2025 predictions thread

[keras]

I guess I'm not crazy for " predicting " nuclear war

Good for you, as there will be no war, the Lord will destroy them all. Ezekiel 7:14, Revelation 6:12-17, +
God has also told us His plans before they happen.

 

[tailgator]

Good for you, as there will be no war, the Lord will destroy them all. Ezekiel 7:14, Revelation 6:12-17, +
God has also told us His plans before they happen.

You think nation will rise up against nation and cause great earthquakes,pestilence and great fearful signs in the heavens with their pocket knives ,?


Luke 21
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

 

[keras]

You think nation will rise up against nation and cause great earthquakes,pestilence and great fearful signs in the heavens with their pocket knives ,?


Luke 21
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Happening now.
The 'birth pangs' of the coming Kingdom. But the real testing time is still to come and the Lord will send His wrath and punishment as Revelation 6:12 to Rev 19:11 describes.

 

[tailgator]

Happening now.
The 'birth pangs' of the coming Kingdom. But the real testing time is still to come and the Lord will send His wrath and punishment as Revelation 6:12 to Rev 19:11 describes.

You believe there are fearful sights and great signs in the heavens now caused by nation rising against nation?



Luke 21
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.


Are people having heart attacks because of these fearful signs in the heavens like Jesus says?


25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

 

[tailgator]

Non existent in people who ignore or gloss over the sun as being the means the Lord will change the world, to a similar degree as it was in the days of Noah.
Like most, you have no idea of the extent of the effects of a huge CME. And that is how God wants it to be.

Also, the use of bold type, denotes a need to emphasise a shaky premise, in the fond hope of acceptance. Doesn't work!

The Lord does not place the abomination that causes desolation causing distress with perplexity.

The use of bold type is used in hopes you might see your error.

Great tribulation = distress with perplexity.
This is common sense Keras.Try it sometime.


Mathew 24
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

The end as described by Jesus​

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand).

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.



It's not the sun destroying flesh Keras.
It's the abomination that causes desolation(uninhabited,waste,ruin).

 

[keras]

Jesus does not come 7 years after the great tribulation.

Never said He did.
But He will Return at least 7 years, probably about ten years, after the Day of the Lords fiery wrath, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster. To think otherwise, is to scramble Revelation.

I highlighted your errors as I have time and time again. The problem is you can't learn from your mistakes.You are to proud to admit fault and see not your folly.

I and many others have shown your mistaken and confusing theology, but you seem unable to change. The trouble with delusions, is the deluded person cannot believe they can be deceived. Jesus said: Many will be deceived........

thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.

We know when the Book of Life is opened; - AFTER the Millennium. Rev 20:11-15

 

[keras]

You look at it and think,where can I add ten years to the 6th seal

There has to be at least 10 years AFTER the Sixth Seal, to fit in what must happen before Jesus Returns. Just the assembling of the armies at Armageddon might take years.

The great multitude that John sees in Rev 7:9, is on earth, in the holy Land. God can and will again allow His Throne to be seen by earth people.

 

[tailgator]

There has to be at least 10 years AFTER the Sixth Seal, to fit in what must happen before Jesus Returns. Just the assembling of the armies at Armageddon might take years.

The great multitude that John sees in Rev 7:9, is on earth, in the holy Land. God can and will again allow His Throne to be seen by earth people.

The great multitude is with Jesus in the holy land.
That is where the saints are gathered to at his coming.
The great multitude are saved out of the great tribulation caused by the abomination of desolation in revelation 6(sixth seal event)

The great tribulation. Is the 6th seal event and the great multitude is saved out of it and stand before Jesus .

This is the sixth seal​

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Revelation 7​

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;​

There is no ten years between the sixth seal being opened and the sixth seal being opened.They are standing before Jesus in Jerusalem.​

 

[tailgator]

The great multitude that John sees in Rev 7:9, is on earth, in the holy Land. God can and will again allow His Throne to be seen by earth people.

Like you just said,the great multitude is in the holy land.They arrive in Jerusalem with the Lord .

Zechariah 14
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and
the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

 

[tailgator]

The great multitude seen in revelation 7:9 at the sixth seal event standing before the Lamb are them who are set at his right hand.The goats are cast into the fire in verse 41 below.

Mathew 25
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

[keras]

The great multitude seen in revelation 7:9 at the sixth seal event standing before the Lamb are them who are set at his right hand.The goats are cast into the fire in verse 41 below.

