3 1/2 years...

[seventysevens]

Ninevah was destroyed 612 BC , then the new capital Harran captured in 609 BC. This marks the switch-point from Assyrian to Babylonian supremacy. Babylon was destroyed in October 539 BC so the accuracy is in months and that is pretty good, don't you agree?

But my point here is that Old Testament prophecy is fulfilled in literal years as we know them - not 'make believe' 360-day years. That theory has been
debunked.

Just because you don't agree does not by any means prove anything is debunked, saying some prophecy is close when averaged out does not make a 365 day calculation accurate , much like the weatherman saying it will be partly sunny or partly cloudy with a chance of rain

 

[BABerean2]

Just because you don't agree does not by any means prove anything is debunked, saying some prophecy is close when averaged out does not make a 365 day calculation accurate , much like the weatherman saying it will be partly sunny or partly cloudy with a chance of rain

The work of many modern Dispensational scholars is based upon what was written in "The Coming Prince", by Sir Robert Anderson, who just happened to be C.I. Scofield's friend.

Anderson used a 360 day calendar.
In the book he made reference to the periodic corrections that the Hebrews made in the calendar, and then ignored those corrections in the rest of the book.

If not corrected on a regular basis, an error of 5.25 days per year produces an error of about 6 months in about 35 years.
This error would reverse the planting and growing seasons.

Therefore, we know the ancient calendar was much more than a 360 day calendar.

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[Douggg]

The work of many modern Dispensational scholars is based upon what was written in "The Coming Prince", by Sir Robert Anderson, who just happened to be C.I. Scofield's friend.

Anderson used a 360 day calendar.
In the book he made reference to the periodic corrections that the Hebrews made in the calendar, and then ignored those corrections in the rest of the book.

If not corrected on a regular basis, an error of 5.25 days per year produces an error of about 6 months in about 35 years.
This error would reverse the planting and growing seasons.

Therefore, we know the ancient calendar was much more than a 360 day calendar.

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BaB2, the 360 day year use in bible prophecy makes it possible to understand how the events fit together. Otherwise, we could never figure it out if 365.25 days were used.

If a person tries to make an exact prediction day on the calendar, such as, 5 July 2022 (arbitrary), it can't be done. It is not intended to be for that purpose.

The timeframes are to be used to put together the flow chart of events. Not for predicting dates on a calendar.

 

[BABerean2]

BaB2, the 360 day year use in bible prophecy makes it possible to understand how the events fit together. Otherwise, we could never figure it out if 365.25 days were used.

If a person tries to make an exact prediction day on the calendar, such as, 5 July 2022 (arbitrary), it can't be done. It is not intended to be for that purpose.

The timeframes are to be used to put together the flow chart of events. Not for predicting dates on a calendar.

Plant corn during the winter and see how much food you get out of it...

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[Douggg]

Plant corn during the winter and see how much food you get out of it...

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Your snippet makes no sense. There are 5 days difference in a year for 360 day/year and the 365 day/year. If you want to plant corn by the book, go buy a farmer's almanac - which goes by the moon as well.

Since you seem to be interested in farming/gardening and not understanding bible prophecy, here is a link that should help you with your corn crop.

Farmers' Almanac Gardening Calendar

There is probably a forum here at this site for those who have a farming/gardening interest. If not you can go to the suggest new forums - and see if they will start one for you.

 

[keras]

The work of many modern Dispensational scholars is based upon what was written in "The Coming Prince", by Sir Robert Anderson, who just happened to be C.I. Scofield's friend.

Anderson used a 360 day calendar.
In the book he made reference to the periodic corrections that the Hebrews made in the calendar, and then ignored those corrections in the rest of the book.

If not corrected on a regular basis, an error of 5.25 days per year produces an error of about 6 months in about 35 years.
This error would reverse the planting and growing seasons.

Therefore, we know the ancient calendar was much more than a 360 day calendar..

The simple fact is that the earth takes 365.24 days to orbit the sun.
But from ancient sources, it seems that there was originally a 360 day year. And from the Books of Daniel and Revelation, we will revert to it again, there is no other way to accurately reconcile the 3 different ways of describing the last half of the last 7 years of this Church era.

Sir Robert Anderson, Archbishop Ussher, Tim LaHaye, you name them; they were all wrong in their attempts to sort out the last days time line.
Why is that? Because Daniel 12:9 says: the Words are to be kept secret until the time of the end.
Obviously because they did not live in the 'time of the end'.

