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mjwhite,
I am sorry if my post seemed to be mainly aimed at you. It was not. I also apologize for the irritation that I wrote it with. I still believe that basically, your questions have been answered. Also, that what is being taught by Hobie is not really very different if any difference at all in what you say.
What I'm seeing is that Hobie says it, and you hear it differnetly and then you say what you believe, not really saying anything different from what you just said you opposed.
In my estimation God does not have faith in Himself because He is Faith. Faith as we understand it is to have a belief in something so strong that it will do what we trust it to do. Such as we have faith in God to forgive us our sins when we confess them to Him.
Having the faith of God would go farther than that . . .believing not only that my sins are forgiven but knowing and speaking like I'm a totally different person this moment than I was the moment before. Look up 2 Cor 5:17.
Think about it. How many people really have the faith of God in that scripture? Very few. They know they're forgiven but yet they still talk about all the things they're in bondage too. They still talk about how sick they are, how broke they are, how much the devil is gettin' the best of them. . .They are not exercising the faith of God in their words or their actions. Some may try real hard but it has not become a scripure that they fully even have their own faith in, much less God's.
God does not trust that what He speaks comes in to existence. He knows that whatever He speaks comes in to existence. This is the kind of faith I believe that is being referred to as "the faith of God". If we know that what we need is God's will then to have the faith of God would be to speak it into existence.
I'm not saying it will happen immediately. It may take 10 years. But the faith of God will bring it.
I am sorry if my post seemed to be mainly aimed at you. It was not. I also apologize for the irritation that I wrote it with. I still believe that basically, your questions have been answered. Also, that what is being taught by Hobie is not really very different if any difference at all in what you say.
What I'm seeing is that Hobie says it, and you hear it differnetly and then you say what you believe, not really saying anything different from what you just said you opposed.
In my estimation God does not have faith in Himself because He is Faith. Faith as we understand it is to have a belief in something so strong that it will do what we trust it to do. Such as we have faith in God to forgive us our sins when we confess them to Him.
Having the faith of God would go farther than that . . .believing not only that my sins are forgiven but knowing and speaking like I'm a totally different person this moment than I was the moment before. Look up 2 Cor 5:17.
Think about it. How many people really have the faith of God in that scripture? Very few. They know they're forgiven but yet they still talk about all the things they're in bondage too. They still talk about how sick they are, how broke they are, how much the devil is gettin' the best of them. . .They are not exercising the faith of God in their words or their actions. Some may try real hard but it has not become a scripure that they fully even have their own faith in, much less God's.
God does not trust that what He speaks comes in to existence. He knows that whatever He speaks comes in to existence. This is the kind of faith I believe that is being referred to as "the faith of God". If we know that what we need is God's will then to have the faith of God would be to speak it into existence.
I'm not saying it will happen immediately. It may take 10 years. But the faith of God will bring it.
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