5 Questions Evolutionists Can't Answer

[toolmanjantzi]

Would "willfully ignorant" be someone who wears their ignorance like a badge?

No someone who stinks up the Lou, and claims it smells like roses.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Tool, bible prophecies have all been debunked with logic. Even the most prominent christian apologists don't use prophecies when debating atheists, because they know there is nothing to them.

The apologist job is not to prove the existence of God by evidence; but to share the gospel in light of the evidence of Gods word that says the heart of man is evil, how will they come unless they hear, how will they hear unless one is sent.

All men are without excuse.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

I do my best, to follow logic and reason, so I end up following the truth.

Logic says morality could only come from God. Reason says God has every right to demand morality from His creation.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

The Bible warns you to stay away from credible people?

Who accredited them?

 

[rikerjoe]

Example of this in science are Laws. If I told you a mother had 46 chromosomes and the father had 46 chromosomes it would easily be argued if I said the child had 92 chromosomes.

Only if you wanted to show your ignorance regarding chromosomes.

My math is correct 46+46=92; except science has shown the child would have 23 of the fathers and 23 of the mothers and would have 46 chromosomes.

Just because math says 46+46=92 it has nothing to do with chromosomes. You can't apply one field (math) to another that does not follow its laws (biology) so your math is irrelevant.

When it comes to the flood; I can show both a local and global flood. Local meaning it covered the land that was inhabited. Global meaning when the waters reached the shore lines of the continent of that time; water covered the whole globe making it actually Global. But no one at that time would be aware of any other continents or islands.

Congratulations, you have just proven that the bible was not written by God, but a human with limited knowledge.

The real problem is when YOU, go looking for the evidence of a flood and base all understanding of local floods and compare it to a global flood.

And why wouldn't I? It says Global flood. You claim that God is all knowing and he wrote it, so why shouldn't I assume he was NOT limited by the knowledge at that time and search for an actual global flood?

 

[AV1611VET]

My burden has been lifted, by the death and Ressurection of Christ. You still carry yours, unfortunately.

WOW! That was well-stated!

 

[Mikecpking]

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. (Matthew 7:5 KJV)

I am more then sure KW has casted her beam out and can see clearly the motes in her brother's eye. Therefore her Judgement can be seasoned with mercy and love.

How about you?

Did you not judge her judgement?

Did you see what KW posted before? To me, he was questioning my salvation. one does not do that with someone in the same faith even though I have a different point of view and was uncalled for.

Here was the post I reacted to:

Originally Posted by bhsmte

I hate to break it to you, but a high percentage of folks who claim they are christian, believe the following; evolution is true, noah story is a myth, miracles likely never happened and the bible is loaded with contradictions, errors and is not historically reliable.
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How sad for them.
John 1: 9-11

Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.

Matthew 7: 21-23

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Proverbs 3: 5-7
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil.

It is very clear that God not only desires, but expects that we have faith in His word.

2 Tomothy 3: 16-17

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

Now, do you understand?

 

[BarryDesborough]

WOW! That was well-stated!

I think ignorance is a terrible burden. Deliberate ignorance even more so.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think ignorance is a terrible burden. Deliberate ignorance even more so.

Eyes barn ignit, eyes die ignit.

 

[Freodin]

Eyes barn ignit, eyes die ignit.

WOW! That was well-stated!

Something to proudly tell your deity, if you will ever happen to meet him.

 

[KWCrazy]

Judge and ye shall be judged.
You are on dangerous ground.

How, by quoting Sritpture?
Do you even know the meaning of Luke 6:37?
We are called to spread the truth of the word of God, not to repeat the lies of evolution.

 

[KWCrazy]

Tool, bible prophecies have all been debunked with logic. Even the most prominent christian apologists don't use prophecies when debating atheists, because they know there is nothing to them.

Nothing that is written has ever been debunked, so your statement is a lie.

Approximately 2500 prophecies appear in the pages of the Bible, about 2000 of which already have been fulfilled to the letter—no errors.
(The remaining 500 or so reach into the future and may be seen unfolding as days go by.) Since the probability for any one of these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance averages less than one in ten (figured very conservatively) and since the prophecies are for the most part independent of one another, the odds for all these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance without error is less than one in 102000 (that is 1 with 2000 zeros written after it)!

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You need to get out more. You're listenting to the wrong people.

 

[KWCrazy]

I do my best, to follow logic and reason, so I end up following the truth.

Since you follow your own interpretation of logic and reason, you're chaising your own tail; not the truth.

 

[Mikecpking]

How, by quoting Sritpture?
Do you even know the meaning of Luke 6:37?
We are called to spread the truth of the word of God, not to repeat the lies of evolution.

Why do you keep bringing up this phrase 'lies of evolution'? The truth to the majority of Christians who are not YEC is that God created.

You posted some verses that suggests any Christian who did not think your way would somehow be deprived of eternal life. It is not upto you to judge that, but upto God.

Why can't you give God credit for a wonderful universe, with all its physical laws, wonder and beauty and science for finding out HOW he did it? There need not be any argument at all.

 

[KWCrazy]

Now, do you understand?

I think we understand.
"folks who claim they are christian, believe the following..."
In the first place, you statement is written in the third party, not as a statement of your personal beliefs.

In the scond place, Christian means "of Christ." How can one truly be of Christ when they believe contrary to the Scriptures, which Christ revered and acknowledge as the word of God? You can't simultaneouls believe that it is raining and not raining outside. You can't claim to believe in the Bible and yet disbelieve every other word of it. When you tell others that the Bible is false you become a false teacher. False teachers are the enemies of truth. Christ's followers are not His enemies.

