3 1/2 years...

[keras]

Based on what? What new nation?

God's holy people - who? Who are you talking about?

The 'nation' Jesus referred to in Matthew 21:43
The people are every faithful Christian, from every tribe, nation, race and language.

It would be good for you to get an understanding of what God actually wants from His people. He chose Israel at first, they failed and were exiled. But the end time prophesies are plain, they will come back as the true Olive Tree, along with those gentiles grafted in.
They, we Christians, will all be the people God always wanted in the holy land; His witnesses, John 15:27, Isaiah 43:10 and His Light to the world. Matthew 5:14-16, Isaiah 48:8

The situation in the Middle east today, is far from what God's desires. Soon, at the Appointed Day; He will remove all the evil neighbors, incl Judah - Jeremiah 12:14, and only the righteous will go to live there. Isaiah 35:1-10, Revelation 7:9-14

 

[συνείδησις]

One theory, is that the final 3 1/2 years was fulfilled up until the stoning of Steven

I think the final 3-1/2 year period ended when Peter baptized Cornelius, marking the end of Israel's exclusive status with GOD.

 

[Douggg]

The 'nation' Jesus referred to in Matthew 21:43
The people are every faithful Christian, from every tribe, nation, race and language.

It would be good for you to get an understanding of what God actually wants from His people. He chose Israel at first, they failed and were exiled. But the end time prophesies are plain, they will come back as the true Olive Tree, along with those gentiles grafted in.
They, we Christians, will all be the people God always wanted in the holy land; His witnesses, John 15:27, Isaiah 43:10 and His Light to the world. Matthew 5:14-16, Isaiah 48:8

The situation in the Middle east today, is far from what God's desires. Soon, at the Appointed Day; He will remove all the evil neighbors, incl Judah - Jeremiah 12:14, and only the righteous will go to live there. Isaiah 35:1-10, Revelation 7:9-14

So in your eschatology, you are going to have the Christians - the new nation of Israel to be establish over there, that's going to replace the current Israeli's that God is going to remove in your view - overrun by the beast ? The Chuch is going to be overrun by the beast?

 

[TribulationSigns]

So in your eschatology, you are going to have the Christians - the new nation of Israel to be establish over there, that's going to replace the current Israeli's that God is going to remove in your view - overrun by the beast ? The Chuch is going to be overrun by the beast?

Silly.

The church is a physical representation of God's kingdom all over the earth where Elect are! The beast is a body of false prophets and christs that are coming into the church all over the world to replace Christ's truth with their own doctrine - the abomination of desolation. But you are focusing on national Israel in the Middle East expecting a physical war with Russia or whatever for fulfillments when the battle of Armageddon/Gog/Magog is actually spiritual in nature attacking the church all over the world.

That is what the ten virgins parable is about. How they will discern the signs after they hear that Christ is coming. The wise will "see" the abomination of desolation for what it really is, while the foolish are looking for physical fulfillments and buying oil from false prophets/christs who are selling FALSE oil. This is WHY Christ has warned that those "whoso readeth, let him understand", Matthew 24:15. Only those who have oil to be able to see what Prophet Daniel actually talked about. It is not about nation Israel, but New Testament Congregation who is falling away from Faith because of rise of false prophets and christs according to the context of Matthew 24.

 

[Douggg]

Also the 3 ways of giving us this period - 1260 days, 42 months and 3 1/2 years, proves that our years will be 360 days and our months 30 days, by then. This slowing of the earths orbit by 5.24 days a year, will be caused by the next prophesied event; the Sixth Seal. The over 100 prophesies about this terrible Day of cosmic and earthly occurrences, vividly describe how the earth will shudder and shake, and will be moved out of her place. Isaiah 13:13

The Jewish Calendar Year

 

[keras]

So in your eschatology, you are going to have the Christians - the new nation of Israel to be establish over there, that's going to replace the current Israeli's that God is going to remove in your view - overrun by the beast ? The Chuch is going to be overrun by the beast?

God is His great Plan, is going to have His faithful people, now every Christian from every tribe, race, nation and language, live in the holy Land; the new nation of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5
Many prophesies detail the removal of all the apostate, atheist, LGBT, Islamic and whatever the other ungodly people are, who have currently taken over the holy land. Jeremiah 12:14, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Amos 1,+

The citizens of the new nation will live in peace and security as God blesses them and destroys their attackers; the Gog/Magog attack. Joel 2:20
But their [our] leaders make the mistake of agreeing to a peace treaty with the leader of the One World Govt. Isaiah 28:15 and after it is half spent, he will invade them and sit in the Temple, declaring himself to be god. Daniel 9:27, Zechariah 14:1-2, Revelation 13:7
Half of the people of Beulah will be taken to a place of safety, Revelation 12:14 - those who refused this treaty, Daniel 11:32 The other half must remain. Revelation 12:17
3 1/2 years later Jesus will Return and gather all who kept strong in their faith during all that must happen from now until that glorious Day.

 

[keras]

The Jewish Calendar Year

The Jewish year has to add an extra month every so often. Their date; 5777 since Adam, is wrong and they know it.
So Douggg, Bible prophecy tell us that the earth will be moved from her place. Isaiah 13:13 In your opinion this shaking and shifting won't alter the calendar?