 

[keras]

Here is an interesting proposition:

When was the year 360 days long?
In order for the year to be 360 days long the day has to be longer than it is now in the ratio 365.2421897/360 = 1.01456164:1 = 1.456164% larger. In other words rather than being 24 hours long it would be around 24.35 hours long. How could this have been the case? Well when an ice skater spreads her arms out she rotates more slowly and when she draws them in she rotates more quickly. If the earth spread out a bit and got fatter at the equator and flatter from pole to pole (as if someone was treading on a basketball) then it would rotate more slowly and so the day would last longer. But the earth is actually fat at the equator and squashed at the pole due to centrifugal force and the liquid nature of the earth under its crust. So if the planet were hotter then it would be more liquid and so the centrifugal force arising from its rotation would cause it to expand and be fatter at the equator. Now before the flood this was the case. The flood dumped a load of water from the atmosphere onto the crust of the earth which would have cooled the earth down and therefore stiffened it up and reduced the bulging effect of centrifugal force. So we propose that prior to the flood the circumference of the earth was larger than it is today.

A geographical mile (which is the distance on the equator traced out by one second of arc which is one 60th of a minute of arc which is one 60th of a degree of arc which is on 360th of a circle) would in fact be almost precisely 6,000 feet long rather than the present 6,087.253 feet long if the earth was indeed 1.456164% larger in circumference and therefore the day was 24.35 hours long and the year had 360 days in it. This is because 6,087.253 is 1.45421% larger that 6,000.

This all works because the circumference of the earth is linearly related to the period of its rotation around its axis for small variations from the present 24 hour day period in order that angular momentum is preserved. For if we keep the velocity of its surface the same then for small variations in day length we preserve angular momentum which is the integral of mass x velocity for each particle of the planet. So to increase the day by 1.456164% we increase the circumference of the earth by the same amount.

So we propose that the flood waters cooled the surface of the planet down by such an amount that it stiffened up to such an extent that the centrifugal force of its own rotation caused it to bulge by 1.45% less. Hence it spun 1.45% faster. Hence the days became 1.45% shorter. Hence the year contained 1.45% more days. It increased from 360 days to the present 365.2421897.

Get your head around this!
I think it will be a massive hit onto the earth by an explosion of the suns surface, sending a multi billion ton mass, that will strike the earth a glancing blow; either speeding up our orbit, or slightly lengthening the day. Take your pick!

 

[Douggg]

The simple fact is that the earth takes 365.24 days to orbit the sun.
But from ancient sources, it seems that there was originally a 360 day year. And from the Books of Daniel and Revelation, we will revert to it again, there is no other way to accurately reconcile the 3 different ways of describing the last half of the last 7 years of this Church era.

It is not three different ways of describing the last half of the 7 years, of Daniel 9.

The 1260 days is the first half. Then the 42 months of beast rule, without being impeded by two witnesses, in the second half. And Satan being cast down to earth having a time, times, half times in the second half.

Sir Robert Anderson, Archbishop Ussher, Tim LaHaye, you name them; they were all wrong in their attempts to sort out the last days time line.

And did not they all use the term three and a half years like you do -when it is not in the bible stated as three and a half years (your recent
REB interpretation bible the exception)?

And Keras, do not them who argue Jesus is the one confirming the covenant in Daniel 9:27 is a 3 1/2 year period, when no 3 1/2 years term is stated in the bible?

There is not a reason for it to be 42 months in one verse and 1260 days in the very next verse - if there was not a reason for it being stated differently.

 

[keras]

It is not three different ways of describing the last half of the 7 years, of Daniel 9.

Your unsupported opinion.
All the 3 ways of giving the 'time times and half a time', refer to the same period; the last half of Daniels 70th 'week'.
The first half isn't mentioned anywhere, because that time will be a peaceful one, as the peace treaty is kept.

You and many other Christians, deny the possibility of a worldwide catastrophe, but the Prophetic Word is full of it. Putting your head in the sand is for ostriches, not informed Christians.

 

[BABerean2]

Your snippet makes no sense. There are 5 days difference in a year for 360 day/year and the 365 day/year.

Your math is wrong.

The difference is closer to 5.25 days.
That quarter of a day is significant over time.

5.25 days/ per year error x 35 years = 183.75 days

Therefore, in only 35 years the error would be about one half of a year.
This means the seasons would be reversed, which would effect the growing season.