What did Jeus believe about the flood? He said, "For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." Apparently, if the flood is a myth then it certainly fooled the son of God; who witnessed it.

All the events that you mention in your post were witnesses by Christ and are denied by "folks who claim they are christian." Your words, not mine. I haven't seen you yet count yourself among those making such a claim. I do know that you are teaching contrary to what is written, and false treachers are mentioned many times in the bible.

Regardless of what some "folks who claim they are christian" believe, the Bible is the word of God. God does not command consensus, he commands us to have faith.

 

[KWCrazy]

Why do you keep bringing up this phrase 'lies of evolution'? The truth to the majority of Christians who are not YEC is that God created.

Truth is not determined by vote, but by God's authority.

You posted some verses that suggests any Christian who did not think your way would somehow be deprived of eternal life.

I posted what the Bible states. Your own faith or lack of it is between you and God. When you post lies about what the Bible actually says I will call you on it and point out the falseness of what you claim.

Why can't you give God credit for a wonderful universe, with all its physical laws, wonder and beauty and science for finding out HOW he did it?

Why can't you believe in the word of God; even when those words are written by God Himself on stone tablets and incorporated into the ten greatest commandments of mankind?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Truth is not determined by vote, but by God's authority.

And God has shown His authority through His actions. Alas, He didn't consult you beforehand.

I posted what the Bible states.

Any reason you didn't post what God has done?

Why can't you believe in the word of God; even when those words are written by God Himself on stone tablets and incorporated into the ten greatest commandments of mankind?

Last I checked, none of those Commandments was "Thou shalt not believe we evolved."

So unless you're adding in an 11th (not so great) Commandment, there's no problem.

 

[Mikecpking]

I think we understand.
"folks who claim they are christian, believe the following..."

Same difference. I believe evolution is a fact. I also have studied geology at college level with field work experience and I breed carnivorous lants for a hobby so I know quite a lot aboutselective breeding. But 'belief' in a fact will not exclude me from eternal life.

In the first place, you statement is written in the third party, not as a statement of your personal beliefs.

In the scond place, Christian means "of Christ." How can one truly be of Christ when they believe contrary to the Scriptures, which Christ revered and acknowledge as the word of God? You can't simultaneouls believe that it is raining and not raining outside. You can't claim to believe in the Bible and yet disbelieve every other word of it. When you tell others that the Bible is false you become a false teacher. False teachers are the enemies of truth. Christ's followers are not His enemies.

What did Jeus believe about the flood? He said, "For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." Apparently, if the flood is a myth then it certainly fooled the son of God; who witnessed it.

All the events that you mention in your post were witnesses by Christ and are denied by "folks who claim they are christian." Your words, not mine. I haven't seen you yet count yourself among those making such a claim. I do know that you are teaching contrary to what is written, and false treachers are mentioned many times in the bible.

Regardless of what some "folks who claim they are christian" believe, the Bible is the word of God. God does not command consensus, he commands us to have faith.

The bible is inspired by God, not dictated. Noah's flood in the light of the end of the last ice age when sea levels rose up and ice locked lakes broke through with rapid climate change explains why flood stories are accross the globe. The story of Noah is coming from the epic of Gilgamesh, I quote from Wikipedia:

Relationship to the Bible[edit]

Further information: Panbabylonism
Various themes, plot elements, and characters in the Epic of Gilgamesh have counterparts in the book of Genesis, notably in the stories of the Garden of Eden and Noah's Flood.
The parallels between the stories of Enkidu/Shamhat and Adam/Eve have been long recognized by scholars.[16] In both, a man is created from the soil by a god, and lives in a natural setting amongst the animals. He is introduced to a woman who tempts him. In both stories the man accepts food from the woman, covers his nakedness, and must leave his former realm, unable to return. The presence of a snake that steals a plant of immortality from the hero later in the epic is another point of similarity.
Andrew R. George submits that the flood story in Genesis 6–8 matches the Gilgamesh flood myth so closely, "few doubt" that it derives from a Mesopotamian account.[17] What is particularly noticeable is the way the Genesis flood story follows the Gilgamesh flood tale "point by point and in the same order", even when the story permits other alternatives.[18]
In a 2001 Torah commentary released on behalf of the Conservative Movement of Judaism, rabbinic scholar Robert Wexler stated: "The most likely assumption we can make is that both Genesis and Gilgamesh drew their material from a common tradition about the flood that existed in Mesopotamia. These stories then diverged in the retelling."[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh

The Noah's ark story fits in nicely with with the end of the last ice age, so it has its basis in fact.

 

[Mikecpking]

Truth is not determined by vote, but by God's authority.

Who said anything about voting? Who is your God? The bible (subject to your interpretation of it) or God himself?

I posted what the Bible states. Your own faith or lack of it is between you and God. When you post lies about what the Bible actually says I will call you on it and point out the falseness of what you claim.

You are breaking the 9th commandment. Careful with your insults. God gave me a mind to think with and not deny reality. Would God deceive us in the fossil record? No. Your view is the one that needs to change to embrace reality.

Why can't you believe in the word of God; even when those words are written by God Himself on stone tablets and incorporated into the ten greatest commandments of mankind?

The 10 commandments on the stone tablets reads nothing about evolution, or any any other branch of science. You could look at commandment no. 2 for yourself.

Now, answer the question you avoided. Did God literally place the people of Israel on the wings of eagles to escape from Egypt?

 

[Loudmouth]

In the scond place, Christian means "of Christ." How can one truly be of Christ when they believe contrary to the Scriptures,

Does Christian mean "Of Scriptures"?