Those people are gathered into the holy Land soon after the Sixth Seal event, years before Jesus Returns and separates the nations.
They are the faithful Christian peoples, from every tribe, race ,nation and language. They are there when the Anti-Christ beast conquers them. Daniel 7:25, Rev 13:7
Half of them will go to a place of safety, Rev 12:14, and the rest must remain. Rev 12:17 Also Prophesied in Zechariah 14:1-2

 

[tailgator]

Those people are gathered into the holy Land soon after the Sixth Seal event, years before Jesus Returns and separates the nations.
They are the faithful Christian peoples, from every tribe, race ,nation and language. They are there when the Anti-Christ beast conquers them. Daniel 7:25, Rev 13:7
Half of them will go to a place of safety, Rev 12:14, and the rest must remain. Rev 12:17 Also Prophesied in Zechariah 14:1-2

False.
Jesus sends forth his angels to gather his people to him in the holy land where they stand before him.
You say the lamb of God is not there yet the very word says they ard standing before him.


The angels are there with the great multitude standing round about the throne which the great multitude stands before .


Revelation 7
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,



You prophecy that they do not stand before the lamb for another 10 years while the word of God says they are standing before the he lamb after the 6th seal is opened.They are delivered out of great tribulation but you prophecy that they are not saved for another 10 years.

 

[keras]

You prophecy that they do not stand before the lamb for another 10 years while the word of God says they are standing before the he lamb after the 6th seal is opened.

The Lord Jesus will be revealed to His own people BEFORE the Glorious Return. - 2 Thess 1:10 and Rev14:1, as a Spiritual being, not physically as yet. Remember; He said that He would be with us always. Matthew 28:20

My point is - there is no rapture to heaven for anyone, all the Prophesies happen on earth.

 

[tailgator]

The Lord Jesus will be revealed to His own people BEFORE the Glorious Return. - 2 Thess 1:10 and Rev14:1, as a Spiritual being, not physically as yet. Remember; He said that He would be with us always. Matthew 28:20

My point is - there is no rapture to heaven for anyone, all the Prophesies happen on earth.

The great multitude is standing before the lamb of God.


"before him shall be gathered all nations:"


Mathew 25
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

[tailgator]

The Lord Jesus will be revealed to His own people BEFORE the Glorious Return. - 2 Thess 1:10 and Rev14:1, as a Spiritual being, not physically as yet. Remember; He said that He would be with us always. Matthew 28:20

My point is - there is no rapture to heaven for anyone, all the Prophesies happen on earth.

You say they have been gathered but not before the Lamb.Yet revelation says they are standing before the lamb as Jesus prophecied.

Mathew 25
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

 

[Jipsah]

This argument sounds a lot like the hunters arguing about the tracks they found in the forest. Hunter A declared that they were unarguably bear tracks, and hunter B said that was ridiculous, as even the least woodcrafty city boy could tell they were moose tracks. The argument grew so heated that neither of the mighty hunters noticed the whistle until it was too late to escape being run over by the train.

 

[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread is closed for review and clean up.


EDIT: This thread had a clean up because of all the flaming. It is ridiculous.
IF the sentences you post start with "You" and go on to be about the other member, it is likely to be seen as flaming. Comments like "you show your ignorance when" or "You can't....."
or "you lack...." and phrases like that, are flaming.

Knock it off. I am personally ready to give some vacations from the site if this starts up again. It would be a Christmas present to our volunteer staff.
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[johansen]

Yes; Zechariah 5:1-11 describes a nuke tipped missile.
But it, [they] will be destroyed on the ground by a massive Electromagnetic pulse, Psalms 7:12-16, Joel 3:4, +

A nuke explosion does not cause these effects.
The Sixth Seal will be a worldwide disaster, Jeremiah 25:33 A nuke war in the Northern Hemisphere, would not directly affect the Southern Hemisphere.
Isaiah 30:26-28 & 30 proves that the Lord will use the sun to literally fulfil His vengeance and wrath.

Thr bible concerns the middle east, as that was all they knew about.

 

[keras]

Thr bible concerns the middle east, as that was all they knew about.

I did a Bible search for the word 'world'. There was 238 results.

In ancient times, the Biblical world was just the ME, as communications were nothing like what we have today.

 

[tailgator]

Thr bible concerns the middle east, as that was all they knew about.

That is correct.
99 percent of scripture is about the middle east.

And when the abomination that causes desolation is used by the armed forces of the north,there will be great tribulation like the world has never seen .

Egypt for example shall lay uninhabited for 40 years.After 40 years are passed,people will start to slowly move to Egypt from other African countries such as Ethiopia that are not desolated

Ezekiel 29

11 No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.

12 And I will make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate, and her cities among the cities that are laid waste shall be desolate forty years: and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries.

13 Yet thus saith the Lord God; At the end of forty years will I gather the Egyptians from the people whither they were scattered:

14 And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return into the land of Pathros, into the land of their habitation; and they shall be there a base kingdom.




The desolation of Egypt takes place during the great tribulation at the time of the end in revelation 6.and Daniel 11.

Daniel 11

42 He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape.
43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites[e] in submission.
44 But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many