Hopefully, this will make sense to you now.

P.S., I have grown corn in the past.

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[BABerean2]

All the 3 ways of giving the 'time times and half a time', refer to the same period; the last half of Daniels 70th 'week'.

Based on Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken "first" to Daniel's people, before Paul began his ministry to the Gentiles.

In Acts of the Apostles 2:36 Peter addressed the crowd on the Day of Pentecost as "all the house of Israel". On that day about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34. During the first few years of the Church almost all of its members were Israelites.

The only way to see the 70th week of Daniel is in a time machine set to return you to the first century.

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[Douggg]

The first half isn't mentioned anywhere, because that time will be a peaceful one, as the peace treaty is kept.

The first half is the 1260 days that the two witnesses are prophesying what is going to happen regarding the thought-to-be messiah that the Jews have embraced - and who will have been anointed the King of Israel (illegitimate) making him the Antichrist.

It will be the reason the peace and safety they will be saying in 1Thessalonians5.

Near the end of their prophesying against him, warning the Jews - he does what they will have been warning about - and will have become the beast and the image of him made (to be setup on day 1185 of the 7 years), which the Jews flee to the mountains, as the two witnesses battle the beast in Revelation 11.

The 7 years are in Revelation 12. The 1260 days of the two witnesses is the 1260 days of Revelation 12, during which the woman Israel has fled into the wilderness.

The seventh trumpet blows in Revelation 11, triggering the war in heaven in Revelation 12 following the 1260 days first half there. Satan is cast down the time, times, half times left within the second half - but not exactly 42 months, nor exactly 1260 days. Which is why it is expressed as neither.

On the lead in to the 7 years in Revelation 12, the 7 heads have their crowns, indicating right before the 7 years begin - the prophecy of the 7 kings in Revelation 17:10 will have been completed with the 7th king (Julio-Claudian) of the Roman Empire is in place the little horn.

As I have mentioned before in several recent threads, the person is on two tracks...

1. Of becoming the King of Israel (illegitimate) - the Antichrist.
2. Of becoming the King of the Roman Empire - 7th and 8th king - that is, the little horn, then the beast.

In Revelation 6, as the rider on the white horse (messiah figure), he is given a crown - given a crown because the Jews embrace him as the messiah and he is anointed the King of Israel by the false prophet, making him the Antichrist - for about 3years 4 months, until he commits the transgression of desolation act of 2Thessalonian2:3-4, triggering the Day of the Lord.

The confirming of the covenant for 7 years, the person begins as the Antichrist - King of Israel (illegitimate) are right in the bible in Deuteronomy 31:9-13, as a requirement Moses made of all future generations of leaders of Israel.

 

[Douggg]

Your math is wrong.

The difference is closer to 5.25 days.
That quarter of a day is significant over time.

BAB2, sheesh you are straining at a gnat.

I was making the comparison between the 360 days and the 365 day calendar we go by - which has 366 days every 4 years.

The issue has no bearing on planting corn because that is not what the 1260 days, the 42 months, the time, times, half times, the 3 1/2 days in Revelation and Daniel are about.

Therefore, in only 35 years the error would be about one half of a year.

This means the seasons would be reversed, which would effect the growing season.

Hopefully, this will make sense to you now.

We are not dealing with 35 years, but 7 years, the last week of Daniel 9. We are not dealing with planting crops. The concern is understanding bible prophecy.

 

[BABerean2]

We are not dealing with 35 years, but 7 years, the last week of Daniel 9.

You are not dealing with the last week of Daniel 9.
You are ignoring the last week of Daniel 9.

Based on Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken "first" to Daniel's people for a period of about 7 years before Paul began his ministry to the Gentiles.

Most Bible scholars believe the earthly ministry of Christ was about 3 1/2 years.

There was some period of time between the Day of Pentecost and Paul's conversion.

Based on Galatians 1:14-18, Paul did not begin his ministry to the Gentiles until after a period of about 3 years.

Do the math.


The scriptural reference beside of Daniel 9:27 in my NKJV Bible is Matthew 26:28.

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[Douggg]

Most Bible scholars believe the earthly ministry of Christ was about 3 1/2 years.

The notion of 3 1/2 years is quite popular. But the expression is not found in the Bible. That is what I was communicating to Keras.

If you want to understand the bible prophecies, take the timeframes in Daniel and integrate them with the timeframes in Revelation and put together a flow chart of events.