 

[Douggg]

But their [our] leaders make the mistake of agreeing to a peace treaty with the leader of the One World Govt.

Keras, you have the current Israeli's removed from the land of Israel and replaced with Christians from around the world into a new nation called Beulah.

Why will they, the new Beulah nation be in need for a peace treaty ? Who is the leader of Beulah? Ezekiel 37 indicates Jesus will be the king of Israel (David my servant, code name for the messiah, Jesus)

 

[Douggg]

The Jewish year has to add an extra month every so often. Their date; 5777 since Adam, is wrong and they know it.
So Douggg, Bible prophecy tell us that the earth will be moved from her place. Isaiah 13:13 In your opinion this shaking and shifting won't alter the calendar?

No, because any variation big enough to alter the calendar from the current orbit and rotation pattern would make the earth uninhabitable for humans, and life in general. It would cause temperature shifts out of tolerable range for human, and the growth of plants.

 

[keras]

No, because any variation big enough to alter the calendar from the current orbit and rotation pattern would make the earth uninhabitable for humans, and life in general. It would cause temperature shifts out of tolerable range for human, and the growth of plants.

According to many ancient documents and oral histories; the earth did have a 360 day year, until the close bypass of a the comet Typhon, or Titan, circa 1500 BC.
It slowed our orbit and it seems from the Bible prophesies that this forthcoming strike by a massive CME sun explosion, will speed it up again. This won't affect the day length or seasons, etc.
It will solve the mystery of the conflicting time periods prophesied in Daniel and Rev.

 

[Douggg]

It will solve the mystery of the conflicting time periods prophesied in Daniel and Rev.

There is no conflict. It is that you don't understand the prophecies. The problem is not with the text.

In Revelation11:2 - 42 months. In the very next verse i- 1260 days. You are not understanding why the difference/

 

[keras]

Keras, you have the current Israeli's removed from the land of Israel and replaced with Christians from around the world into a new nation called Beulah.

Why will they, the new Beulah nation be in need for a peace treaty ? Who is the leader of Beulah? Ezekiel 37 indicates Jesus will be the king of Israel (David my servant, code name for the messiah, Jesus)[/QUOTE

Jesus will become King of the World when He Returns. But that doesn't happen until all that is prophesied before that glorious event, takes place.
We have all of Ezekiel 40 to 48, where Jesus in not present yet. We have two plain prophesies saying how the citizens of Beulah will elect their own leader. Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11

The new nation of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5, will occupy all the area God gave to Abraham. From the Nile to the Euphrates.
Reading Isaiah 66:7-14, makes it clear that the present State of Israel is not the nation referred to here. They were not born in one day; it took from 1898 to 1948 - 50 years for that nation to become established and they have not received God's blessings, here and in many other prophesies.

Beulah won't need a peace treaty with the OWG, but it will seem expedient to their leaders at that time. Which I think will be soon after the Gog/Magog attack and their supernatural wipe out.

 

[keras]

There is no conflict. It is that you don't understand the prophecies. The problem is not with the text.

In Revelation11:2 - 42 months. In the very next verse i- 1260 days. You are not understanding why the difference/

Saying that I don't understand the prophesies is quite unreasonable, as I have now written 755 articles on that subject. I don't claim to know it all, but for you to make statements like that, shows your inability to consider another view.
There is a difference between 1260 days, 42 months and 3 1/2 years in our current calendars.
Don't give me the rubbish of the Jewish or a 'prophetic' calendar.

I note that you still fail in your objective at the bottom of your posts.

 

[seventysevens]

There is a difference between 1260 days, 42 months and 3 1/2 years in our current calendars.
Don't give me the rubbish of the Jewish or a 'prophetic' calendar.

What biblical prophecies can you prove happened based on a 365 day calendar

 

[Douggg]

Beulah won't need a peace treaty with the OWG, but it will seem expedient to their leaders at that time. Which I think will be soon after the Gog/Magog attack and their supernatural wipe out.

At the time, when Gog/Magog is destroyed and Ezekiel 39:4 takes place - who is in the land, the current nation of Israel, or the new nation of Beulah occupied by a different people?

 

[Douggg]

I note that you still fail in your objective at the bottom of your posts.

I don't see my ojective. Could you please copy and paste it for me.

 

[Hiscosmicgoldfish3]

I think the final 3-1/2 year period ended when Peter baptized Cornelius, marking the end of Israel's exclusive status with GOD.

Seems reasonable.

 

[Douggg]

Saying that I don't understand the prophesies is quite unreasonable, as I have now written 755 articles on that subject. I don't claim to know it all, but for you to make statements like that, shows your inability to consider another view.

Keras, I am only going by what you say at this site.

There is a difference between 1260 days, 42 months and 3 1/2 years in our current calendars.

There is no 3 1/2 years stated in end times bible prophecies.

Don't give me the rubbish of the Jewish or a 'prophetic' calendar.

We don't even use the exact orbit around the sun days in our calendar. We have leap year every four years. The Jews have a different system.

 

[Hiscosmicgoldfish3]

I think there will be a 3 1/2 years tribulation. And the church will escape to the wilderness for 3 1/2 years.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels.

 

[Inkfingers]

There is no 3 1/2 years stated in end times bible prophecies.

This is an interesting point.

Revelation 12:6 explicitly mentions 1260 days.

3.5 years is 1278 days by our calendar.