) This is also a measurement problem and we don't know because it hasn't been investigated (read: measured) in the same manner as it has been investigated about decease related mutations (which are quite obvious when they occur). Besides that, it is very hard to measure what effect a subtle difference in folding of, say, a brain related protein might have on the brain - or anywhere else for that sake.

Btw, did you know for instance that there is a brain related gene that if mutated cause retardness but the same gene is also responsible for the relative lengths of the fingers. If I recall right, the relative finger length is part of the diagnostic of this decease.

There are all kinds of things evolutionists can't answer.

Darn, I must had done something wrong then....

There are all kinds of things that creationists can't answer. Newsflash guys, there's a lot we don't know.

True, but there is also a lot of things that we do know, and we do not need to know everything in order to now something. Like we know for sure, and you hate to hear this, human and chimpanzee shares a common ancestor.

 

[AV1611VET]

I said it before already, but will repeat it once again; it then follows you are of the opinion these children deserves to die because that is what a justification is about.

I don't know why you're using the phrase "deserved to die."

That's pretty strong language.

I suspect you're trying to get one of us to admit it, so it can be used against us in the future.

But I'll bite:

Those children [deserved to die] in the same way children aboard American Airlines Flight 11 would have [deserved to die] had you taken the initiative to shoot it down before it hit the North tower.

 

[AV1611VET]

And those conditions are?

By way of example: American Airlines Flight 11.

 

[AV1611VET]

No I cannot because I have committed myself to intellectual honesty.... you my even want to try it yourself one day for a change.

Is this the brand of intellectual honesty that works in conjunction with the Arab phone and calling the Jews "ignorant, Bronze Age, goat herders"?

If so, I want no part of it.

 

[TLK Valentine]

And those conditions are?

either
A: God says so, or
B: You're positive He'll forgive you for it after the fact.

 

[Split Rock]

By way of example: American Airlines Flight 11.

Why do you keep bringing up American Airlines Flight 11? That plane was hijacked by theists doing the will of their god. You know.. fighting "the good fight" against infidels.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Why do you keep bringing up American Airlines Flight 11? That plane was hijacked by theists doing the will of their god. You know.. fighting "the good fight" against infidels.

And taking that one step further, the hijackers thought the people they were killing in the twin towers deserved to die for rejecting their god and they were entirely justified in killing them as it was their god's command - sort of reminds me of some of the posts being made in this thread.

Fundies, eh? They're all cut from the same cloth.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why do you keep bringing up American Airlines Flight 11? That plane was hijacked by theists doing the will of their god. You know.. fighting "the good fight" against infidels.

Would you have shot it down if you had the chance to legitimately do so?

 

[AV1611VET]

And taking that one step further, the hijackers thought the people they were killing in the twin towers deserved to die for rejecting their god and they were entirely justified in killing them as it was their god's command - sort of reminds me of some of the posts being made in this thread.

Fundies, eh? They're all cut from the same cloth.

So you would shoot it down then?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

So you would shoot it down then?

I answered that question 2 days ago. I had to remind you yesterday that I answered it the day before when you asked me again. Presumably you have erased it from your memory so here it is again to remind you:

Me personally? I don't know, but I'll say yes just for the sake of argument. Now, the problem with your analogy is not just that you are assuming your god is not omnipotent (another contradiction) and is therefore incapable of any solution except mass murder, and nor is it that your sideways trip into moral relativism destroys any claims of moral absolutism, which in turn shoots your whole belief system in the foot, but never mind, no the problem with your analogy is that it assumes your god kills so many people (tens of millions) in the Bible for comparable reasons as you present in your analogy. But if one actually looks at the justifications given in the Bible for your god's mass murder sprees, as well as his countless random gratuitous murders, they aren't even remotely close to being comparable. In fact, time and again, they are just the unjustifiable actions of the fictional character described in the Dawkins quote.

 

[AV1611VET]

I answered that question 2 days ago.

Fair enough.

So it's okay for you to shoot down American Airlines Flight 11, but it's not okay for God to order the shooting down of its equivalent?

 

[BarryDesborough]

Fair enough.

So it's okay for you to shoot down American Airlines Flight 11, but it's not okay for God to order the shooting down of its equivalent?

What's this got to do with creation and evolution?