Instead, what you are doing BaB2, is taking the prophecies and attempting to justify your New Covenant theology doctrine that the church has become Israel.

 

[TribulationSigns]

We are not dealing with 35 years, but 7 years, the last week of Daniel 9. We are not dealing with planting crops. The concern is understanding bible prophecy.

Frankly, I do not believe you understand the one week (seven) of Daniel 9:27. You were indoctrinated by speculations by the false prophets.

Isaiah 40:1

• Comfort ye, comfort ye My people, saith your God. Speak ye comfortably to JERUSALEM, and cry unto her, that her WARFARE is accomplished, and that her INIQUITY is pardoned: for she HATH RECEIVED DOUBLE for all her sins.

When we study this chapter carefully, we see that this speaks of the coming of Christ and what He did for Israel by the cross, 'not' of a (supposed) future event. Covenant Israel, not to be confused with national Israel. That's another important fact. Jerusalem was Judged, and she was at war, but that warfare ends with the death of Christ (for those truly Saved), and the rebuilding of the tabernacle in Him. The time for the Salvation of Israel is not future, but now! Her warfare is accomplished. She has been reconciled to God. Not Literal Jerusalem, or a Literal city like you believe! There is no way we can conclude that verse is talking about a literal city or literal warfare ending? The Time for Israel to be Saved is right now, just like the rest of the nations. Because the Israel in view, is 'The Israel of God' made up of all those in Christ who is also Daniel's people. Covenant Israel! We are all comforted in the rebuilding of 'that' Jerusalem, and 'that' Sanctuary. Not a City in the Middle East, nor a collection of literal bricks and mortar in a Temple made by Man's hands. Selah! The Rebuilding is in Christ who is a TEMPLE made without hands! And Blessed are they who were bestowed Grace to be able to see these truths.

Daniel 9:27​

• And He shall confirm the Covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations He shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The "He" in context is Jesus the Messiah the Prince! Not some evil prince. Consider wisely, what is this one week (seven) that follows the cutting off of Messiah (after the 62 weeks or sevens). There has been a lot of speculation and guessing of what this means. We've heard everything from 7 years to 70 years. The reason that we have all these different ideas about this final week, is because people are not letting the scripture interpret this week. They are doing a lot of assuming, and their studies dripping with speculation of when, how, and by whom this Covenant is confirmed. For we 'must' let the Bible itself tell us what it means. As Righteous Joseph said when asked his interpretation, "..Do not Interpretations belong to God?" He was right! And God speaks to us today through His word, not speculation! Let's look within His Holy Word and see what God declares.

There is a simple way to determine what period this is. We know From the context (after the 62 weeks) that it starts after the cross, after Messiah the Prince is 'Cut Off.' And we know that this Prince Confirms [gabar], a Hebrew word which actually means Strengthened, the Covenant after these 62 weeks. Therefore, the week cannot start until Christ is cut off first! Moreover, we know that in the middle of this final week, the sacrifice and offering will cease by Him, and that at the end of this last week, is the consummation. This much is clearly told us in the verse. And so God has told us that this week is from the cross (after 62 weeks when Messiah is cut off), and goes all the way from there, to the Consummation (the End of the World). And so what need is there to speculate, see? On several levels, we see that it signifies the New Covenant week. In fact, the only reason anyone would speculate differently would be if they didn't understand HOW the sacrifice and offering cease in the midst of the week. Many people believe this refers to the 'literal' sacrifice of lambs in the literal temple, and so they are confused by a New Covenant week, with sacrifice ceasing, after the cross.

But this truth is confirmed again in Daniel chapter 12, as it talks about the last half of this new Covenant week as "Time, Times and one half" (3-1/2), a time of Trouble for God's people, and when the taking away of the daily or continual sacrifice would occur.

Daniel 12:5-6​

• ...How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
• And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up His right hand and His left hand unto the heaven, and SWARE by Him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and WHEN He shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the Holy People, All these things shall be finished.

Daniel 12:11-12

• And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
• Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

This is when the daily or 'continual' shall be taken away. In the midst of the week. And it's not at the Cross as some people think, it's just before the Abomination of desolation. It's when the candlesticks are killed after the testimony of the two witnesses is finished (Rev. 11). It is when He who restrains iniquity is taken out of the midst (2nd Thess 2). Only AFTER all are sealed who are to be sealed (Rev. 7). In simple terms, it is after the fulness of the Gentiles be coming into Covenant Isarel, and so, all Israel is saved or sealed. Then and only then is a final devastating judgment brought upon the unfaithful Church, a great departing from the faith (1st Timothy 4:1) where there is Apostasy and remaineth no sacrifice for sin. For example, ALL Israel has been Saved, and no one else remains to be Saved. And if this time of tribulation is not shortened, because no one else is being saved, there would no saved flesh left on earth. But for the sake of the Elect, these days shall be shortened so that God will have some of them who are "alive and remain" to be raptured to be fulfill the prophecy.

The first half of this final week is the time, times and a half that we read about in Revelation 12. The Woman there gave birth to the Man Child (Christ) and she spent Time, Times and 1/2 (3 1/2) fed and nourished with GOSPEL under the wings (Protection) of God, away from the face of the serpent. This is the first half of the week which is 1,260 days. It means that the Holy People are protected from the Serpent and fed with Gospel until the time their testimony for salvation is finished. Then at that time is the second half of the week. This is the midst (middle) when the other half of the week, the time, times, and 1/2 that is spoken of in Daniel 12 takes place. It's a time of great trial which God says 'will not end' until the power of the Holy People has been scattered, Daniel 12:7. The power of the Holy People is the salvation gospel. They no longer offer salvation because their testimony is finished, remember? Then the End will come. The end is the consummation which is Second Coming. That's the end of the last week of Daniel chapter 9. This is "exactly" what 2nd Thessalonians 2 says. The end will not come until there come an apostasy first, and the Holy Temple (Church) will have abomination seated in it. That's the scattering of the Power of the Holy People spoken about in Daniel. Nothing comes out consistently inconsistent like all these other ideas about this last week. But here we have total consistency with everything else that is written about these things. That's because it's true. We must seek to understand God's Word correctly. It's when we go from one verse to another and there is contradiction (as with many other theories) that we know we know we have the wrong interpretation. Let's look at a little sketch to perhaps put things into focus a little..

This week is not literally 7 years that the New Covenant is confirmed by Christ, but the whole New Covenant period from the Cross to the Consummation! The building of Christ's church takes time! This also celebrates the week of the Feast of Tabernacles. Please study the Feast of Tabernacles here.

Take note, there is only one place in Scripture. The 'only one' place in the whole Bible that speaks of a Prince being cut off, and then the Covenant being confirmed, and that one place speaks about Christ.

{contiune to next post}

 

[TribulationSigns]

{Contiuned from previous post}

As stated, that word in Daniel 9 translated confirm in the KJV is [gabar], which 'is' the word strengthen. How was the Covenant made strong or Confirmed? It was confirmed by Christ going to the cross to put the muscle behind the Word promising Israel an inheritance. It is like a will. People need to die first in order the will be strengthened. This is the covenant Christ confirmed with His death and Blood so that the body of Christ are the ones whom will receive the promise of the Covenant with Israel of God! Not Antichrist and so-called 7 years peace treaty with national Israel at all! According to Scripture, if you know how to compare it with Scripture:

Galatians 3:17​

• And this I say, that the COVENANT, that was CONFIRMED before of God IN CHRIST, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

The Covenant was Confirmed "IN CHRIST" and is not made of non effect by the law. Not your Antichrist! The covenant of Daniel 9:27 is all about THE PROMISE was before the law. This is the Covenant being confirmed [prokauroo] (made authoritative) by Christ's death on the cross cannot be disannuled. Christ is its STRENGTH! His Death made it AUTHORITATIVE! And So we see the confirmation of The Prince/Leader (Christ) to make this Covenant strong and authoritative and it took place at the Cross! This is what Christ did, not anti-Christ, period, Douggg! Antichrist NEVER, NEVER, ever strengthens a Covenant... with a pen, at least not according to scripture! All rhetoric aside, the only one who the Bible (not I) says 'confirmed' any Covenant is the Messiah. And the only one who the Bible (not I) says 'strengthened' a Covenant is Messiah. So who are we going to believe? Theologians, teachers, or the Bible? The New Covenant is the Covenant made strong in Christ's Blood and it made with His people, who is Daniel's people! Not the Jews only! But all the Elect in Christ from Old and New Testament! Selah! So Christ, as God Himself, gave it its strength on behalf of His people, Israel! Have you never read in Hebrews of HOW the New Testament (exact same word Covenant) was of 'no force' while the covenantor was still alive? Did the covenant become a force when Christ was baptized? Did the Covenant become a force when Christ was preaching Gospel? NO! The covenant become a force WHEN Christ was "CUT OFF" which is HOW He had made it strengthened! Just like any will of man! This is what is in view in Daniel 9 prophesying Messiah strengthening the Covenant for many for one week. Listen carefully:

Hebrews 9:16​

• For where a covenant is, there must also of necessity be the death of the covenantor. For a Covenant is of FORCE after men are dead: otherwise it is of no Strength at all while the covenantor liveth.

See? That is the Word of the Living God telling us that the New Covenant had no strength until Christ need to go to the Cross and died first! For our sins! And then was it made strong! Christ Confirmed or made strong the Covenant for many in His blood. Again, the Covenant is like a will. It's a promise or agreement to hand over an inheritance to Israel. "Covenant" Israel! The Messiah had to die in order for His people to receive the inheritance in that will. This He did at the cross. He confirmed the Covenant with many (NOT ALL and EVERY MEN on Earth, but HIS PEOPLE redeemed from among men!) for this one week. Again, logically and Biblically we see that this also proves that the length of the week is from the cross, to the end, because that is the time of the confirmed or strengthened Covenant with Messiah. Jesus Christ is the ONLY Covenant confirmed or strengthened by ANYONE in scripture. Not Man of Sin. The only one where we see this language used. The will Confirmed at the cross, the inheritance received at the end for His people. The New Covenant with Israel that Messiah/Christ confirmed. The New Covenant, New Testament Church, or Covenant Israel. They are the same. But don't take my word for it. Read Hebrews chapter 8 and 9 carefully, and God makes that abundantly clear. Speaking of the New Testament with relationship to the old Testament, God says:

Hebrews 8:9​

• For finding fault with them, (the old Covenant) He saith, behold, the days come saith the Lord, when I will make a New Covenant with the house of ISRAEL and with the house of Judah:

Hebrews Chapter 8 and 9 make it clear the New Covenant with Israel and Judah which is spiritually the New Covenant Church. I ask no one to accept my words, study these two chapters yourself. This is the Covenant confirmed, made authoritative, strengthened in Christ. And these chapters show the New Covenant is strengthened in Christ's blood for the Israel of God!

 

[Douggg]

The Time for Israel to be Saved is right now, just like the rest of the nations.

For individuals, today is the day of salvation.

But for the nations and Israel, there is a set time of events that are to take place - and it has to do with God taking the dominion that Satan's invisible kingdom of Babylon the Great has over the world. And making Satan a terror no more.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Based on Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken "first" to Daniel's people for a period of about 7 years before Paul began his ministry to the Gentiles.

Not quite accurate. First, you got Daniel's people wrong. It is not strictly ethnic Jews. We, Christians, are also Daniel's people according to Christ. Therefore the final week of Daniel 9:27 within the context was not strictly for the Jews as you thought!

Second, there is no such thing as "7 years" as I explained in my previous post. The one week is not 7 literal years.

Third, the Gospel did not start with Gentiles through Paul. Peter did that earlier.

Most Bible scholars believe the earthly ministry of Christ was about 3 1/2 years.

The earthly ministry of Christ is NOT part of one week of Daniel 9:27. Because according to Scripture, the covenant only can be confirmed AFTER Christ's death. Not Baptism, Not earthly ministry, not "the coming of the Kingdom" to the Jews first prior to the Cross.

There was some period of time between the Day of Pentecost and Paul's conversion.

Based on Galatians 1:14-18, Paul did not begin his ministry to the Gentiles until after a period of about 3 years.

Do the math.

The Gospel was already ministried to the Gentiles before Paul as proved through Peter in Act 10. Gentiles did NOT have to wait for Gospel until Paul or the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. The Gentiles have already received the Holy Spirit BEFORE Paul! The New Covenant Church already started at Pentecost, the Jews first, then the Gentiles and it all occurred before Paul. Paul was only chosen by God to EXPAND the Church to the Gentiles.

 

[Douggg]

Frankly, I do not believe you understand the one week (seven) of Daniel 9:27. You were indoctrinated by speculations by the false prophets.

TS, I am challenging you to find one bible commentator who refers to Deuteronomy 31:9-13 as the basis for confirming the covenant for 7 years. You have a bad habit of throwing out false accusations - instead of just stating your case.